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Old 04-09-2002, 07:39 PM   #22
Unit 5302
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You know, as I read on and on, most of what I saw was kinda off topic. Not that I would never go off topic on a subject, but there sure has been a lot of stating the same thing over, and over.

Actually, my biggest problem as I read this wasn't opinions, it was the sheer lack of respect to thoroughly READ what was posted before going off into a tizzy. This would apply to silver_pilate, and Ponycar_302. Had you bothered to adaquately READ what was written, you would have noticed what Mustangbelle306 wrote into her second post. Guess what it was? Resources. That tells me right there that you didn't read what was said, and you shouldn't be commenting on anything posted. You stepped into a heated debate without all the information, and with a great deal of class, she didn't point that out and rip you a new one like I'm doing right now. If you're going to disagree, please try to at least read the entire post of the person you're disagreeing with.

I would agree the EPA is populated with Eco-Nazi's, and they really do hate the automobile. Most of them see the numbers they want, use a flawed method of calculating data, and release a finding that is totally false.

Anybody who would argue a point made about internal combustion engines being machines that pollute is a wack job. Anybody who would argue they are the end of mankind, is an equal wack job. Catalytic converters are kinda unnecessary if you know much about today's engines. They run VERY clean, which leaves very little for the cats to do. Cats correct problems that haven't much existed since the inception of multiport fuel injection engines. As time has gone on, cars have become FAR more fuel efficient, and way cleaner. The amount of unburned fuel in the exhaust is pretty minimal. Most well tuned cars would probably pass inspection without any cats at all. I laugh at the fact most emissions control devices are meant to perform at engine idle, where the car spends little of it's time. I guess I'm a little off topic now, on the technical issues surrounding pollution and cars altogether.

Anyway. I think I can say this with certainty. Mr 5 0 can usually fend for himself just fine, and last I checked, he's quite good at it. While you "stealing his thunder" isn't really annoying to me, the constant leg humping you do on all of his posts is rather old, silver_pilate. If you have an opinion, feel free to state it, but restating what Mr 5 0 thinks is right, I agree with Mr 5 0, Mr 5 0 is my hero, I love Mr 5 0 makes me wonder if you have a poster of his avatar over your bed that you consider to be your prized possession.

Back to the real topic. Good paper. I agree with data and ideas being bent to reflect a certain point of view, especially when they come from a government.
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