[moc]

DRASTiK , i no what you are saying BUT .. when I got them today ,i wired tie them down and took a high speed buffing wheel to them ... And shined them up with Mothers aluminum polish . that i did the pictures did not give them justice ... cause they are shinney like a mirror .. and thats me . But when you get them they are a nice satin finish ( I should have left them be) cause now thats something else that I have to clean . they are thick and nice .. All you have to do is Hit them with 700 sand paper .prime them with a Zinc cromate type primer .then hit them with black.. but i'll tellya they do look nice .. and my car is black and I would not paint them cause they look so good when I open the door... More in the tradition of cars built a long time ago