Does anyone NOT want kids?

cptn.stangaroo · 06-07-2001, 02:02 PM

I always hear of people who want kids, but do any of you guys not want children.I dont want to sound like a meanie but they just seem like more trouble then there worth.i.e getting no sleep,having no money cause there just one bill after another,and trying to control there behavior, along with numerous other things. just askin.

VNAMUS in VA · 06-07-2001, 02:23 PM

cptn.stangaroo-how old are you?
So granted I'm only 22...I don't want kids-especially right now-and I don't see myself in 20 years wanting kids. I'm not the "motherly" type and I'm so impatient with adults, I'd hate to treat my kids that way. (Plus I'd like to keep my skinniness!) My fiancee (that's a recent change that just sounds weird!) shares my feelings. Everyone I tell says, "Oh you'll change your mind in a few years." That's just fine, but for right now, I'd like to stay child-free thank you very much.
Much rather spend all that money on the Mustangs

[This message has been edited by Obsessed (edited 06-07-2001).]

cptn.stangaroo · 06-07-2001, 02:25 PM

Im 24, i totally agree with what u said

VNAMUS in VA · 06-07-2001, 02:59 PM

Even the part about keeping your skinniness?!!

[This message has been edited by Obsessed (edited 06-07-2001).]

Coupe Devil · 06-07-2001, 03:07 PM

I currently dont want kids ever. I have a 2 year old nephew that I love to death but there is to much involved in having kids. Not to mention the expense, that I could be spending on my own toys, women please do not take offense to this but you are way to complicated. My older brother is currently going through a divorce because his wife said "I'm bored with this". so she went out and got her a shithead boyfriend and ruined everything for the whole family. Sorry just rantin but i'd rather not have all the headaches. My nephew is a great kid. We have a wonderful relationship, when he get into those terrible two modes I simply hand him back to his dad. And i'm only 22 so this may change but I don't forsee a change any time soon.

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Cocked, locked and ready to rock

Pony Power Forever

cptn.stangaroo · 06-07-2001, 03:08 PM

lol, yeah even my skinnyness

VNAMUS in VA · 06-07-2001, 03:24 PM

Yeah, if I ever think of wanting children, I'll go babysit. That'll cure that want real quick! I love my sister's kids with all my heart...but my 5yr old niece is just unbelievably out of control - she is damn cute but I'm so happy to give her back to her mother at the end of the day!

ronny50 · 06-07-2001, 03:58 PM

I thought the sameway you guys did until I had a oopsy baby 4 years ago. Now he is the Love of my life..I would sell my stang for him in a minute and not think twice.
Trust me your attitude will change when you finally realize the world doesn't revolve around you and your toyz.

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1990 GT 5k Original miles!!
Ripper,Pullies,73 MM C&l Mass Air,8mm Wires,Piaa Headlights,MAC Cold Air (Fender)

95mustanggt · 06-07-2001, 04:01 PM

Well I'm only 25, and have been married for almost 2 years (august 14th). Even 2 years old I didn't really want any kids at all.

I love cars way too much, want a nice house, I want to travel to exotic beaches and spend time there with just the wife, and all that stuff.

But since I have been married I have changed my tune a lot. Although I'm still not real big on kids right now, I actually want them in the future and (as the future is always getting closer

) as time progresses I want to start a family with my wife more and more.

The only thing is, I REFUSE TO GIVE UP THE STANG AND GET A MINIVAN!!!!

You will probably change your mind as time goes on, and I think the biggest changes occur after you a married. Just don't rush to get married! Divorces must really suck (on many levels). I can't imagine how hard it would be.

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Far way in Edmonton==>

1995 Mustang GT

lx mike · 06-07-2001, 04:22 PM

as far back as i can remember i have always not wanted kids. didn't want the responsibilityof taking care of them. now more than ever i don't want any kids, i have 3 nieces and when they come obve they are a handfull. don't get me wrong i love them very much but as happy as i am to see them arrive i am just as happy when they go. they way things are no-a-days both parents would havwe to work while the child get shuffled of to day care. my oldest niece would only get to see her dad for 1-2 hours a night cause he worked long days and wouldn't get home till it was getting dark out.

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93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N.

