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DJs350H · 05-12-2002, 05:45 PM

Gp001,

I like your car . Your engine setup is somewhat similar to mine too. I know you know more about stangs than I, so I was hoping you could help me bench race a little???? And help me compare the benefits and cons of the T-56 vs. Richmond swap?!

I just went to the D&D Performance website and found all this information for you.

.. T56 5.0-5.8 6-Speed (440+ ft.-lbs)........$1995
(2.97 1st, 2.07 2nd, 1.43 3rd, 1.1 4th, .80 5th, .62 6th)

.. T56 4.6 6-Speed (440+ ft.-lbs)........$2295
(2.97 1st, 2.07 2nd, 1.43 3rd, 1.1 4th, .80 5th, .62 6th)

..Viper Blueprinted T56 5.0-5.8.(550+ ft.-lbs).......$2999
(550 ft.-lbs)(2.66 1st, 1.78 2nd, 1.30 3rd, 1.1 4th, .74 5th, .50 6th)

Darkhorse performance has this on their website. So I guess you could probably buy the bell housing seperately--maybe. I'm not sure if their is any difference between a Viper trans bellhousing though? I've also seen other companies that make bellhousings (I'd have to find the link again), so I am convinced it can be done.

289/302/351 T56 WITH BELL
Price: $2,299.00

R100RT what bell did you use????

Is there any difference between the Viper and your trnamisssion's bell????

I know one of the benefits of the Richmond is that Lakewood makes a scattershield, but I was also wondering if they (Lakewood) could make a custom bellhousing for a T-56??? I know they do it for drag cars.

I've been considering doing a 6-speed swap for a few years now. Gp001, I made a post a few months back on this website that you replied to, and you even replied to a post I put on your website when the forum was open--you got me doubting the T-56.

But what got me worried about the Richmond was the final drive RPMs though! I plan on running some 4.11s or numerically higher. I don't want to have to cruise on the highway like in my 4-speed with the engine revving high. I want great accaleration (actually the best possible--I know I'll never hit ) at the strip, but when I cruise on the highway I want somewhat decent gas mileage--someday I might put in EFI.

I also plan on running some TTII's 17X8" like you, but I don't know the dimensions with tires to plug into a ratio calculator??

Could you tell me what my RPMs will be with TTII's with 45 series like your tires at 65 MPH with .50 overdrive???

with .62 Overdrive??

Does the Richmond have a choice of final drive ratios???

I've been interested in the Viper T-56 since I am building a stroker motor with expected +500-high 400 horespower. I knew about the blueprinted Viper T56 because of Fast Mustang and Fords adds for years now, and they have always had the highest listed torque capacity in the magazine. So that is what got me thinking about the T-56--but I've never seen a listing for the Richmond.

What is the torque handling capability of the Richmond 6-speed???

Power handling is a concern for me because I plan on mini-tubbing for larger street tires (like 345s possibly), and I want to be able to get slicks with serious traction under there for the strip.

It also sounds like the blueprinted Viper T-56 and the Richmond cost about the same???

I saw an internet article about the D&D Viper trans and was impressed.

Just go to:
1. http://www.mustangmonthly.com/index_new.html
2. Select the Car tech link
3. Select Tech articles
4. Then use the pull downs to select
Ford, Mustang, All years, then pess go
5. The article will be under drivetrain
6. Then click on the flag

Tell me what you think????

I havent heard from anyone that has done the swap, but does the T-56 swap REALLY require cutting the floorboards????

R100RT???

The Viper trans has a little different ratios, maybe better for performance????

How do they compare to the Richmond????

Viper
2.66 1st, 1.78 2nd, 1.30 3rd, 1.1 4th, .74 5th, .50 6th
vs.
Richmond??

Thanks
Dan

P.S. Sorry so many questions, I've been trying to get a definitive answer to all these questions for a long time now.

05-12-2002, 05:45 PM	#18
DJs350H Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Ventura, CA, USA Posts: 12	Gp001, I like your car . Your engine setup is somewhat similar to mine too. I know you know more about stangs than I, so I was hoping you could help me bench race a little???? And help me compare the benefits and cons of the T-56 vs. Richmond swap?! I just went to the D&D Performance website and found all this information for you. .. T56 5.0-5.8 6-Speed (440+ ft.-lbs)........$1995 (2.97 1st, 2.07 2nd, 1.43 3rd, 1.1 4th, .80 5th, .62 6th) .. T56 4.6 6-Speed (440+ ft.-lbs)........$2295 (2.97 1st, 2.07 2nd, 1.43 3rd, 1.1 4th, .80 5th, .62 6th) ..Viper Blueprinted T56 5.0-5.8.(550+ ft.-lbs).......$2999 (550 ft.-lbs)(2.66 1st, 1.78 2nd, 1.30 3rd, 1.1 4th, .74 5th, .50 6th) Darkhorse performance has this on their website. So I guess you could probably buy the bell housing seperately--maybe. I'm not sure if their is any difference between a Viper trans bellhousing though? I've also seen other companies that make bellhousings (I'd have to find the link again), so I am convinced it can be done. 289/302/351 T56 WITH BELL Price: $2,299.00 R100RT what bell did you use???? Is there any difference between the Viper and your trnamisssion's bell???? I know one of the benefits of the Richmond is that Lakewood makes a scattershield, but I was also wondering if they (Lakewood) could make a custom bellhousing for a T-56??? I know they do it for drag cars. I've been considering doing a 6-speed swap for a few years now. Gp001, I made a post a few months back on this website that you replied to, and you even replied to a post I put on your website when the forum was open--you got me doubting the T-56. But what got me worried about the Richmond was the final drive RPMs though! I plan on running some 4.11s or numerically higher. I don't want to have to cruise on the highway like in my 4-speed with the engine revving high. I want great accaleration (actually the best possible--I know I'll never hit ) at the strip, but when I cruise on the highway I want somewhat decent gas mileage--someday I might put in EFI. I also plan on running some TTII's 17X8" like you, but I don't know the dimensions with tires to plug into a ratio calculator?? Could you tell me what my RPMs will be with TTII's with 45 series like your tires at 65 MPH with .50 overdrive??? with .62 Overdrive?? Does the Richmond have a choice of final drive ratios??? I've been interested in the Viper T-56 since I am building a stroker motor with expected +500-high 400 horespower. I knew about the blueprinted Viper T56 because of Fast Mustang and Fords adds for years now, and they have always had the highest listed torque capacity in the magazine. So that is what got me thinking about the T-56--but I've never seen a listing for the Richmond. What is the torque handling capability of the Richmond 6-speed??? Power handling is a concern for me because I plan on mini-tubbing for larger street tires (like 345s possibly), and I want to be able to get slicks with serious traction under there for the strip. It also sounds like the blueprinted Viper T-56 and the Richmond cost about the same??? I saw an internet article about the D&D Viper trans and was impressed. Just go to: 1. http://www.mustangmonthly.com/index_new.html 2. Select the Car tech link 3. Select Tech articles 4. Then use the pull downs to select Ford, Mustang, All years, then pess go 5. The article will be under drivetrain 6. Then click on the flag Tell me what you think???? I havent heard from anyone that has done the swap, but does the T-56 swap REALLY require cutting the floorboards???? R100RT??? The Viper trans has a little different ratios, maybe better for performance???? How do they compare to the Richmond???? Viper 2.66 1st, 1.78 2nd, 1.30 3rd, 1.1 4th, .74 5th, .50 6th vs. Richmond?? Thanks Dan P.S. Sorry so many questions, I've been trying to get a definitive answer to all these questions for a long time now.