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Mr 5 0 · 09-12-2001, 04:21 PM

MiracleMax:

I think your scenerio may be a bit overblown.

We have always been on Israels 'side'.
Where do you think they get their weapons and the money to buy weapons from other countries? America. We send tens of millions of dollars to Israel every year. They depend on us to survive, in a sense, although they have never needed our ground troops and I don't see them asking for them in the near future.

I see a conflagration in the mid-east alright, but frankly, the Israelis are very tough; the state motto is: 'Never Again'. A reminder of what happened in WWII when German Jews were almost exterminated because they had nowhere to go and were even rejected by the U.S. at one time. Jews won't be defeated, enslaved, abused and killed by the millions again.
That was the whole point of the establishment of Israel in 1948. It is the reason Israel fights so hard against enemies and will again. We have been holding them back, so far, but if attacked seriously by their neighbors, Isreal will fight fiercely and I believe they will prevail.
Arab countries are not strong militarily. The 1967 and 1973 mideast war was mostly fought by Egypt against Israel and Egypt lost big-time. The '73 war lasted six days before Egypt surrendered (in effect).

I think that Israel will kick Arab butt all the way to the sea, and then some Arab countries will attempt to launch nuclear weapons at Israel. They will be intercepted and the country of origin will see a barrage of missiles rained down on them but no nukes.
It will be bloody and horrible and there will be much loss of life but it has to happen. The Arab-Israel conflict has been building for a long time. Arafat flatly rejected a wildly beneficial peace offer last year and that was the signal for the Arabs to start to prepare for all-out war. This attack on the U.S. is the opening round, in the hope that it will turn Americans against Israel. No chance. It will turn Americans against Arabs, for sure. Dumb move but not totally unexpected with what has happened in the past with Arab violence against Americans and American soldiers and property.

We need to retaliate quickly and in a way that will make the world's teeth rattle, the blow will be so hard. Will we? I can only hope but I don't think we can hesitate very long or the moment is lost and we are back where we were; vulnerable; a sitting duck.

09-12-2001, 04:21 PM	#18
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	MiracleMax: I think your scenerio may be a bit overblown. We have always been on Israels 'side'. Where do you think they get their weapons and the money to buy weapons from other countries? America. We send tens of millions of dollars to Israel every year. They depend on us to survive, in a sense, although they have never needed our ground troops and I don't see them asking for them in the near future. I see a conflagration in the mid-east alright, but frankly, the Israelis are very tough; the state motto is: 'Never Again'. A reminder of what happened in WWII when German Jews were almost exterminated because they had nowhere to go and were even rejected by the U.S. at one time. Jews won't be defeated, enslaved, abused and killed by the millions again. That was the whole point of the establishment of Israel in 1948. It is the reason Israel fights so hard against enemies and will again. We have been holding them back, so far, but if attacked seriously by their neighbors, Isreal will fight fiercely and I believe they will prevail. Arab countries are not strong militarily. The 1967 and 1973 mideast war was mostly fought by Egypt against Israel and Egypt lost big-time. The '73 war lasted six days before Egypt surrendered (in effect). I think that Israel will kick Arab butt all the way to the sea, and then some Arab countries will attempt to launch nuclear weapons at Israel. They will be intercepted and the country of origin will see a barrage of missiles rained down on them but no nukes. It will be bloody and horrible and there will be much loss of life but it has to happen. The Arab-Israel conflict has been building for a long time. Arafat flatly rejected a wildly beneficial peace offer last year and that was the signal for the Arabs to start to prepare for all-out war. This attack on the U.S. is the opening round, in the hope that it will turn Americans against Israel. No chance. It will turn Americans against Arabs, for sure. Dumb move but not totally unexpected with what has happened in the past with Arab violence against Americans and American soldiers and property. We need to retaliate quickly and in a way that will make the world's teeth rattle, the blow will be so hard. Will we? I can only hope but I don't think we can hesitate very long or the moment is lost and we are back where we were; vulnerable; a sitting duck.