06-07-2001, 06:13 PM

WOW!!!
This is the last place i thought i'd hear people talking about this, let alone people supporting it. I've NEVER wanted to have kids and don't see any need to at least have MY OWN kids. Theres so much commitment, money and time spent worrying about children not to mention that you can easily mess up the children's lives and that you have to deal with the other parent for at least 18 in one form or another whether you eagerly want to or not. I want to retire early as well as travel, have my toys and have good furniture, i also don't want to have to worry about what they're watching on TV, their grades, blah, blah, blah, on and on. I'm planning on getting a vasectomy based loosely on the above, with many, many other reasons (plus i can't be around kids for more than 5 minutes before going crazy), plus there is adoption for kids who NEED parents if i ever decide to become a parent for whatever reason.
Ronny50, i can see your point, but i don't want to have a "sudden" child only to realize i have to put alot of stuff off for 20 years (at least) as well as if i'm miserable. Another point is i've never heard of anyone saying they'd trade their kid for a mustang (or anything for that matter) after they've had one mostly because people would think of them as a "bad person" is they said that. I'm just not ready to have kids and don't see wanting them or being prepared in the next 10-15 years. My parents were poor and miserable because i was an "oops" baby. We were poor and broke and my childhood blew until they started making more money, had less stress, and as a result they could pay the bills and occasionally have fun. I never want to sudject a child to that......wow, sorry, just had to vent

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'84 Mustang 5.0 LX
My car

06-07-2001, 07:26 PM

I've been able to dodge marriage/commitment a few time now and I can see the point you guys are making, I've been there. I love kids.. always have. They need dicipline though.. that is the problem in the world today. People don't disipline their children and some are afraid to because the schools(government) are so quick to react to something a child says.
I don't have children, I have been in 2 relationships where there where kids and the kids always love me, think of me as their dad(or better). I would like to have my own kids someday soon. I usted to think "I don't want to bring a kid into this screwed up world!", now I want to look into the eyes of another and know that they are a part of me. I will live on through them and theirs. They will remember my mustangs and the fun we had and will be someone I can talk to when I'm old.. Who else is gonna want to talk to you when you're sitting around and can't go out. Live it up now kids, you will want kids someday.. for the same reasons I do.

P.S. Don't get anything done that you will regret later.

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Rick
My 89lx(updated 2/21/2001)
My 97 Cobra

Mr 5 0 · 06-07-2001, 07:33 PM

Folks who don't want kids should not have them, simple as that.
I think it must be the saddest thing in the world to be a kid and know (or guess) that you are unwanted and an 'inconvenience' to your parents. To create and/or bear a child and then feel it's a big burden that infringes on your time and resources is cruel to the child and so, I totally agree with anyone of any age who says 'no kids'.

The caution here is that for those who are single and feel that way, be very, very careful who you go to bed with and take very reliable precautions or don't complain later when the pregnancy occurs. You asked for it.

For the married folks, same applies when it comes to taking precautions but I find that most people mature enough to make a marriage committment and stick with it, eventually decide - together - to have at least one child. I did and never regretted it.
Yeah, it's work and time and money, but the rewards are so great that all that pales when weighed in the balance.

By the way; I once felt exactly like you folks who think having a kid was the worst thing that could happen, but I changed my mind after some years of marriage and never looked back. However, it's not for everyone.

Oh, and I've never owned a minivan, either.

dinomite · 06-07-2001, 09:09 PM

I'm only 17, and i would like kids, i think it'd be neat and fun, but i HATE little kids. What i would like would be to just get some kids that were, say, 7-10yrs. old, pre raised to that point. Sorta like that frozen pizza that you put in the microwave first to defrost it and then put it in the mocrowave so it still tastes good. But then i think that buying kids at that age aren't annoying, but then they are beligerent and still expensive.

Topless In Texas · 06-07-2001, 09:42 PM

Hey Guys..
I gotta get in on this one! I was married 5 years before I had my daughter. We did the playing, speed boating, snowskiing, patied ALL THE TIME! When I got pregnant, everyone was wondering how I'd make it through pregnancy (Yes, I surprised them!!)
NOw that my daughter is 8 1/2 years old, she is a little person now, with her own personality, (for better or worse sometime!) I'm just over a head taller than her, and not only is she my child, but she's my friend too. We have a good time together. Especially the last few months when I only have her 3-4 days a week. We've become closer and do more things together, and I would not trade her for the world..Not even for a Saleen Convertible!!

I did the Mini Van thing. Didn't last long(baby years), she loves "Topless" likes to hang on to the light bar when the tops down!!
This is truly a personal choice and no choice is right or wrong, just whatever is right for you!! When and if you are ready, you will know it!!! I was not ready for a long time, then you start thinking about it. And dont let anyone tell you you cant have your toys and kids too!!! THe best of both worlds!!!! And you do eventually get your pre baby body back!!!

