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Mr 5 0 · 07-03-2002, 08:44 AM

Chris

Let's cool off.

No one called you a 'leftie'.

Don't erect strawmen such as claiming you 'never told anyone not to believe' when no one has accused you of doing any such thing. Your point is clear; you don't believe Under God should have been added to the pledge.

Others, including myself, have stated as to why we believe the words are perfectly justified and most Americans agree.

Fiveohboy01 stated what a lot of people feel, that the leftist, socialist agenda cloaked in 'PC' has been slowly squeezing the very mention of God's name in a public place - such as a school - out of existence. Schools are becoming liberal indoctrination centers where you can be taught how great and 'normal' homosexuality is but you can't mention God.

Guess what? A lot of tolerant folks are finally getting aroused enough to express their outrage over this nit-picky legalistic bickering over saying 'God' in a pledge of about 20 seconds length.

The ruling on this is a perfect example of the leftist mindset and Chris - while I know you're far from being a political leftist, when you keep claiming that 'Under God' should never, ever have even been in the Pledge it simply comes off as anti-God and one who doesn't know you in the slightest could assume you must be a 'Godless leftie'

In short; your POV is unpopular and seen by the uninformed as smacking of 'Godless Liberalism'. Sorry, but that's the perception.

It's a volitile issue but no need to namecall.

I have little left to say about it for now. Those who attack me are mostly incoherent anyway so I can ignore their rantings. I appreciate the opportunity to debate the issue with reasonable people but if the thread is going to degenerate into flames, it's going to be closed.

For the most part, I appreciate everyone's comments. Mustangbelle306 has shown great restraint here and I like the fact that she's seen how biting words lose your audience and your credibility. Always something to learn at Mustang Works.

Now, let's attempt a more adult discussion here and not get into name calling and wild charges that benefit no one and for those who don't want to participate, simply leave the thread and don't clutter it up with insults, complaints and accusations that make no sense.

Thanks.

07-03-2002, 08:44 AM	#7
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Whoa! Chris Let's cool off. No one called you a 'leftie'. Don't erect strawmen such as claiming you 'never told anyone not to believe' when no one has accused you of doing any such thing. Your point is clear; you don't believe Under God should have been added to the pledge. Others, including myself, have stated as to why we believe the words are perfectly justified and most Americans agree. Fiveohboy01 stated what a lot of people feel, that the leftist, socialist agenda cloaked in 'PC' has been slowly squeezing the very mention of God's name in a public place - such as a school - out of existence. Schools are becoming liberal indoctrination centers where you can be taught how great and 'normal' homosexuality is but you can't mention God. Guess what? A lot of tolerant folks are finally getting aroused enough to express their outrage over this nit-picky legalistic bickering over saying 'God' in a pledge of about 20 seconds length. The ruling on this is a perfect example of the leftist mindset and Chris - while I know you're far from being a political leftist, when you keep claiming that 'Under God' should never, ever have even been in the Pledge it simply comes off as anti-God and one who doesn't know you in the slightest could assume you must be a 'Godless leftie' In short; your POV is unpopular and seen by the uninformed as smacking of 'Godless Liberalism'. Sorry, but that's the perception. It's a volitile issue but no need to namecall. I have little left to say about it for now. Those who attack me are mostly incoherent anyway so I can ignore their rantings. I appreciate the opportunity to debate the issue with reasonable people but if the thread is going to degenerate into flames, it's going to be closed. For the most part, I appreciate everyone's comments. Mustangbelle306 has shown great restraint here and I like the fact that she's seen how biting words lose your audience and your credibility. Always something to learn at Mustang Works. Now, let's attempt a more adult discussion here and not get into name calling and wild charges that benefit no one and for those who don't want to participate, simply leave the thread and don't clutter it up with insults, complaints and accusations that make no sense. Thanks.