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skiwesser 11-22-2005 03:36 AM

Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
Okay, stock block .030 overbore, new eagle rods, forged K.B. pistons, Trick Flow #1 Cam (221/225 dur. @.050,.499/.510 lift), AFR 165's, Typhoon intake (port matched to heads),73mm C&L meter, 24# injectors, 65mm TB, 1 3/4 longtubes w/3 chamber F.M. cat-back. T-5 in good shape for now, will a tremec bolt up to a stock bellhousing?

I'm hoping for 350-360??
Where should I start with fuel pressure and timing (93 octane ofcourse)
Once it is broken in I'll be spraying it with 100-150 shot :D
What spark plugs should I use? AFR says Autolite 3924, starting range?

Any input welcome and appreciated.
Thanks
Wes

~The Jester~ 11-22-2005 08:05 AM

Re: Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
My desktop dyno "guessed" 430hp at the flywheel. Need more info, such as compression ratio? I have to look up the exact specs on that cam later too.

Falcons Talon 11-22-2005 08:13 AM

Re: Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
Wow. I would guess about 310 to the wheels.

Here's why.

I pulled 325 rwhp w/ this combo

I have a 351 +.060 over
AFR 185s
GT40 intakes (I know, but I like the look)
65 mm tb (already upgraded to 75 mm)
1 3/4 LT's
73 c&l meter
87 octane at 12* timing (now at 17* w/93 octane)
30 lb injectors

Dark_5.0 11-22-2005 01:18 PM

Re: Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
295-305 RWHP

My car made 301RWHP and 330RWTQ

skiwesser 11-22-2005 07:48 PM

Re: Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
Heads are 58cc, pistons are flattops (2-4cc eyebrows I think, I'll have to check to be sure all stuff still at mach. shop), fel-pro 1011-2 gaskets .049 compressed I believe.

Unit 5302 11-22-2005 08:32 PM

Re: Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
I think that'll put you around 10.25:1 CR.

Stock combustion chambers are 64cc and the pistons are 5.5cc relief. Add in the fact you're running a 306 instead of a 302, and it puts you up there by pure estimation.

Hozer 88GTConv 11-22-2005 10:34 PM

Re: Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
I started w/ 40 psi and set the timing at 18 degrees for a total advance of 34.
MSD box/ignition might help you get a couple more hp, but I agree with the 300-305 rwhp estimate. Especially if you keep the timing down.

good luck...

skiwesser 11-22-2005 10:35 PM

Re: Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
Here is info on pistons:
Piston Style: Flat
Compression Distance (in): 1.608
Dish Volume (cc): 4.80
Valve Reliefs: Two
Does that mean 4.80cc X 2?

Compression Distance (in): 1.608 Does this number come in to play here?
I want to know pretty close to my comp. ratio and have no idea how to figure,probably couldn't with a formula!!
Thanks guys!!
P.S. I have a crane Hi-6 and blaster coil.

~The Jester~ 11-23-2005 08:50 AM

Re: Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
Depending on who's formula you use, I came up with everywhere from 9.06:1, 10.18:1, and 10.83:1 So like said before 10.25:1 is a good place to figure it at.

That's STATIC compression ratio too, don't forget that. Dynamic is gonna be a bit different.

~The Jester~ 11-23-2005 09:04 AM

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OK Ski, found the specs I needed, dynamic compression is about 10:01:1 with that cam, so you're still in GOOD pump gas territory.

I'm not familiar with throttle bodie sizes and such, or that intake. I "guessed" the TB flow at 660 CFM, and that intake as a single plane. If I'm wrong, lemme know.

Here's what Desktop Dyno had to say:

skiwesser 11-23-2005 10:13 PM

Re: Let's play guess my new motor's horsepower!!
 
Cool, Thanks Jester but according to the sources I have a 65mm TB flows 616cfm so numbers will be down a little, but I think I've got the combo I wanted and I feel good about the cam,intake and heads working well together??
I just need to nail down a sound baseline on fuel pressure And timing.

The aluminum heads allow you to run a bit more timing than iron heads??


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