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Originally posted by RevinRx7
Like i tried to say before i didn't mean to put down anyone's car i just wanted to throw in my two cents. while yes our cars are not the best car in the world no, but I'm not trying to win anything in the mustang forum because that would be stupid to think that. I just don't want you guys thinking that any rx-7 you pull up to is gonna lose without a strong fight. And by the way about Paluka21's coments here. hmm how much did you pay for your car? and tell me when has mazda stopped producing the rotary engine? And oops i forgot what car is coming in 2003??? OHHHH! The RX-8 which has solved the emissions problems and has about ohh 245 hp naturally aspirated. while i will admit this engine has low torgue it will have a red line double yours. If i had a triple rotor thrown in my car its still a little under a 2liter engine that has a hell of a lot more torque. Mazda was the long time winner at Le Mans too with its quad rotor.
And acorrding to the august issue of TURBO Magazine, yes the RX-7 is the QUICKEST PRO STREET RACER.
My last point before i rationalize is MOST american companies researched the rotary engine in thought of replacing the piston engine for example GM had plans for a quad rotor corvette.
Sorry about venting but i had to get my points across to paluka.
the last thing i have to say is
Any car that you put money into can be fast. and there is always someone out there who is faster than you.
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I think you should really take the time to read my first post more carefully, THEN post your remarks. IF you read my first post carefully, I did not state ALL rotary motors, I just said the RX7 wankle car is not brought into the U.S anymore, mainly because of inreliability, and overpriced japanese expectations. That could be my opinion, but it seems logical why there aren't more rotary motors, and alot of piston motors. And dont try to tell me the rotary motor is new cause its not, it has been in existence since when? before WWII? You can use all the excuses in the world, but they still don't seem feasable. What happened to the supra? same thing that happened w/ the RX7. You are not talking to an ignorant car enthusiast here, I may not know everything about my competition, however I do know enough.
Rx8 eh? who really cares about where it redlines...LMAO
is that supossed to make it a supercar or something? It NEEDS to redline that high to make any kind of power, and I DOUBT seriously it doubles my redline..lol. Maybe YOU should do some more reasearch on piston motors to know what your dealing with there bud. For example the DOHC cobra 4.6 motor redlines at 7K, so does that mean that this RX8's redline is at 14K? And that makes it a faster, better car? ( sorry but this is how you are coming across )
Ok, you want to compare pricing? how much do you really think I paid for my car back in 1995? Man I guess you think its more than your rx7 eh? Sticker price was $24.5, and I have a total of around $31K in the car. Supecharger, intercooler, aluminum heads, cam, exhaust, gears. Heck not too bad, I and I am pretty darn close to 500rwhp with this little bit of mods. And don't tell me for a second that the RX7 is cheaply modified, cause its not. Then again, most cars arent, but you see my point.
Yeah yeah, you could have a 3 rotor under your hood and make this amount of torque..but know what YOU DONT! So, dont refer to it if you don't have it. And if your trying to compare the 1.3L engine to a 5.0L engine, cmon I already told you " compare apples to apples not apples to oranges." A rotary motor at 1.3L cannot be compared to a 5.0, or 4.6, or even a 5.7L motor with pistons. They are two different concepts as I'm sure you know and need to be weighed differently, what scale are they weighed on, who knows? But that 1.3L bogus **** doesn't really fly in my opinion. They also come with twin turbos that make up a HUGE difference, and weight an ungodly 2800lbs..so we can throw in all the factors, but I dont really care to.
And yes your TURBO magazine might tell you one thing, but I'm not a magazine racer if you know what I mean. I guess this pro circuit or whatever your referring to must be compact cars or something, Im not real familiar with it, and yes I admit that I am not. Just seems odd that a lighter focus w/ a mustang motor can only muster a 7.3, when heavier larger cars with the same motor are cracking down mid 6's or so @ well over 200mph.
And yes I remember hearing about the Vette trying to get the rotary motor, either way it didnt, so thats not really a logical argument either. hell, for all of this, I can say that , "well, the 4.6L cobra could have gotten the 5.4L supercharged motor that cranks out over 550hp" but it didnt, so Im not gonna try to use this point, kinda pointless. BTW why didn't chevy use the rotary motor? did they have trouble getting the rights to it? I thought I remembered hearing thats what it was, but who knows?
All in all, you can still come over here in your passive aggressive attitude and say your not trying to put down a mustang, or say your not trying to make an RX7 look better, cause im my opinion, and most others they are not. If we wanted an Rx7, or really wanted to know "everything" about them we would either own one instead of our mustang ( well those of us who would throw down the cash to buy a used 93- that are still overpriced ) or we could go out and do research on them ourselves. Ive had the luxury of hearing about these cars for the last few years and my friends ranted and ravved about them. Guess what, The three guys who've owned the 3rd gens, no longer do! Two of the threes motors grenaded at low milage. I beleive the apex seal went in one of the motors possibly throwing chunks of metal into the turbos, so their prolly shot, the other guy's turbos went out early and had to have a replacement motor put in the car before this even happened. he sold it cause of too many repairs and just inconvenience. The other guy blew his motor up as well, and had the most modifications out of the three.
So, after me saying this, it may help to just save your breath on something more important than this topic, because no matter what you say there is always something that I or we can come back with, cause we are comparing oranges to apples, but this comparison does have a few things is common.
later
Dan
95 rio red cobra #2021