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What gives Mr 5 0? I thought you'd made your point and were giving up on this thread. You know...I've got a lot of respect for you what with starting this site (I cut my teeth on Mustangs with a lot of help from you and others on this site years ago) which is why I've tried to be as polite and respectable as possible. Apparently you haven't seen fit to return the favor. Apparently you just don't get it. All you've done is revert to meaningless sanctimony and typical rhetoric about "flaming liberals" that I hear everyday watching TV. Guess what...some of us don't like prayer in schools or presidents who get elected solely based on their last name. Yes, a president should among other things speak with poise and meaning because, among other things, it's a sign of intelligence. I like how you pointed out the electoral college. If not for that we'd have the lesser of two j@ck@sses seeing as how Bush didn't win the popular vote. Just because a person may lean more toward the "liberal" side (if you'd payed attention in Poli-Sci class you'd know the entire American political system is classically liberal) does NOT make them a "flaming liberal". So why all the hate? Seems to me you feel so wary or insecure about the validity of your own beliefs and ideas that you feel the need to ridicule anyone who's opinions differ from your own. You said yourself that you'd like to see certain things happen just "to see leftists and die-hard athiests squirm". Why? You wanna talk arrogance? This country is NOT based on Judeo-Christian beliefs. People of every religion and faith live here and I can't believe you'd be so arrogant to disregard them just because you don't agree with them. But then again that feeds into my other point. Myself, I'm agnostic...NOT atheist. I'm not arrogant enough to claim to know who or what god is and those who DO claim that or that they know "what god wants" should be ashamed of themselves. Clinton was a total douche and I love how people dredge him up every time there's a democrat-republican debate, like he's a good example. Here's a crash course in politics: EVERYONE LIES ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE. It's not a party thing. You use words like "us" which to me says you feel you represent an entire party or school of thought. Trust me, I know some die-hard republicans who would be embarrassed by your diatribe. Yes, America is pulling back from the left but that's because they're scared and many to the right have a "if I can't understand it then it's gotta die" attitude (notice I said many, not all). When people are frightened they'll turn wherever they can for a feeling of comfort. Why these people think the right will give them comfort is beyond me...like wars with anyone anytime anywhere will make us that much safer. But there you have it. Basically I think everything you've said is incredibly biased and pompous and that you need to open your mind a little more to other possibilities. I know it's scary...but there's a good chance you aren't right.