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RBatson · 04-18-2006, 08:05 AM

Jim, I'm going to make this last post on this subject then I have nothing further to say. I don't know why you like defending the corporate crooks in America and want the hard working "Americans" to share the blame for a failing company. Toyota makes vehicles in the USA and rewards their workers comparable wages and benefits. Its corporate greed that is ruining American companies, by cutting back on quality in favor of better profit margins, that is to blame. All the while they reward themselves more and more. http://baltimorechronicle.com/2005/1...yStudies.shtml You want the American workers to share in the blame for a failing American company while praising the quality of Japan's product which is very possibly built by some of the very same people, that's not a logical argument. Neither is loathing Clinton's accent and finding GW's acceptable, even if it is littered with broken english. You can't have it both ways, it just shows how strong your conviction is to your political views. If Clinton couldn't form a complete sentence then I wouldn't have thought he was presidential material either. Back to the subject, Its been said that China is the #1 capitalist country in the world with the USA being second at this point. India and Japan are loving capitialism, as well. They are offering a good product for a fair price. I guess the recent admissions, from board members, to buying the foreign companies products is a testament to that. They are beating us at our own game. Meanwhile, the more Americans that buy foreign products the less Americans are employed and in turn the less that can afford to buy them. Make sense? It does, trust me.

Do you still feel the price of fuel is acceptable? I doubt you would find many that agree with you, if you do. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060416/exxon_pay.html?.v=6 Meanwhile you find alternative energy(enthanol, wind and solar power) "devoid of reality" even when presented with a link to a town that is powered by wind power or the fact that a country is practically energy independent by producing and using ethanol. "Devoid of reality" when presented with pictures(I took personally) of huge windmills on a farm in Minnesota. *Sigh* There is no argument, just trendy words like "hyperbole" and phrases like "looney left wing" that prove absolutely nothing but your dismay for anyone that opposes your political views. Here is another little link for you.. http://www.admworld.com/naen/mainstory.asp make that two.. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060417/inves...anol.html?.v=2 It's going to happen whether you choose to believe it or not, kinda like when I said(before the election) that if GW was re-elected the price of gas would hit $5 by the end of his tenure. It's on its way. We have two individuals with a strong history in the oil industry yet you can't make a connection between them being in office and the surge in petro. Oil companies contributed big to Bush's campaign but that has nothing to do with the price of fuel? Its no accident that Exxon's(XOM) market cap surpassed General Electric's(GE) making it the highest valued company in the world. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...w_x.htm?csp=34 BTW, You say Bush is worth $26 million.. I'm going to assume you know what you're talking about.. $26 million isn't alot of money to people in his position. Heck, we had CEOs pulling down as much as $244 million last year.

Another thing, Bush did lie. I saw it myself. When trying to rally support for the Iraq war he said he had proof that Iraq had weapons, recently he admitted he didn't. I didn't realize it until after the war had started but he also broke the treaty his father signed with Iraq. We were not to invade Iraq unless the UN inspectors said they could confirm that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, they never did say that but in-fact said they didn't. When I realized that I felt betrayed. Something that apparently a majority of the 62 million Americans that voted for him are beginning to feel, judging by his job approval ratings. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1350874.shtml

The ones that think things are going great just haven't been affected yet. I suspect this summer, with the rising price of gas, that many more will be affected. Maybe when those with decent jobs can't afford to fill their tanks it will begin to sink in. Maybe those tax cuts will help.. Those making over $26mil a year will save approx. $500,000 while those making less than $50k a year will save around $10. Hmm... maybe not.

04-18-2006, 08:05 AM	#16
RBatson Registered Member Join Date: May 1997 Posts: 3,028	Re: got a 90 stang Jim, I'm going to make this last post on this subject then I have nothing further to say. I don't know why you like defending the corporate crooks in America and want the hard working "Americans" to share the blame for a failing company. Toyota makes vehicles in the USA and rewards their workers comparable wages and benefits. Its corporate greed that is ruining American companies, by cutting back on quality in favor of better profit margins, that is to blame. All the while they reward themselves more and more. http://baltimorechronicle.com/2005/1...yStudies.shtml You want the American workers to share in the blame for a failing American company while praising the quality of Japan's product which is very possibly built by some of the very same people, that's not a logical argument. Neither is loathing Clinton's accent and finding GW's acceptable, even if it is littered with broken english. You can't have it both ways, it just shows how strong your conviction is to your political views. If Clinton couldn't form a complete sentence then I wouldn't have thought he was presidential material either. Back to the subject, Its been said that China is the #1 capitalist country in the world with the USA being second at this point. India and Japan are loving capitialism, as well. They are offering a good product for a fair price. I guess the recent admissions, from board members, to buying the foreign companies products is a testament to that. They are beating us at our own game. Meanwhile, the more Americans that buy foreign products the less Americans are employed and in turn the less that can afford to buy them. Make sense? It does, trust me. Do you still feel the price of fuel is acceptable? I doubt you would find many that agree with you, if you do. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060416/exxon_pay.html?.v=6 Meanwhile you find alternative energy(enthanol, wind and solar power) "devoid of reality" even when presented with a link to a town that is powered by wind power or the fact that a country is practically energy independent by producing and using ethanol. "Devoid of reality" when presented with pictures(I took personally) of huge windmills on a farm in Minnesota. Sigh There is no argument, just trendy words like "hyperbole" and phrases like "looney left wing" that prove absolutely nothing but your dismay for anyone that opposes your political views. Here is another little link for you.. http://www.admworld.com/naen/mainstory.asp make that two.. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060417/inves...anol.html?.v=2 It's going to happen whether you choose to believe it or not, kinda like when I said(before the election) that if GW was re-elected the price of gas would hit $5 by the end of his tenure. It's on its way. We have two individuals with a strong history in the oil industry yet you can't make a connection between them being in office and the surge in petro. Oil companies contributed big to Bush's campaign but that has nothing to do with the price of fuel? Its no accident that Exxon's(XOM) market cap surpassed General Electric's(GE) making it the highest valued company in the world. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...w_x.htm?csp=34 BTW, You say Bush is worth $26 million.. I'm going to assume you know what you're talking about.. $26 million isn't alot of money to people in his position. Heck, we had CEOs pulling down as much as $244 million last year. Another thing, Bush did lie. I saw it myself. When trying to rally support for the Iraq war he said he had proof that Iraq had weapons, recently he admitted he didn't. I didn't realize it until after the war had started but he also broke the treaty his father signed with Iraq. We were not to invade Iraq unless the UN inspectors said they could confirm that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, they never did say that but in-fact said they didn't. When I realized that I felt betrayed. Something that apparently a majority of the 62 million Americans that voted for him are beginning to feel, judging by his job approval ratings. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1350874.shtml The ones that think things are going great just haven't been affected yet. I suspect this summer, with the rising price of gas, that many more will be affected. Maybe when those with decent jobs can't afford to fill their tanks it will begin to sink in. Maybe those tax cuts will help.. Those making over $26mil a year will save approx. $500,000 while those making less than $50k a year will save around $10. Hmm... maybe not.