[jim_howard_pdx]

No problems Moxie,

If I put 15 engineers in a room to discuss long rods,....
7 would say, "I would rather have more displacement"
7 would say "I would like to study the effects of rod length vs torque on a standard engine" (CLUE LESS).....
and ONE guy like me would stand up and say

"to take advantage of long rods, you need a proper package. This would include 11 to 11.5 to 1 compression, tight quench of .039 to .060 at the deck, and no more than .08 at the wedge and a kernal carrot of .10 to .12 inches.
Light rods and light pistons.
Pistons with low friction rings
and zero gap rings on top of that.
A cam with low overlap, but very high lift.
A dual sequential, MAS controlled EFI set up.

And some beers for the testers!!!

That last point was the most important in this entire thread.
If we are not having fun building speed, then we might as well take up knitting or basket weaving.

Moxie, I like to debate long rods with everyone I know, cause few cars keep up with mine, and everyone wants to know why.

Tight quench, high compression, light reciprocating parts, and LONG RODS. These are things I know make superior torque on any platform.

Let's have a beer sometime!!!!