Here is how to remove a/c, smog, and tensioner w/ no brackets

1320 · 12-16-2002, 12:22 PM

First I do not want to take credit for this...... I got this from (niks4082fst4u) on Corral.. I am just posting the pic so everyone can see how it is routed. Oh and the belt size I used (after 3 trips to NAPA is a 060703) which is 70-3/4".....

What I did was remove both alternator bolts and loosened the two PS nuts (but did not remove) and then route the belt, install the two alternator bolts (Do not tighten yet), now go tighten the PS nuts. and then go back and pullback on the alternator a little and tighten up...THATS IT!!!!!Your done!!

Dark_5.0 · 12-16-2002, 01:07 PM

That is exactly how mine is ran. Its ok for a track only car but I wouldnt trust it on an everyday driver.

TransAm86 · 12-16-2002, 01:29 PM

Why not???

Does a not working AC pump and a smog pump robs the engine of power???

And, to delete power steering, what needs to be done?

bigred90gt · 12-16-2002, 01:29 PM

I'm a little confused. It's ok for a car that's driven at WOT everytime it's driven, but not for a car that's driven under normal conditions? Please clarify this for me.
Caymon

Dark_5.0 · 12-16-2002, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigred90gt
I'm a little confused. It's ok for a car that's driven at WOT everytime it's driven, but not for a car that's driven under normal conditions? Please clarify this for me.
Caymon

I tow my car to the track so if it breaks its no big deal. I wouldnt trust that set-up for a daily commute over time the belt will get looser and looser without a tensioner.

But thats just me,

bigred90gt · 12-16-2002, 01:39 PM

So what if you tighten the belt and then put the tensioner on it, will it hit the belt on the other side of the altenater? I'm just trying to get ideas on cheaper ways to eliminate the a/c and smog pump. I have a truck that I usually drive, but from time to time, I drive my car to work (about 30 min one way) so I don't want to have to worry about it. Thanks.
Caymon

Dark_5.0 · 12-16-2002, 02:27 PM

Yeah if you put the tensioner on it like that it will make the belt touch its self.

I have been running mine like that for over a year and 150+ trips down the track. So far no problems.

saltzstang · 12-16-2002, 06:50 PM

Ive got a trick that eliminates the p/s too but it uses the factory tensioner and you have to change to a forward rotation water pump.....I got my water pump at autozone for 16$$.

saltzstang · 12-16-2002, 10:02 PM

I think the pump if I can remember is off of an 83 bird

lx5091 · 12-16-2002, 10:57 PM

hey saltzstang, you got a bigger pic of your motor it looks purty!

saltzstang · 12-17-2002, 08:50 AM

Thanks,Yeah ill post it tonight right here.

1320 · 12-17-2002, 11:00 AM

Anyone out there fabbed up a "plate" where the battery was to install their MSD? Something that is hindged? I thought I've seen this in one of the magazines a while back???

saltzstang · 12-17-2002, 08:09 PM

here it is

lx5091 · 12-17-2002, 10:36 PM

cool red theme carried through the block, pullies, wires, etc.
nice

bigred90gt · 12-17-2002, 11:05 PM

Hey saltzstang - Were at in southeast Texas are you from?

Caymon

saltzstang · 12-18-2002, 09:48 AM

Bridge City....its about 10 miles east of Port Arthur

Agent_4573 · 12-18-2002, 12:27 PM

I don't get hte whole fuss with the loss of the tensioner. I can swear when i used to hang around my dads auto shop that many a time did we use a pry bar on the alternator to tighten the belt, and then just tightened down the alternator bolts. I remember doing this to to dune buggy's, cars, trucks, just about everything. As long as you keep an eye on it, it should be fine. Everytime you check your oil just put a little pressure on the belt to see if its still tight.

1320 · 12-18-2002, 02:52 PM

Well, What erveryone is re-ferring to is.. Back in the day we used V belts and there were slotted brackets to allow tightening in the PS pumps and Alternators. The purpose of the tensioner is to eliminate having to ever have to tighten a loose belt..

Man I cant believe I said "back in the Day" Makes me feel OLD!!!