I dont know what I would do now without her in my life!! She was the best decision I ever made!!
But for now....enjoy life, do the things you wanna do, and like I said, if and when its right, you'll know it!!

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1994 GT.Convertible/Performance Red. Cold Air Ind.,K&N,H.P. Pulleys,OffRoad H-Pipe,Flows,3.55,Light bar,Custom HeadRests.Lotta Chrome

joe4speed · 06-07-2001, 10:45 PM

It's not that I don't want them, I think I'm just not ready for them, and I haven't found the right Mother yet!

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Joe! 1988 GT, 167,000 miles!!! 13.58@105mph Check out my listing! Click here! Or my website:www.joe4speed.com
99 Ninja ZX-6R:10.32@135mph!
1993 Olds Eighty Eight LSS 16.40@88.8mph

DemonGT · 06-07-2001, 11:00 PM

i agree....my love for my mustang is to much..im only 19..theres no way im even close to being ready for that..my freind thats 20 has a kid thats a year old and after seeing what he goes through i DEFINITLY
dont want one for a looooooong time

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'91 GT,91K,T-5,air silencer removed,racing clutch(previous owner put in so dont know what kind),K&N air filter,Mac long tubes,Cat-back,off road H,FMS 9mm wires,Competition gauges,C&L 76mm MAF

Future Mods:3.73's,Pro 5.0,accufab 70mm tb,TFS heads,TFS stage 1 cam,lakewood struts/shocks,nitto DR's,four cylinder springs up front
ICQ#35670781

Lizard King · 06-08-2001, 12:03 AM

Ahhh, what a subject. Just in time too!

The Lizard Queen was due last Sunday. We are waiting day to day for this kid to come, every morning I wake up I wonder if today is the day I will meet my son. This was not a planned birth, but it is not a bad shock.

All my life, I have not wanted any kids. I have no patience, and I care to much about my toys. I'm selfish, selfish... everything is about me and for me, if not I'm not interested.

Well since I met Genn 4 years ago, I have learned to live with someone and started really loving someong, not lusting or entertaining myself with another person, but really enjoying her presence, and share her stories, memories and life.

Since then, my opinion about having kids has changed. I don't know if I'm ready for this, I know it is not going to be a problem, and I do know that the Mustang is gonna have to come fourth, after the kid, my wife and my company. I'm 25 and she is 21. We do not have a house, and I can not upgrade the car because of that.

But that's ok, we are creating life, and we are going to have our own little selves walking around soon. I can't wait to meet my son, Julien.

Topless In Texas · 06-08-2001, 12:35 AM

Hi Lizard Family!!!
You still not had your little lizard????? Did Lizard Queen ever figure out how to drive w/ the little lizard in tow?(or in belly?)
Be sure to keep us posted when you have him! You're in for a treat!!! (not much sleep for a while, but its worth it!!)

GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!!!

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1994 GT.Convertible/Performance Red. Cold Air Ind.,K&N,H.P. Pulleys,OffRoad H-Pipe,Flows,3.55,Light bar,Custom HeadRests.Lotta Chrome

Capri306 · 06-08-2001, 01:14 AM

I think Demon GT has the same thoughts that I do on this subject. I look at some of my classmates from high school, and some of 'em already have two kids. I'm only 21 (Yaaaay, my B-day's today...er yesterday now.

), and I graduated back in '98, and these kids are having kids?!? WTF?!? I mean more power to them if it all works out, but jeez so many ppl had 'em "right out of the gates."

Working with a few guys my age and having their GF/fiancee/****buddy bring in their kid is a reality check for me. There's no way on God's green Earth I'd even consider having kids (let alone A kid) without being at least financially stable, and being in love and married. I don't see the marriage part happening for a while (you have to have a significant other for that, right? Hehehe), and kids are prolly out of the question until I'm about 30 or so. It wouldn't be fair to a child to bring them into the world "unwanted" as Mr 5.0 put it (very eloquently might I add

), nor if the parents are not able to care for them without significant burden, whether financial or time-wise.

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1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73
1987 Mustang LX Notch

06-07-2001, 02:02 PM	#1
cptn.stangaroo Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: nyc Posts: 29	Does anyone NOT want kids? I always hear of people who want kids, but do any of you guys not want children.I dont want to sound like a meanie but they just seem like more trouble then there worth.i.e getting no sleep,having no money cause there just one bill after another,and trying to control there behavior, along with numerous other things. just askin.

