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Unit 5302 · 08-25-2002, 07:14 PM

Okay, you're best suited to answering car questions Chris. Keep out of the computer world until you get a clue.

The Mac is setup to execute processes in less steps than a P4. It's true. Only a P4 executes 3 times as many tasks at once. Plus P4's new trace cache allows it to predict processes even before the commands are given with NO delay. Meaning while the Mac is waiting for the next bit of information, the P4 has a constant data stream and is saving 1-2 processes each cycle. Furthermore, since P4 has an insanely high clock speed, it processes each cycle faster than the G4.

You seriously need to read about some of this stuff before you run your mouth off.

I know you don't play games... with anybody, because your computer can't even run them anymore. Skyler and I have both asked how your junky little 233 was able to beat a 1.0GHz PC AND I PROVIDED BENCHMARKS to prove what you were saying was completely and utterly ridiculous.

I looked at the two benchmarks or so the Apple site had on it. Unlike you, I actually took your arguments into consideration. Then I came back with why they were so flawed. In memory testing, Apple was comparing Mac SDRAM vs PC SDRAM, which is great, if you're doing a comparison on 3 year old PIII. The P4 doesn't use SDRAM. Your processor benchmark didn't show a P4. The encoding benchmark was a farse. Like I stated before, and I have to re-state again. It was run on a "codec." Do you even know what that means? They ran the benchmark on a piece of a program that the Mac was specifically tailored to be fast on. Yet when the whole program is tested READ THE BENCHMARK LINK POSTED BY SKYLER AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS THREAD. Since you NEVER bothered to read the BENCHMARKS posted by Skyler, or the BENCHMARKS posted by me, which have full applications running, not just pieces of them. Your benchmarks were pathetic. EXACTLY like saying my near stock 87GT would kill Skyler's Saleen in a race by looking at our 60ft times both cars having street rubber. It's completely and totally skewed, just because my car will probably launch better cause I can get traction. But NO, can't look at the obvious. Can't research anything. Just get all peeved when you're PROVED wrong. Completely, totally, and utterly dead wrong.

Take a look at my analysis. It tells exactly why the G4 is inferior to the P4. Mac NEVER did a comparison. Just talked about their chip. Here, http://arstechnica.com/cpu/01q2/p4an...4andg4e-2.html read up on it if you think you can actually follow it. Better yet, read the whole article before you start running your mouth.

I see I was wrong several times because I posted examples, and real life experiences. While you were right because you just plain said so... LOL. It's called a debate. Not an argument. Thanks but your magazines are politcally biased, and news media like that are generally hardly experts. The technical information I posted is real comparisons, by real technical people.

Oh. One more thing. Learn some modesty. You've been absolutely hosed in this debate. You keep on digging a hole.

08-25-2002, 07:14 PM	#61
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Okay, you're best suited to answering car questions Chris. Keep out of the computer world until you get a clue. The Mac is setup to execute processes in less steps than a P4. It's true. Only a P4 executes 3 times as many tasks at once. Plus P4's new trace cache allows it to predict processes even before the commands are given with NO delay. Meaning while the Mac is waiting for the next bit of information, the P4 has a constant data stream and is saving 1-2 processes each cycle. Furthermore, since P4 has an insanely high clock speed, it processes each cycle faster than the G4. You seriously need to read about some of this stuff before you run your mouth off. I know you don't play games... with anybody, because your computer can't even run them anymore. Skyler and I have both asked how your junky little 233 was able to beat a 1.0GHz PC AND I PROVIDED BENCHMARKS to prove what you were saying was completely and utterly ridiculous. I looked at the two benchmarks or so the Apple site had on it. Unlike you, I actually took your arguments into consideration. Then I came back with why they were so flawed. In memory testing, Apple was comparing Mac SDRAM vs PC SDRAM, which is great, if you're doing a comparison on 3 year old PIII. The P4 doesn't use SDRAM. Your processor benchmark didn't show a P4. The encoding benchmark was a farse. Like I stated before, and I have to re-state again. It was run on a "codec." Do you even know what that means? They ran the benchmark on a piece of a program that the Mac was specifically tailored to be fast on. Yet when the whole program is tested READ THE BENCHMARK LINK POSTED BY SKYLER AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS THREAD. Since you NEVER bothered to read the BENCHMARKS posted by Skyler, or the BENCHMARKS posted by me, which have full applications running, not just pieces of them. Your benchmarks were pathetic. EXACTLY like saying my near stock 87GT would kill Skyler's Saleen in a race by looking at our 60ft times both cars having street rubber. It's completely and totally skewed, just because my car will probably launch better cause I can get traction. But NO, can't look at the obvious. Can't research anything. Just get all peeved when you're PROVED wrong. Completely, totally, and utterly dead wrong. Take a look at my analysis. It tells exactly why the G4 is inferior to the P4. Mac NEVER did a comparison. Just talked about their chip. Here, http://arstechnica.com/cpu/01q2/p4an...4andg4e-2.html read up on it if you think you can actually follow it. Better yet, read the whole article before you start running your mouth. I see I was wrong several times because I posted examples, and real life experiences. While you were right because you just plain said so... LOL. It's called a debate. Not an argument. Thanks but your magazines are politcally biased, and news media like that are generally hardly experts. The technical information I posted is real comparisons, by real technical people. Oh. One more thing. Learn some modesty. You've been absolutely hosed in this debate. You keep on digging a hole.