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Old 06-07-2004, 02:25 PM   #40
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Lightbulb Atheists and Christians

Originally posted by bigred90gt :

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I actually took that quote from someones signature on another site. If it was incorrect, I appologize.

I realize that the bible and religion is for those who have faith in it. I cant make myself live my life by a book, that has no concrete evidence that anything in it is true. The only reason you say....is because that is what you were told, and what you have read. There is no proof that any of the events in the bible ever took place. I cant see how any competent person can live there lives based on a book and blind faith. There are too many important, life altering decisions that are made on a daily basis for me to make them based on something that was written in a book, that has no backgroung. And as has already been said, this debate will never end, and usually leaves those involved with a bad taste in their mouths. I have had many debates on the subject, and when the time comes for evidence, and proof of events, the answer is always "because the bible says". And that answer gets no one anywhere.
I believe that when atheists dismiss the bible as poppycock ('a book') they do so at their own spiritual peril - and they are quite free to do so. That's the beauty of Free Will. You make your choice and you eventually will answer for it. Or, as atheists believe, you don't. One day we'll all find out and there will no longer be doubt and futile arguments. I look forward to thyat day.

The proof of God's creation is right in front of us - in so-called 'nature' - which screams 'intelligent design' - yet most atheists ignore it as it upsets their well-nutured 'non-belief'. Of course, the atheist cannot for one second prove that God does not exist, so the old 'evidence' and 'prove it' argument is moot, in my view. "Nature' proves an intelligent design and that begs a designer. The rest is easy to figure out.

I believe that most non-believers simply do not wish to bow to anything or anyone other than themself. It's common. They make up their own moral rules and by dismissing even the existence of God, much less Jesus, they consider themselves unaccountable to anything but human laws and their own personal decisions on what is fair, right and moral. Sort of the adult version of the standard, rebellious teen-age attitude of: "Nobody tells ME what to do!" I can actually understand that attitude on some levels, but it denies the very real spiritual nature of man and ignores many realities, while dismissing God and Christ as unnecessary and even a lie and a fraud because they won't dance on the table for them at the atheists command. How sad I find that willful ignorance.

Most atheists I've known that weren't raised as atheists (rare) were brought up in either a strict religious environment that they rebelled from when they discovered the carnal pleasures of the opposite sex, booze and drugs or a wishy-washy, Easter-and-Christmas type of 'religious' family that never really seemed to believe much of anything about the religion they professed. In both cases, around the teen years the rebellion occured and they were told by atheists how 'narrow-minded' and 'exclusive' their parent's religion was and how it was all a big sham, anyway, yada, yada, yada. They ate this up and looooved feeling grown-up and sophisticated by renouncing 'religion'. In the case of the person raised by devout parents, the thrill of throwing their parents faith back in their face was an added bonus for the really angry rebel.

So, today, we have about 5% of the population claiming to be atheist and a few diehard activists who feel slighted trying to drive Christianity out of public life altogether, even though America was born of Christian principles that endure today, although tattered and torn for the constant assaults on them since the 1960's. I believe we'll survive this period of anti-Christian attitudes and the pseudo-sophistication of the young atheists mocking and denouncing 'religion', smugly full of distorted history and non-facts, pretending to fear an imminent theocracy in America if George W. Bush is re-elected and screaming that the religious folks 'prove it' or STFU. Times have certainly changed, when atheists were well enough respected but the religious were equally so, to now, when the religious are openly mocked and ridiculed in some quarters while the atheist is celebrated and considered the epitome of intelligence and wisdom on the face of the earth. They have no equal. They are 'enlightened', you see. God need not apply.
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