Oil leak...

scott93gt · 11-25-2001, 11:19 AM

I have an oil leak somewhere on the front of the engine. It is not leaving any puddles in the garage but it is slinging oil onto the accessory drive belt and alternator. Most of the oil is concentrated on the alternator fan blades. Anyone have similar problem? What corrected the problem? I have already purchased a front main seal but the crank pulley and dampner do not show evidence of leaks (no residue on either) so I am waiting to install it. I don't want to replace parts that aren't broken. Thanks in advance for any help.

Unit 5302 · 11-25-2001, 12:12 PM

Front main seal, and the timing case cover are suspect if you ask me. Are you losing oil, or power steering fluid?

exgmguy · 11-25-2001, 12:24 PM

If it's getting slung around it is probably coming from the power steering pump.

scott93gt · 11-26-2001, 06:26 PM

I have not noticed any drop in the oil level. I have not checked the powersteering pump yet. I only put 4000 miles on the car since April of this year so I don't know that I would have noticed much of a change in the oil level. It is a pain cleaning the oil off the alternator and drive belt everytime I take the car to a show. It is also ruining my hood liner. I will check the powersteering pump when I get home from work tonite. Thanks for your input.

6T9PONY · 11-26-2001, 09:58 PM

i had a similar problem with my 69....powersteering oil was being flung on the side of my engine compartment....

I bet that is what your problem is...check it out...and let us know....

gtsr515 · 11-27-2001, 09:56 PM

put a piece of duct tape over the pee hole on the power steering pump cap, many road course drivers have spun, including myself, due to this little problem.

scott93gt · 12-01-2001, 09:26 AM

Sorry for the delay in responding...
I have checked the power steering pump reservoir and it is full, and I have never added any fluid to it. The oil level, on the other hand, is a half quart low. There is no fluid spray on the driver's side compartment at all. The belt tensioner, and the alternator pulley/fan are covered as is the alternator pulley sheild. The ribbed side of the accessory belt also has a coating of oil. The car has been sitting in the exact same spot since October 31st and there is not one drop of oil on the garage floor. The crank pulley has a coating on the inside of the pulley and the dampner also has a coating of oil. Any suggestions? Thanks again for all the responses and help.

PKRWUD · 12-01-2001, 12:36 PM

It's gotta be the front seal.

Take care,
-Chris

gtsr515 · 12-01-2001, 04:45 PM

Its your Power steering, its the little pee hole on the top of the cap, most of us road racers just put a piece of racer tape over it.

PKRWUD · 12-01-2001, 05:34 PM

If it was power steering fluid, why hasn't he lost any fluid from the reservoir? Why is the inside of the crank pulley wet? I still say it's gotta be the front seal.

Take care,
-Chris

gtsr515 · 12-01-2001, 05:38 PM

Well, we are all guessing, not arguing, why is there no oil at the seal? thats why I say Power steering, I don't know, if I was standing there i would know.

PKRWUD · 12-01-2001, 05:47 PM

I hear ya. I agree it would be alot easier in person! He said there wasn't any "residue" by the seal or the crank pulley at first, but now says there is a coating of oil there. Fresh oil leaks usually remain clean. It's the areas that the oil splatters to that grab dirt and grime and become messy. BTW, I wasn't trying to argue, I was hoping you could tell me why the p/s fluid hadn't changed!

Take care,
-Chris

gtsr515 · 12-01-2001, 06:01 PM

guessing again, I must not have read there was a residue of P>S fluid, no change could be because its a minor leak and PS is thinner, creating a nice sheen, but not a lot of actual loss, hell bud, I don't know. Maybe it's because my 89 Sable leaks like a bi........
Later, no flames dude.

scott93gt · 12-02-2001, 07:37 AM

Thanks again for the replies.
Since I have the front main seal and it is relatively easy to install I am going to relace it. I can not find any other palce that the oil is coming from. The residue on the crank pulley is just that, a fine film or coating. The alternator sheild is coated with oil, almost 1/4" thick. Oh well, wish me luck. At least I have all winter to the work. Thanks again for all the replies.

PKRWUD · 12-02-2001, 07:59 AM

Make sure there isn't a groove worn into the balancer where it meets the seal. If there is, a new seal alone won't solve the problem. You will also need to obtain a sleeve that fits over the balancer snout. They're cheap, so don't sweat it.

