The AOD in stock form is a very slow tranny. It'll cost a couple tenths in the 1/4 easy vs a 5 speed. The 5 speed is trickier to launch, but it can net 1/2 sec over the auto when driven very well. It's really the same tranny as what your '96 would get if it were an auto.
To get any better than a mid 15 out of a stock 4.6 GT with an auto would be pretty difficult. Your car, with the 5spd, should be a low 15 second car stone stock. I'd expect a stone stock '93 GT auto to run real high 14's. The '93's had some really crappy computers though, and maybe your buddies car just wasn't putting on it's best show. Still it's it's certainly believable you could hang with him, so could a Type R for that matter, but unless I'm mistaken, the Type R doesn't come with an auto and that makes it a little uneven for comparison.
For the bare basic numbers an AOD will rob about 22%, the T-5 drivetrain is around 17%. That alone means about 10hp less at the wheels, plus less aggressive gearing and slow shifting. Manually shifting the AOD can net a tenth easy. It's more of a crusing tranny than a race tranny, when stock.
fastang I've seen numbers posted on the Type R that it's capable of running a 14.7 or so. That's just about perfect. Most you'll see in the low 15's. The rice crowd likes to believe that will beat a 5.0 because most 5.0's you see run mid 14's stone stock. That's the average though. A quick stock stang with just freebies can run damn near 14 flat for the SD 5.0's, and the MAF cars are in the low 14's. The SN95's run high 14's stone stock. With an Integra running it's best, and a stone stock SN95 running pretty well they would be pretty even. Freebies on a SN95 5.0 can net the big advantage though. 200 lbs actually means about 2 tenths in the quarter.
As far as an Integra Type R taking an SN95 5.0 5 speed car vs car, you're right. It won't happen. The drivers are the only thing that can even it out.
The biggest thing I've begun to notice with the rice crowd is that they quote the car's potential performance. The best numbers you'll ever see the car's pull. We quote average performance 'cause we don't want to sound quite so cocky, especially because we've been driving and learning about cars for more than the last 5 years and so have a great many other stangers who'll put you right back into your place if you start coming up with a whole bunch of BS. That suddenly makes the battlefield look more even to them or something. The import crowd is anxious to prove they can hang with the real musclecars out there. With the very small exception, they can't.
[This message has been edited by Unit 5302 (edited 02-05-2001).]
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