[Mr 5 0]

Originally posted by joe4speed :

Man... such hatred in this thread.

Man...such nonsense in this post. Once again, logical and clear opposition to changing the legal definition of marriage is instantly equated to 'hate'. I'm so sick of the uninformed making this knee-jerk assumption despite manifest evidence that it's a lie. Maybe if the same-sex marriage advocates keep saying it enough it'll seem like a fact to them but that won't ever change reality.

The bottom line is, gays are PEOPLE. Human beings. Just like you and me.

Brilliant observation and a wonderful example of stating the obvious. Of course, no one ever said that 'gays' were not PEOPLE....human beings. We said that the legal definition of marriage should not be changed to include same-sex couplings. Apparently you missed that part in the six pages of posts on the subject.

Let them live their lives, without having to be morally or religiously unacceptable.

Excuse me? Religion and morality have not been a part of this discussion, at least as far as I'm concerned, but to say religion (and it's natural by-product, morality) should simply ignore the Bible, Koran or whatever source they use for their basis of belief, is simply absurd and beyond naive. I'm sure you mean well but you have no idea of what you're proposing so I'll assume you have little grasp of the core beliefs of 'religion', especially Christianity.

Life is hard enough all by itself. Who knows... some day, someone YOU care about may "come out of the closet". Will you hate them and abolish them like all those other gays? I hope not.

Yes, life is hard enough but we all make our choices and in America, homosexuals have some rights hetrosexuals don't have. Financially, they are generally in the upper-income brackets. Few gays have a 'hard time', today, unlike decades ago. They are legally protected on every level and socially accepted in almost all quarters of society. Even the schools promote 'acceptance' of homosexuality. From 'Queer Eye For The Straight Guy' to 'Will and Grace', the homosexual is far, far from oppressed in this country and their 'life' is not all that 'hard' for them. I'm fine with that but it doesn't mean that I have to agree with their demands for legalizing 'gay marriage'. You apparently failed to grasp that fact.

It's a shame to see so much hatred, makes me sad.

Boo hoo and as a former president once said: "There you go again!" Equating opposition to legalizing same-sex marriage with 'hate'. Do you even have a clue here or do you just post the standard PC babble with no thought to what you're actually stating?

I am not gay, and I also do not want to hear or see what they do in private. But these are people, with feelings, dreams, and emotions, like all of us. Why should it bother you what they do with their own lives?
Like I said before, live and let live.

Thanks for sharing your sexuality with us, not that anyone asked. Homosexuals live as they please...who's stopping them? From the many gay bars in every big city to the excesses of NAMBLA they are free to do as they wish. Your continued reminder that they are PEOPLE is a Non Sequitur and means little in the context of the issue at hand.

This is just my opinion, of course, and I will not be replying again. I know that my opinion will never be changed like yours won't, so it is senseless to banter back and forth about this.

Hit and run, eh? Well, I can see why. I disagree with your contention that debating the issue won't change anyone's mind. Maybe, maybe not but it's worth having the discussion, as I see it. I will agree with you that that continued re-stating of the same basic points - pro or con - again and again is mostly a waste of time. Unfortunately, after all the posts here, you still ignore the reality that opposition to changing the legal definition of marriage is not automatically a manifestation of 'hatred' toward homosexuals. That's truly sad and why I replied to your post. What you and others who are falling all over themselves to show how open-minded they (think) they are seem to forget, often willfully, is that tolerance (of homosexuality) does not mean acceptance (of gay marriage) and mere opposition (to gay marriage) is not 'hate'. I hope that some day you'll get that. At least try to think about it.