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fordman/van-lsc 07-10-2009 12:28 PM

Rebuild help on 1993 E150 5.8L/E40d trans
 
I've got 1993 E150 Hi-top van, 5.8L non-roller w/E40D. runs great but gaskets leak, rear main seal (1 pc), oil pan leak, timing cover. When I pull the 5.8 out i want to rebuild it to make about 400 HP versus rebuild it to the stock 200 hp. I want to keep it cheap and simple, i'm not trying to pull the front wheels off the ground. Also what will I have to do to the E40D tranny for this project.

goodyear1984 07-24-2009 07:22 PM

Re: Rebuild help on 1993 E150 5.8L/E40d trans
 
400 hp aint cheep.ill give u a small list to start with
10.5 to 1 pistons
aftermarket heads,afr 185,world 200,patriot 185
camshaft
roller rockers
edlebrock rpm intake
injectors
headers

the killer is the heads and intake will run u over 2 grand.the stock stuff just wont breath.the heads on that motor are on mustangs and there even too small for that.
as far as the tranny u would prolly want some better clutches hardend imput and mabey a diff planatary.

u can go about this 10 diff ways.u really gotta know what ur gonna do with it,like are u gonna toe thing or just race it around town

fordman/van-lsc 08-02-2009 11:40 AM

Re: Rebuild help on 1993 E150 5.8L/E40d trans
 
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Originally Posted by fordman/van-lsc (Post 335175)
I've got 1993 E150 Hi-top van, 5.8L non-roller w/E40D. runs great but gaskets leak, rear main seal (1 pc), oil pan leak, timing cover. When I pull the 5.8 out i want to rebuild it to make about 400 HP versus rebuild it to the stock 200 hp. I want to keep it cheap and simple, i'm not trying to pull the front wheels off the ground. Also what will I have to do to the E40D tranny for this project.

Thanks for the info goodyear1984 I think I'll just upgrade the camshaft and heads (edelbrock/trickflow/afr/compcam), something that will give me part off what I'm looking for with the limits of fitting it into the van dog house. My next project is to restore my 1988 lsc 5.0HO AOD tranny all stock with some real goodies without the limits of my van.:)

goodyear1984 08-07-2009 09:14 PM

Re: Rebuild help on 1993 E150 5.8L/E40d trans
 
afrheads ,cam, intake,injectors,prolly around 350 hp if it runs right

rustholio 08-28-2009 08:36 AM

Re: Rebuild help on 1993 E150 5.8L/E40d trans
 
The E4OD had some upgrades in 1996 so you'll want to incorporate those. The main one I believe is an internal support of the rotating parts. It's a heavy trans but with good cooling, updates, and reprogramming, it will work well. You'll need a bit higher stall converter to handle a cam that will support your stated power goal.

I think you can make real good torque with AFR 185s and a mild cam. It will actually feel much better to drive than a stock-stroke 351w that actually does make an honest 400 hp. I do think 9.5:1 compression ratio is a better target as well. A mild higher stall converter is still going to help get that barn moving.

fordman/van-lsc 08-29-2009 11:06 AM

Re: Rebuild help on 1993 E150 5.8L/E40d trans
 
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Originally Posted by rustholio (Post 335310)
The E4OD had some upgrades in 1996 so you'll want to incorporate those. The main one I believe is an internal support of the rotating parts. It's a heavy trans but with good cooling, updates, and reprogramming, it will work well. You'll need a bit higher stall converter to handle a cam that will support your stated power goal.

I think you can make real good torque with AFR 185s and a mild cam. It will actually feel much better to drive than a stock-stroke 351w that actually does make an honest 400 hp. I do think 9.5:1 compression ratio is a better target as well. A mild higher stall converter is still going to help get that barn moving.

:)Thanks rustolio for the information you've stated. I believe this is
is how I'm going to rebuild both engine and tranny

fordman/van-lsc 09-04-2009 07:03 PM

Re: Rebuild help on 1993 E150 5.8L/E40d trans
 
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Originally Posted by fordman/van-lsc (Post 335313)
:)Thanks rustolio for the information you've stated. I believe this is
is how I'm going to rebuild both engine and tranny

I checked into the AFR 185 Heads and I like them, what combustion chamber size should I go with for the 400HP? Thinking of a Edelbrock Top end-kit for a 351W, that way it's already matched (cam and heads) and I need to keep the emmissions junk on it (may have to move to one of those strict states and don't want inspection problems). Looking at companies that make cams and heads.

fordman/van-lsc 10-05-2009 03:17 PM

Re: Rebuild help on 1993 E150 5.8L/E40d trans
 
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Originally Posted by fordman/van-lsc (Post 335320)
I checked into the AFR 185 Heads and I like them, what combustion chamber size should I go with for the 400HP? Thinking of a Edelbrock Top end-kit for a 351W, that way it's already matched (cam and heads) and I need to keep the emmissions junk on it (may have to move to one of those strict states and don't want inspection problems). Looking at companies that make cams and heads.


I pulled my 5.8L out last week and found things I didn't expect. It has 1993 Cobra GT40 F3ZEE AA Iron Heads complete with aluminum roller rockers and a Edelbrock performer plus #3782 camshaft (hyd flat Tap). The block and pistons and botom end is all oem stock.
Any suggestions now? Port/polish the heads? Freshen up the block, re-ring it with new gasket and or still put heads and or cam in it?
How many horses do you think this was making?

goodyear1984 11-01-2009 12:11 PM

Re: Rebuild help on 1993 E150 5.8L/E40d trans
 
you can port match and do some bowl work.id personally go with afr 185 u would get alot more out of it.and get nice edelbrock intake and a cam that matchs,you will get 10 diff answers on what cam to use and belive be when i tell u its worth every penny to spend 280-300 on a custom cam from a shop that makes them like erson,cuz thats all they do and the cam is a big part of making power and if the cam dont match everything else it wont run to the fullest


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