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VNAMUS in VA Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Reston, Virginia, USA Posts: 134	cptn.stangaroo-how old are you? So granted I'm only 22...I don't want kids-especially right now-and I don't see myself in 20 years wanting kids. I'm not the "motherly" type and I'm so impatient with adults, I'd hate to treat my kids that way. (Plus I'd like to keep my skinniness!) My fiancee (that's a recent change that just sounds weird!) shares my feelings. Everyone I tell says, "Oh you'll change your mind in a few years." That's just fine, but for right now, I'd like to stay child-free thank you very much. Much rather spend all that money on the Mustangs [This message has been edited by Obsessed (edited 06-07-2001).]

06-07-2001, 02:25 PM	#3
cptn.stangaroo Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: nyc Posts: 29	Im 24, i totally agree with what u said

06-07-2001, 02:59 PM	#4
VNAMUS in VA Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Reston, Virginia, USA Posts: 134	Even the part about keeping your skinniness?!! [This message has been edited by Obsessed (edited 06-07-2001).]

06-07-2001, 03:07 PM	#5
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	I currently dont want kids ever. I have a 2 year old nephew that I love to death but there is to much involved in having kids. Not to mention the expense, that I could be spending on my own toys, women please do not take offense to this but you are way to complicated. My older brother is currently going through a divorce because his wife said "I'm bored with this". so she went out and got her a shithead boyfriend and ruined everything for the whole family. Sorry just rantin but i'd rather not have all the headaches. My nephew is a great kid. We have a wonderful relationship, when he get into those terrible two modes I simply hand him back to his dad. And i'm only 22 so this may change but I don't forsee a change any time soon. ------------------ '93 lx 4 banger, wrecked '90 lx 5.0, w/ t-5. .030 over fully ported and polihed (did that just to see if I could-first attempt at it). Motor and tranny in use for Ranger project. Cocked, locked and ready to rock Pony Power Forever

06-07-2001, 03:08 PM	#6
cptn.stangaroo Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: nyc Posts: 29	lol, yeah even my skinnyness

06-07-2001, 03:24 PM	#7
VNAMUS in VA Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Reston, Virginia, USA Posts: 134	Yeah, if I ever think of wanting children, I'll go babysit. That'll cure that want real quick! I love my sister's kids with all my heart...but my 5yr old niece is just unbelievably out of control - she is damn cute but I'm so happy to give her back to her mother at the end of the day!

06-07-2001, 03:58 PM	#8
ronny50 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: madison, WI Posts: 70	I thought the sameway you guys did until I had a oopsy baby 4 years ago. Now he is the Love of my life..I would sell my stang for him in a minute and not think twice. Trust me your attitude will change when you finally realize the world doesn't revolve around you and your toyz. ------------------ 1990 GT 5k Original miles!! Ripper,Pullies,73 MM C&l Mass Air,8mm Wires,Piaa Headlights,MAC Cold Air (Fender)

06-07-2001, 04:01 PM	#9
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Well I'm only 25, and have been married for almost 2 years (august 14th). Even 2 years old I didn't really want any kids at all. I love cars way too much, want a nice house, I want to travel to exotic beaches and spend time there with just the wife, and all that stuff. But since I have been married I have changed my tune a lot. Although I'm still not real big on kids right now, I actually want them in the future and (as the future is always getting closer ) as time progresses I want to start a family with my wife more and more. The only thing is, I REFUSE TO GIVE UP THE STANG AND GET A MINIVAN!!!! You will probably change your mind as time goes on, and I think the biggest changes occur after you a married. Just don't rush to get married! Divorces must really suck (on many levels). I can't imagine how hard it would be. ------------------ Driving: 1998 F-150 Far way in Edmonton==> 1995 Mustang GT

06-07-2001, 04:22 PM	#10
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	as far back as i can remember i have always not wanted kids. didn't want the responsibilityof taking care of them. now more than ever i don't want any kids, i have 3 nieces and when they come obve they are a handfull. don't get me wrong i love them very much but as happy as i am to see them arrive i am just as happy when they go. they way things are no-a-days both parents would havwe to work while the child get shuffled of to day care. my oldest niece would only get to see her dad for 1-2 hours a night cause he worked long days and wouldn't get home till it was getting dark out. ------------------ 93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N.

