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Old 04-24-2002, 09:05 AM   #37
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Originally posted by ultraflo

remember my saying that I am a complete idiot?

You're forcing us to remember.

I apologize that I am unable to make a convincing argument, or one that you are unable to relate to or understand for that matter.

Apology accepted. No problem.

I am simply stating my opinion... Sometimes (most of the time actually) people get upset when I voice my opinion on various issues.

Ever consider that it may because it's based on false assumptions and mostly wrong?

Apparently I was able to get your attention (which elicited an emotional response, hence your reply to my post) or you would not have given me the time to respond to my "rant"

I hate to let misguided comments and opinions go unanswered. Emotion was not a factor in my replies, facts were.

I am not "mad" at you Mr 5.0, I respect your opinion...

Never claimed you were mad about anything and thanks for the compliment.

I must say that I disagree with the current scenario in the automobile industry as a result of a global economy... (where large companies/corporations move over-seas because of cheap labor and less taxation). Obviously this scenario relates to other industries as well (duh).

The bulk of the profits come back to America and the companies still pay taxes on them. UAW jobs are lost but with automation, not as many as you would think. Cars are not made by hand anymore.

...and I am starting to write the book I claimed that would be pointless and unnecessary! (oops!)
Forgive me if you will...


Yes you are and yes, I will.

Wishful thinking on my part... "buying American" that is...That's all, nothing more!

Fine.

"you can wish in one hand, and poop in the other... and see which one fills up first" ya dig?

I think I saw that 'saying' in a fortune cookie I had last week.

On with your verbal abuse... I guess you won't be slinking away from this one, will you

That's uncalled for. Disagreement and presenting a logical argument is not 'verbal abuse' my friend. I did not engage in name-calling much less character attacks, I simply offered reasons why I thought you were wrong in your assumptions and conclusions. If you wish to debate, you'll need a thicker skin.

As for 'slinking away'; when I'm mistaken in my facts, I admit it and take responsibity for it, with some grace and humor, hopefully. I don't abandon a discussion just because someone else disagrees although I won't tolerate name-calling and hysteria pretending it's logic.

BTW, I'm not that much of a Yankee, more of a redneck hill-billy.
Yippe-ki-yi-yah mo foker! (joking)


O.K.

You guys do remember WW2 happening? Getting bombed by Japanese, and several years later everyone's buying their product, even large corporations, irony... That is what disappoints me! That is my rant.

If that's your 'rant', it's absurd and really just xenophobia masquarading as patriotism.

World War II ended 57 years ago. America was bombed once, we bombed Japan almost into oblivion, which was necessary to defeat a very determined people who had chosen to become our enemy and attack us. That's war. We defeated Japan, the Emperor renounced his 'divinity', the Allies wrote a new constitution for Japan (no military, free elections) and we've been at peace ever since. A testament to the intelligence of both sides, in my opinion.

To drag up a six-decade-old long since settled war as a rationale for boycotting Japanese products is, well, just illogical. If you're really serious about that mindset, you had better get rid of your TV, computer, CD player, Nike's and a ton of other stuff that is 'Made in Japan'.

Sorry, I cannot accept 'World War II', which we won, as a reason to 'buy American' beyond all reason. using that reasoning, we shouldn't trade with England, either. Remember the Revolutionary War?

Your argument would also have to include Germany and all those BMW's and Mercedes and lesser cars we buy from them. Italy is also on the Axis list. There go a lot more products, including Ferrarri's, I guess. Where does it end and what is the point? None that makes much sense. Once a war is won things change as the 'enemy' government that caused the war is always gone; killed in battle, suicide (Hitler) or hung for war crimes (most of the German High Command). We move on from there. You should try it.

'Buying Chinese' is a better example of trading with the enemy and I do have reservations about that - but in a global economy it's very difficult to avoid not buying foreign-made goods - of any type. This is a fact of life. We like those cheap jeans and other products made overseas so they sell, by the millions. The Japanese cars are simply good value, nothing more - or less.

Y'all just misunderstood me...

I think not - but thanks for your contributions. We don't have to agree on everything to be friends and part of the Mustang 'fraternity'.
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