You know what I always notice when talking to friends or other acquaintances...they talk smack about ford saying that either chevy is way better or imports are so fast...what I notice is that when I mention torque,horsepower and quarter times they have no clue what I'm talking about

They think 0-60 in 7.5 seconds= 12 second quarter mile times I guess. I saw a ricer other day leaving orlando that I thought was funny. He had a honda Civic complete with Formula 1 wing and fart can exhaust,ugly tailights and he had rims on the back with low profiles and regular wheels on front with hubcaps...I thought I might have a chance with my 4000ln lincoln to keep close but I didn't do anything...I wished I had rolled down window though and asked him how many rear wheel horses since he obviously needed all that downforce and tire on the back