12-16-2002, 12:22 PM	#1
1320 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Lake in the Hills, Illinois Posts: 15	Here is how to remove a/c, smog, and tensioner w/ no brackets First I do not want to take credit for this...... I got this from (niks4082fst4u) on Corral.. I am just posting the pic so everyone can see how it is routed. Oh and the belt size I used (after 3 trips to NAPA is a 060703) which is 70-3/4"..... What I did was remove both alternator bolts and loosened the two PS nuts (but did not remove) and then route the belt, install the two alternator bolts (Do not tighten yet), now go tighten the PS nuts. and then go back and pullback on the alternator a little and tighten up...THATS IT!!!!!Your done!! __________________

12-16-2002, 01:07 PM	#2
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	That is exactly how mine is ran. Its ok for a track only car but I wouldnt trust it on an everyday driver. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

12-16-2002, 01:29 PM	#3
TransAm86 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Gatineau, Qc, Canada Posts: 62	Why not??? Does a not working AC pump and a smog pump robs the engine of power??? And, to delete power steering, what needs to be done? __________________

12-16-2002, 01:29 PM	#4
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	I'm a little confused. It's ok for a car that's driven at WOT everytime it's driven, but not for a car that's driven under normal conditions? Please clarify this for me. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

12-16-2002, 01:39 PM	#6
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	So what if you tighten the belt and then put the tensioner on it, will it hit the belt on the other side of the altenater? I'm just trying to get ideas on cheaper ways to eliminate the a/c and smog pump. I have a truck that I usually drive, but from time to time, I drive my car to work (about 30 min one way) so I don't want to have to worry about it. Thanks. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

12-16-2002, 02:27 PM	#7
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Yeah if you put the tensioner on it like that it will make the belt touch its self. I have been running mine like that for over a year and 150+ trips down the track. So far no problems. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

12-16-2002, 06:50 PM	#8
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	Ive got a trick that eliminates the p/s too but it uses the factory tensioner and you have to change to a forward rotation water pump.....I got my water pump at autozone for 16$$. __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

12-16-2002, 10:57 PM	#10
lx5091 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fall River, MA Posts: 467	hey saltzstang, you got a bigger pic of your motor it looks purty! __________________ '02 Explorer XLT 4.0L --Nice Vehicle '97 Saturn SL1--Soon to be ditched for a Ford!

12-17-2002, 08:50 AM	#11
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	Thanks,Yeah ill post it tonight right here. __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

12-17-2002, 11:00 AM	#12
1320 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Lake in the Hills, Illinois Posts: 15	Anyone out there fabbed up a "plate" where the battery was to install their MSD? Something that is hindged? I thought I've seen this in one of the magazines a while back??? __________________

12-17-2002, 10:36 PM	#14
lx5091 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fall River, MA Posts: 467	cool red theme carried through the block, pullies, wires, etc. nice __________________ '02 Explorer XLT 4.0L --Nice Vehicle '97 Saturn SL1--Soon to be ditched for a Ford!

12-17-2002, 11:05 PM	#15
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	Hey saltzstang - Were at in southeast Texas are you from? Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

12-18-2002, 09:48 AM	#16
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	Bridge City....its about 10 miles east of Port Arthur __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

12-18-2002, 12:27 PM	#17
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	I don't get hte whole fuss with the loss of the tensioner. I can swear when i used to hang around my dads auto shop that many a time did we use a pry bar on the alternator to tighten the belt, and then just tightened down the alternator bolts. I remember doing this to to dune buggy's, cars, trucks, just about everything. As long as you keep an eye on it, it should be fine. Everytime you check your oil just put a little pressure on the belt to see if its still tight. __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

12-18-2002, 02:52 PM	#18
1320 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Lake in the Hills, Illinois Posts: 15	Well, What erveryone is re-ferring to is.. Back in the day we used V belts and there were slotted brackets to allow tightening in the PS pumps and Alternators. The purpose of the tensioner is to eliminate having to ever have to tighten a loose belt.. Man I cant believe I said "back in the Day" Makes me feel OLD!!! __________________

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