06-07-2001, 06:13 PM	#11
84stangLX Guest Posts: n/a	WOW!!! This is the last place i thought i'd hear people talking about this, let alone people supporting it. I've NEVER wanted to have kids and don't see any need to at least have MY OWN kids. Theres so much commitment, money and time spent worrying about children not to mention that you can easily mess up the children's lives and that you have to deal with the other parent for at least 18 in one form or another whether you eagerly want to or not. I want to retire early as well as travel, have my toys and have good furniture, i also don't want to have to worry about what they're watching on TV, their grades, blah, blah, blah, on and on. I'm planning on getting a vasectomy based loosely on the above, with many, many other reasons (plus i can't be around kids for more than 5 minutes before going crazy), plus there is adoption for kids who NEED parents if i ever decide to become a parent for whatever reason. Ronny50, i can see your point, but i don't want to have a "sudden" child only to realize i have to put alot of stuff off for 20 years (at least) as well as if i'm miserable. Another point is i've never heard of anyone saying they'd trade their kid for a mustang (or anything for that matter) after they've had one mostly because people would think of them as a "bad person" is they said that. I'm just not ready to have kids and don't see wanting them or being prepared in the next 10-15 years. My parents were poor and miserable because i was an "oops" baby. We were poor and broke and my childhood blew until they started making more money, had less stress, and as a result they could pay the bills and occasionally have fun. I never want to sudject a child to that......wow, sorry, just had to vent ------------------ '84 Mustang 5.0 LX My car

06-07-2001, 07:26 PM	#12
rbatson Guest Posts: n/a	I've been able to dodge marriage/commitment a few time now and I can see the point you guys are making, I've been there. I love kids.. always have. They need dicipline though.. that is the problem in the world today. People don't disipline their children and some are afraid to because the schools(government) are so quick to react to something a child says. I don't have children, I have been in 2 relationships where there where kids and the kids always love me, think of me as their dad(or better). I would like to have my own kids someday soon. I usted to think "I don't want to bring a kid into this screwed up world!", now I want to look into the eyes of another and know that they are a part of me. I will live on through them and theirs. They will remember my mustangs and the fun we had and will be someone I can talk to when I'm old.. Who else is gonna want to talk to you when you're sitting around and can't go out. Live it up now kids, you will want kids someday.. for the same reasons I do. P.S. Don't get anything done that you will regret later. ------------------ Rick My 89lx(updated 2/21/2001) My 97 Cobra

06-07-2001, 07:33 PM	#13
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Folks who don't want kids should not have them, simple as that. I think it must be the saddest thing in the world to be a kid and know (or guess) that you are unwanted and an 'inconvenience' to your parents. To create and/or bear a child and then feel it's a big burden that infringes on your time and resources is cruel to the child and so, I totally agree with anyone of any age who says 'no kids'. The caution here is that for those who are single and feel that way, be very, very careful who you go to bed with and take very reliable precautions or don't complain later when the pregnancy occurs. You asked for it. For the married folks, same applies when it comes to taking precautions but I find that most people mature enough to make a marriage committment and stick with it, eventually decide - together - to have at least one child. I did and never regretted it. Yeah, it's work and time and money, but the rewards are so great that all that pales when weighed in the balance. By the way; I once felt exactly like you folks who think having a kid was the worst thing that could happen, but I changed my mind after some years of marriage and never looked back. However, it's not for everyone. Oh, and I've never owned a minivan, either.

06-07-2001, 09:09 PM	#14
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	I'm only 17, and i would like kids, i think it'd be neat and fun, but i HATE little kids. What i would like would be to just get some kids that were, say, 7-10yrs. old, pre raised to that point. Sorta like that frozen pizza that you put in the microwave first to defrost it and then put it in the mocrowave so it still tastes good. But then i think that buying kids at that age aren't annoying, but then they are beligerent and still expensive.

06-07-2001, 09:42 PM	#15
Topless In Texas Not broken anymore! Join Date: May 2001 Location: La Porte, TEXASS :) Posts: 1,963	Hey Guys.. I gotta get in on this one! I was married 5 years before I had my daughter. We did the playing, speed boating, snowskiing, patied ALL THE TIME! When I got pregnant, everyone was wondering how I'd make it through pregnancy (Yes, I surprised them!!) NOw that my daughter is 8 1/2 years old, she is a little person now, with her own personality, (for better or worse sometime!) I'm just over a head taller than her, and not only is she my child, but she's my friend too. We have a good time together. Especially the last few months when I only have her 3-4 days a week. We've become closer and do more things together, and I would not trade her for the world..Not even for a Saleen Convertible!! I did the Mini Van thing. Didn't last long(baby years), she loves "Topless" likes to hang on to the light bar when the tops down!! This is truly a personal choice and no choice is right or wrong, just whatever is right for you!! When and if you are ready, you will know it!!! I was not ready for a long time, then you start thinking about it. And dont let anyone tell you you cant have your toys and kids too!!! THe best of both worlds!!!! And you do eventually get your pre baby body back!!! I dont know what I would do now without her in my life!! She was the best decision I ever made!! But for now....enjoy life, do the things you wanna do, and like I said, if and when its right, you'll know it!! ------------------ 1994 GT.Convertible/Performance Red. Cold Air Ind.,K&N,H.P. Pulleys,OffRoad H-Pipe,Flows,3.55,Light bar,Custom HeadRests.Lotta Chrome

