[Mr 5 0]

Originally posted by Janeofalltrades

Mr 5 0, Yes, Sir.

I wish people would stop calling me 'Sir'. I feel like some old guy with a white beard, which I'm not by a long shot.

With all due respect, I do quote factual documentation, including dictionaries, sometines in an effort to be funny and sometimes to try to make a point.

Jenn, thanks for the 'due respect' but quoting the dictionary isn't very funny and you apparently missed the point of my use of the terms nanny and discussion entirely, but never mind. Too late now.

I will make this one final thought and then, regardless of your response, sir, I am finished.

There's that 'sir' stuff again. I feel like we're in the 1890's having tea or something - but I digress. Your last post. Final thought. Got it.

I accept your opinion and appreciate it. You are a very intelligent man that I would enjoy having a quality discussion with. I try to remain open to all ideas and enjoy listening to all yours. When they are articulated in a coherent manner. Mr. 5.0 you do this very well... My mind has been changed in the past.

Well Jenn, this is going much better than I expected. Didn't realize you read my stuff, what little there is these days, but please: continue.

However, in accepting and understanding the theory of Manifiest Destiny, you have to understand the significance of the metamorphasis that this idea has taken over the years.

I would like to quote Mr. Bush's inaugral speech. January 20, 2001.

I'm familiar with President Bush's inaugural speech and a re-reading of it (thanks for the link) showed me that he looked forward to a better future for America, building on the past and rooted in civility and inclusion. The President mentioned our history: where we came from and how we got here but I see nothing that reflects the Manifest Destiny sentiment you allude to.

Friend, this is the absolute doctrin of manifest destiny. Used today in a "Brave New World". It is Mr. Bush who stipulated his intent in his speech and it is his sworn mission to ensure he does not fail. God Bless him and good luck. Although I was not a fan or Mr. Bush when he took office, I can say today that I am surprised by his aptitude to adequately do his job, and grateful that he is doing his job in a competant manner, considering the situations he has been handed.

I believe that Manifest Destiny has no end. It is perpetual and everlasting. Without Manifest Destiny the world would be flat and the earth would be the center of the solar system. Expansion is inevitable and without limit. Yes, land is a finite commodity...on earth; therefore, we must protect it and ensure that some psyco does not ruin it. We are linked by an environment and an evergrowing global economy. The doctrin of Manifest Destiny, all though fundamentally the same today, had to develop along with the changing world. In 1840s we used guns and knives, today we use outrageous technological vehicles of destruction and death.

Well now. I don't know who you're quoting here but I see Manifest Destiny being used as a catch-phrase, not a doctrine or a government policy. The United States is the world leader and has been since the end of World War 2. Old news. We certainly have a duty to lead responsibly and we're doing so in ridding the world of terrorism and attempting to relieve dictators like Saddam Huessin of his WMD. You can call it 'Manifest Destiny' if you care to but it's really a misnomer and somewhat misleading, in my opinion. The one you said you appreciated and accept.

Thanks for the discussion and Good Luck.

Jenn

That's it? Well, I don't quite see what this all has to do with my original message to you but O.K. Jenn, thanks for your comments, too, and while I don't believe much in luck, I accept your wishes and send them back to you.