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Mr 5 0 · 06-25-2002, 03:30 PM

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Jesse Ventura (real name Jim Janos) is an interesting guy, no doubt, but he found out that politics is a tougher game than wrestling.

I won't comment on everything you posted but it was certainly informative regarding MN politics, which are about as left-wing and destructive as CT politics, regardless of who is Governor.

Ventura (he's not giving the name 'back' as Ventura, CA still has theirs) called himself a fiscal conservative and a moderate-to-liberal on social issues. I've heard that before.

What that usually means is they like lower taxes and accountability but issues such as drug use, prostitution and such are not the government's 'business'. That, of course, is straight Libertarian Philosophy 101 and I'm opposed to it, but then, Jesse isn't my Governor.

His views on guns (be responsible) is O.K. and his religious views are really irrelevent, as I see it, although he was a fool for making the statement he did (religion is a crutch for the weak-minded) from a PR sense. If you wish to be a hedonist - as Jesse obviously does, based on excepts from his biography that I've read - fine. If religion gets in the way of what you like to do, ignore it. Do what you want, who cares and who's stopping you or anyone else, Jesse?

It's the atheists, agnostics and whishy-washy types that are always crying about the 'religious right' that annoy me. Christians have an obligation to speak out about what they see as wrong, including government money going for for wasteful, stupid projects, the corruption of our public schools and universities, special rights for homosexuals and other bad policies.

We're about as far from a theocracy as a country will ever get, yet the Venturas carp about the 'fundamentalists telling people what they can do'. That's BS. We elect moderate-to-liberal leaders in this country, not religious demagogues or fundamentalist whackos. That should be obvious, even to Jesse Ventura and so his complaint is somewhat specious.

Instant divorce, abortion-on-demand, gay 'rights' in our face, a 35% white illegmitacy rate (70% for blacks) and other social ills that drag us down clearly are not the result of all that 'fundamentalist' influence, are they? Obviously not.

Liberalism reigns in American politics, for the most part, and cries about the 'religious right' spoiling all the fun are just absurd. Ventura is dead wrong on that one as are others who parrot that line as the facts don't match the charge. Ventura - and folks like him - prefer they never be told anything they choose to do is morally wrong. That's natural but to claim religious people somehow cramp his style is, again, foolish.

Anyway, Ventura promised one term back in '99 (he's probably losing too much money as Governor) so he's just showing some integrity here, a virtue unheard of in most politicians and so, probably unrecognizable to most citizens of Minnesoooota.

He certainly was interesting and will be somewhat missed on the national political scene.

I wish him well.

06-25-2002, 03:30 PM	#9
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Goodbye to Gov. 'The Body' Ventura Unit: Jesse Ventura (real name Jim Janos) is an interesting guy, no doubt, but he found out that politics is a tougher game than wrestling. I won't comment on everything you posted but it was certainly informative regarding MN politics, which are about as left-wing and destructive as CT politics, regardless of who is Governor. Ventura (he's not giving the name 'back' as Ventura, CA still has theirs) called himself a fiscal conservative and a moderate-to-liberal on social issues. I've heard that before. What that usually means is they like lower taxes and accountability but issues such as drug use, prostitution and such are not the government's 'business'. That, of course, is straight Libertarian Philosophy 101 and I'm opposed to it, but then, Jesse isn't my Governor. His views on guns (be responsible) is O.K. and his religious views are really irrelevent, as I see it, although he was a fool for making the statement he did (religion is a crutch for the weak-minded) from a PR sense. If you wish to be a hedonist - as Jesse obviously does, based on excepts from his biography that I've read - fine. If religion gets in the way of what you like to do, ignore it. Do what you want, who cares and who's stopping you or anyone else, Jesse? It's the atheists, agnostics and whishy-washy types that are always crying about the 'religious right' that annoy me. Christians have an obligation to speak out about what they see as wrong, including government money going for for wasteful, stupid projects, the corruption of our public schools and universities, special rights for homosexuals and other bad policies. We're about as far from a theocracy as a country will ever get, yet the Venturas carp about the 'fundamentalists telling people what they can do'. That's BS. We elect moderate-to-liberal leaders in this country, not religious demagogues or fundamentalist whackos. That should be obvious, even to Jesse Ventura and so his complaint is somewhat specious. Instant divorce, abortion-on-demand, gay 'rights' in our face, a 35% white illegmitacy rate (70% for blacks) and other social ills that drag us down clearly are not the result of all that 'fundamentalist' influence, are they? Obviously not. Liberalism reigns in American politics, for the most part, and cries about the 'religious right' spoiling all the fun are just absurd. Ventura is dead wrong on that one as are others who parrot that line as the facts don't match the charge. Ventura - and folks like him - prefer they never be told anything they choose to do is morally wrong. That's natural but to claim religious people somehow cramp his style is, again, foolish. Anyway, Ventura promised one term back in '99 (he's probably losing too much money as Governor) so he's just showing some integrity here, a virtue unheard of in most politicians and so, probably unrecognizable to most citizens of Minnesoooota. He certainly was interesting and will be somewhat missed on the national political scene. I wish him well.