Take care,
-Chris

onefastlx420 · 12-03-2001, 03:00 PM

i was losing oil froom my oil presseure sending thingamajigger

PKRWUD · 12-03-2001, 04:08 PM

Damn thingamajigger bastards!

Take care,
-Chris

6T9PONY · 12-04-2001, 02:12 AM

I actually had a leakage problem with my oil pressure sending thingamajigger....but when we had the engine out of the car a few weeks ago before we put it in the fastback I replaced all the fittings and stuff...hopefully that won't leak anymore....I don't think that's what would be causing the problem with scott93gt's car.....never know though....

scott93gt · 12-04-2001, 06:50 AM

I did change the oil sending unit in September of 2000. I will check that also to see if it is leaking. Thanks for all the tips. I will keep you informed on the progress.

11-25-2001, 11:19 AM	#1
scott93gt Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Saltsburg, PA USA Posts: 468	Oil leak... I have an oil leak somewhere on the front of the engine. It is not leaving any puddles in the garage but it is slinging oil onto the accessory drive belt and alternator. Most of the oil is concentrated on the alternator fan blades. Anyone have similar problem? What corrected the problem? I have already purchased a front main seal but the crank pulley and dampner do not show evidence of leaks (no residue on either) so I am waiting to install it. I don't want to replace parts that aren't broken. Thanks in advance for any help. __________________ Scott 1993 Mustang GT Silver CC/Titanium Accent GT, Black Clothe interior. 5 speed, Hurst Competition Plus, 3 chamber Flows, 3.08's. 2010 VW GTI 2dr 6MT (no pictures yet) 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee

11-25-2001, 12:24 PM	#3
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	If it's getting slung around it is probably coming from the power steering pump. __________________ 1988 Mustang GT stock bottom 302, C4 10.9 @ 128 with 8 psi of Novi 1000 boost!----STOLEN 1989 Mustang notchback Warmed up 306 with a Procharger.

11-26-2001, 06:26 PM	#4
scott93gt Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Saltsburg, PA USA Posts: 468	I have not noticed any drop in the oil level. I have not checked the powersteering pump yet. I only put 4000 miles on the car since April of this year so I don't know that I would have noticed much of a change in the oil level. It is a pain cleaning the oil off the alternator and drive belt everytime I take the car to a show. It is also ruining my hood liner. I will check the powersteering pump when I get home from work tonite. Thanks for your input. __________________ Scott 1993 Mustang GT Silver CC/Titanium Accent GT, Black Clothe interior. 5 speed, Hurst Competition Plus, 3 chamber Flows, 3.08's. 2010 VW GTI 2dr 6MT (no pictures yet) 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee

11-27-2001, 09:56 PM	#6
gtsr515 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sunny, Hot, Sebring, Florida Posts: 725	put a piece of duct tape over the pee hole on the power steering pump cap, many road course drivers have spun, including myself, due to this little problem. __________________ Remember...2nd place is 1st place for losers!

12-01-2001, 09:26 AM	#7
scott93gt Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Saltsburg, PA USA Posts: 468	Sorry for the delay in responding... I have checked the power steering pump reservoir and it is full, and I have never added any fluid to it. The oil level, on the other hand, is a half quart low. There is no fluid spray on the driver's side compartment at all. The belt tensioner, and the alternator pulley/fan are covered as is the alternator pulley sheild. The ribbed side of the accessory belt also has a coating of oil. The car has been sitting in the exact same spot since October 31st and there is not one drop of oil on the garage floor. The crank pulley has a coating on the inside of the pulley and the dampner also has a coating of oil. Any suggestions? Thanks again for all the responses and help. __________________ Scott 1993 Mustang GT Silver CC/Titanium Accent GT, Black Clothe interior. 5 speed, Hurst Competition Plus, 3 chamber Flows, 3.08's. 2010 VW GTI 2dr 6MT (no pictures yet) 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee

11-25-2001, 12:12 PM	#2
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Front main seal, and the timing case cover are suspect if you ask me. Are you losing oil, or power steering fluid?

11-26-2001, 09:58 PM	#5
6T9PONY All about the Windsor. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,052	i had a similar problem with my 69....powersteering oil was being flung on the side of my engine compartment.... I bet that is what your problem is...check it out...and let us know....