06-07-2001, 10:45 PM	#16
joe4speed He said Member...heh, heh Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Jupiter, Florida U.S.A. Posts: 3,718	It's not that I don't want them, I think I'm just not ready for them, and I haven't found the right Mother yet! ------------------ Joe! 1988 GT, 167,000 miles!!! 13.58@105mph Check out my listing! Click here! Or my website:www.joe4speed.com 99 Ninja ZX-6R:10.32@135mph! 1993 Olds Eighty Eight LSS 16.40@88.8mph

06-07-2001, 11:00 PM	#17
DemonGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 879	i agree....my love for my mustang is to much..im only 19..theres no way im even close to being ready for that..my freind thats 20 has a kid thats a year old and after seeing what he goes through i DEFINITLY dont want one for a looooooong time ------------------ '91 GT,91K,T-5,air silencer removed,racing clutch(previous owner put in so dont know what kind),K&N air filter,Mac long tubes,Cat-back,off road H,FMS 9mm wires,Competition gauges,C&L 76mm MAF Future Mods:3.73's,Pro 5.0,accufab 70mm tb,TFS heads,TFS stage 1 cam,lakewood struts/shocks,nitto DR's,four cylinder springs up front ICQ#35670781

06-08-2001, 12:03 AM	#18
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	Ahhh, what a subject. Just in time too! The Lizard Queen was due last Sunday. We are waiting day to day for this kid to come, every morning I wake up I wonder if today is the day I will meet my son. This was not a planned birth, but it is not a bad shock. All my life, I have not wanted any kids. I have no patience, and I care to much about my toys. I'm selfish, selfish... everything is about me and for me, if not I'm not interested. Well since I met Genn 4 years ago, I have learned to live with someone and started really loving someong, not lusting or entertaining myself with another person, but really enjoying her presence, and share her stories, memories and life. Since then, my opinion about having kids has changed. I don't know if I'm ready for this, I know it is not going to be a problem, and I do know that the Mustang is gonna have to come fourth, after the kid, my wife and my company. I'm 25 and she is 21. We do not have a house, and I can not upgrade the car because of that. But that's ok, we are creating life, and we are going to have our own little selves walking around soon. I can't wait to meet my son, Julien.

06-08-2001, 12:35 AM	#19
Topless In Texas Not broken anymore! Join Date: May 2001 Location: La Porte, TEXASS :) Posts: 1,963	Hi Lizard Family!!! You still not had your little lizard????? Did Lizard Queen ever figure out how to drive w/ the little lizard in tow?(or in belly?) Be sure to keep us posted when you have him! You're in for a treat!!! (not much sleep for a while, but its worth it!!) GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!!! ------------------ 1994 GT.Convertible/Performance Red. Cold Air Ind.,K&N,H.P. Pulleys,OffRoad H-Pipe,Flows,3.55,Light bar,Custom HeadRests.Lotta Chrome

06-08-2001, 01:14 AM	#20
Capri306 Moderator Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,001	I think Demon GT has the same thoughts that I do on this subject. I look at some of my classmates from high school, and some of 'em already have two kids. I'm only 21 (Yaaaay, my B-day's today...er yesterday now. ), and I graduated back in '98, and these kids are having kids?!? WTF?!? I mean more power to them if it all works out, but jeez so many ppl had 'em "right out of the gates." Working with a few guys my age and having their GF/fiancee/**buddy bring in their kid is a reality check for me. There's no way on God's green Earth I'd even consider having kids (let alone A kid) without being at least financially stable, and being in love and married. I don't see the marriage part happening for a while (you have to have a significant other for that, right? Hehehe), and kids are prolly out of the question until I'm about 30 or so. It wouldn't be fair to a child to bring them into the world "unwanted" as Mr 5.0 put it (very eloquently might I add ), nor if the parents are not able to care for them without significant burden, whether financial or time-wise. ------------------ Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online** 1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73 1987 Mustang LX Notch