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Originally posted by rbohm
 first the economy started tanking under clinton and his policies of higher taxes on the wealthy(anyone making money). second the unemployment rate under bush was at 5.6%, or that same as under clinton(hmmm, perhaps we give clinton a pass on this because people liked him?? sorry no go here). third, yes there were 3 million jobs lost, but that also started under, hmmm who was it? oh yes CLINTON!! and there have been nearly 2 millions jobs created in the last 10 months, sounds to me like the job market is coming back. as far as interest rates are concerned, they are moving upwards, slowly as they should to prevent a relapse, and to prevent excessive inflation. home construction is also up. the stock market is back around 10k, yes i would say the economy is rebounding. oh yes, the growth rate for the economy is much higher than it was under clinton, and is as high as it was under reagan!
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So you want to blame Clinton for the past 42 monthes??
Whatever. How can it be said that Bush's performance has been good the past 42 monthes and then everything bad that happened the past 42 monthes can be blamed on Clinton? Yes rates are inching up but they are still very low and we are talking about the last 42 monthes, aren't we? The economy still isn't that good its just not quite as bad as it was.. if you want to call that good, so be it. The growth rate, its kinda hard to grow when the economy is so good to start with..
also consider that people keep saying bush lied about wmd's in iraq, but if that is the case, then why does clinton, gore,KERRY, EDWARDS, kennedy, daschle, gephart, the UN, france, germany, russia, egypt, jordan, and dozens other countries, and comgressional democrats get a pass on the fact that they also claimed iraq had wmd's? oh thats right, they hate bush with a passion, and so they develope a memory loss about what they said, and focus only on what bush said. sorry again that does play here pal. the democrats cant claim micheal moore is right, when they proclaimed themselves that saddam had wmd's.
You are changing the subject or trying to slide around it. How are you going to prove me wrong when you don't address what I said?? I never said Iraq didn't have wmd, I believe they do/did. What I said was that Bush used that as an excuse and bought the support of other countries. We didn't/don't have the agreement with the rest of the world that we had with Iraq. Sadam broke the treaty we made with him after desert storm and that was reason enough to take action. Instead we now have a war that is not justified to alot of the world and a reason to invade anyone.
according to the men who served with kerry, he wasnt a leader in vietam, and they will tell you that he isnt a leader here either. sorry but kerry is just plain wrong for the country, and our "cowboy" president is the right person for the job. read this regarding cowboys www.catsprn.com/cowboys.htm yes i want a cowboy fror president as you can trust them to do what they say the will. kerry says he only wants to raise taxes on the rich(same definition as clinton, anyone making money), and he wants to reverse the tax cuts created under bush, but he doesnt want to.....raise.......taxes......on the middle....class..........hmmmmm how does that work again??? according to my math....IT DOESNT. come people think about what kerry is saying, if he actually says anything when he talks.
I don't know where you are getting this information but I keep hearing two sides to this story so nothing is proven. Even if it is true it proves what?? that some people don't like thier boss or that Kerry is a jerk? So what? I don't particularly like Kerry, hell I don't know him but I think he will be a much better choice than Bush.
Both the democrats and republicans have thier good/bad points. What really bothers me, is that some folks are soo extreme in thier views that they can't see anything else. They choose the left or right and do all they can to defend themselves or attack the other, counter-productive I say, and leads me to believe they have a hidden agenda. I'd like to see folks come to thier own conclusions and realize there is a middle ground and good/bad on both sides, instead of having someone else tell them what they believe or try to
force thier views on others. I really get sick of facts being twisted and taken out of context, which is why I don't really care for politics, I suppose.
Look, I don't have internet access right now so I will check back when I can, but I doubt I'll have much more to say on this subject. People will believe what they want and vote how they want. I've said my piece.
There is one question I'd like to ask though.. How is it that the 'liberal media', I've heard so much about, is allowed to keep spewing out all these 'lies' when they are owned by conservatives??