[7000rpmisheaven]

Originally posted by 7000rpmisheaven
This is just my opinion but bolting a full exhaust up to stock heads while you have the stock gears is not that great of an idea. You wouldn't really gain alot of HP from the headers because its the heads that are the bottleneck. Althought you might lose some torque. I wouldn't want to lose torque while running the stock gears in heavy vert. Definitely not on a car driven mostly on the street. I vote for the gears like some of the other guys said. If you skipped the headers and the cold air intake you could probably afford to have a set of gears installed and still spend about the same amount.

I agree the best upgrade you can do for quick noticeable performance increase is gears. I also agree that stock heads are a bottleneck. We needed to replace the exhaust anyway so we went with long-tubes. We listened to several different exhaust setups and liked the sound of long-tubes with high-flow exhaust.

What I was saying really only applies to shorties. I guess I forgot to say that. From everything I have seen and heard long tubes are good even on a stock setup. You get a noticeable difference in torque and HP on a stock setup, and even more so when the rest of the motor is opened up.