12-01-2001, 12:36 PM	#8
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	It's gotta be the front seal. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-01-2001, 04:45 PM	#9
gtsr515 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sunny, Hot, Sebring, Florida Posts: 725	Its your Power steering, its the little pee hole on the top of the cap, most of us road racers just put a piece of racer tape over it. __________________ Remember...2nd place is 1st place for losers!

12-01-2001, 05:34 PM	#10
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	If it was power steering fluid, why hasn't he lost any fluid from the reservoir? Why is the inside of the crank pulley wet? I still say it's gotta be the front seal. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-01-2001, 05:38 PM	#11
gtsr515 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sunny, Hot, Sebring, Florida Posts: 725	Well, we are all guessing, not arguing, why is there no oil at the seal? thats why I say Power steering, I don't know, if I was standing there i would know. __________________ Remember...2nd place is 1st place for losers!

12-01-2001, 05:47 PM	#12
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	I hear ya. I agree it would be alot easier in person! He said there wasn't any "residue" by the seal or the crank pulley at first, but now says there is a coating of oil there. Fresh oil leaks usually remain clean. It's the areas that the oil splatters to that grab dirt and grime and become messy. BTW, I wasn't trying to argue, I was hoping you could tell me why the p/s fluid hadn't changed! Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-01-2001, 06:01 PM	#13
gtsr515 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sunny, Hot, Sebring, Florida Posts: 725	guessing again, I must not have read there was a residue of P>S fluid, no change could be because its a minor leak and PS is thinner, creating a nice sheen, but not a lot of actual loss, hell bud, I don't know. Maybe it's because my 89 Sable leaks like a bi........ Later, no flames dude. __________________ Remember...2nd place is 1st place for losers!

12-02-2001, 07:37 AM	#14
scott93gt Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Saltsburg, PA USA Posts: 468	Thanks again for the replies. Since I have the front main seal and it is relatively easy to install I am going to relace it. I can not find any other palce that the oil is coming from. The residue on the crank pulley is just that, a fine film or coating. The alternator sheild is coated with oil, almost 1/4" thick. Oh well, wish me luck. At least I have all winter to the work. Thanks again for all the replies. __________________ Scott 1993 Mustang GT Silver CC/Titanium Accent GT, Black Clothe interior. 5 speed, Hurst Competition Plus, 3 chamber Flows, 3.08's. 2010 VW GTI 2dr 6MT (no pictures yet) 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee

12-02-2001, 07:59 AM	#15
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Make sure there isn't a groove worn into the balancer where it meets the seal. If there is, a new seal alone won't solve the problem. You will also need to obtain a sleeve that fits over the balancer snout. They're cheap, so don't sweat it. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-03-2001, 03:00 PM	#16
onefastlx420 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: augusta ga usa Posts: 54	i was losing oil froom my oil presseure sending thingamajigger __________________ 89lx cocaine white,cobra wing/emblems,chrome 18in cobra r's/nitto xtremes, gt40 longblock from ccm,forged pistons,f303,1.6 rockers,performer rpm intake,70mm tb,75mm bullet,bbk fenderwell induction,24#inj,190l pump,bbk fuel pressure regulator,140amp alt,msd ignition/disributor,aluminum 3 row radiator,bbk shorty's,off road h pipe,flowmasters,king cobra clutch,world class t-5,3.73's,strut tower brace,subframe connectors

12-03-2001, 04:08 PM	#17
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Damn thingamajigger bastards! Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-04-2001, 02:12 AM	#18
6T9PONY All about the Windsor. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,052	I actually had a leakage problem with my oil pressure sending thingamajigger....but when we had the engine out of the car a few weeks ago before we put it in the fastback I replaced all the fittings and stuff...hopefully that won't leak anymore....I don't think that's what would be causing the problem with scott93gt's car.....never know though....

12-04-2001, 06:50 AM	#19
scott93gt Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Saltsburg, PA USA Posts: 468	I did change the oil sending unit in September of 2000. I will check that also to see if it is leaking. Thanks for all the tips. I will keep you informed on the progress. __________________ Scott 1993 Mustang GT Silver CC/Titanium Accent GT, Black Clothe interior. 5 speed, Hurst Competition Plus, 3 chamber Flows, 3.08's. 2010 VW GTI 2dr 6MT (no pictures yet) 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee

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