Almost Ready To Drive, But I Have A Major Problem Now... :-(

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 06-29-2001, 12:00 AM

i cant shift into any gears except 3rd, but when i put it in reverse, it grinds. Any clue what thats all about? i will have the car driveable next week, if i can get this stupid problem fixed..

thanks

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
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86GT · 06-29-2001, 10:34 AM

If its for your T-5, it sounds like a clutch engagement problem. Check your throw out bearing and linkages, and if that all checks out (ie alignment, position, etc.) then check the disc and pressure plate. If the clutch and all that is fine, then it is probably an internal problem in the transmission.

jimberg · 06-29-2001, 10:53 AM

When the car's not running can you move it into those other gears? Clutch in or clutch out?

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Rick 91GT · 06-29-2001, 03:14 PM

Jim- Here's a little more info..Last night I was chatting with Kris aka: Bowtie, he said that he has a stock shifter and assumes he has a stock cable and clutch, he did have the motor out so maybe something wasn't hooked up correctly, didn't really have a lot of time I was tired last night.

What doesn't makes sense is why it will go into 3rd gear

, as 1st,2nd,3rd and 4th are all on the same shaft, could be a bent blocker ring not allowing it to go in smooth?

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BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 06-30-2001, 09:00 PM

jim, it shifts fine when the car is not turned on, but once its on, i cant do anything except 3rd. i can put it in 1st, & then start it, but once i try to get it to 2nd, it goes to neutral, & wont shift to 2nd.(not while car moving, when its at a stop)

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 06-30-2001, 11:43 PM

anyone else? really need help, if i can get it on the road next week, if i get it fixed

foxandfoe · 07-01-2001, 12:10 AM

sounds like the clutch is not disengaging completly how far of the floor does it catch
when its in first does it want to move with the clutch fully depressed and no brake
check under the dash theres a plastic rachet
mechanism that self adjust the clutch check it out make shure its not broke or stuck
pull the pawl that holds the rachet mechanism back away from it the press the petal it should self adjust correctly if it seems bad go aftermarket i have t-5 in fbird and stang never had that happen and it not be the clucth but it could happen

jimberg · 07-01-2001, 08:18 AM

Try double-clutching and see if it shifts. Push the clutch to pull out of gear, let up when in neutral and then push the clutch in again to go into another gear. If this works for you, it is probably the synchros.

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BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 07-02-2001, 10:32 PM

foxandfoe, it sounds just like what u described, ill try what you said.
in first, with no brake, it inches forward, as if i was slipping the clutch.
could the adjuster thing be the problem?
ill try that tomorrow, & post what it did.

thanks

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang
My Site (Not Done Yet)

foxandfoe · 07-05-2001, 12:58 AM

REMEMBERED ADJUSTER IS CALLED the QAUDRANT
(ratchet mechanism) and pawl they somtimes get stuck or froze, or the cable is now to stretch to far for it to adjust. or at worst
something in the clutch broke like a spring is and is wedged between disc and flywhelel or pressure plate start withmechanism first
try lube and make shure its free.

DirtKing · 07-05-2001, 08:59 PM

a melted clutch cable can also cause this problem.

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06-29-2001, 12:00 AM	#1
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	Almost Ready To Drive, But I Have A Major Problem Now... :-( i cant shift into any gears except 3rd, but when i put it in reverse, it grinds. Any clue what thats all about? i will have the car driveable next week, if i can get this stupid problem fixed.. thanks ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang My Site (Not Done Yet)

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06-29-2001, 10:34 AM	#2
86GT Sniffed too much n20 Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ont, Canada Posts: 1,018	If its for your T-5, it sounds like a clutch engagement problem. Check your throw out bearing and linkages, and if that all checks out (ie alignment, position, etc.) then check the disc and pressure plate. If the clutch and all that is fine, then it is probably an internal problem in the transmission.

06-29-2001, 10:53 AM	#3
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	When the car's not running can you move it into those other gears? Clutch in or clutch out? ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

06-29-2001, 03:14 PM	#4
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	Jim- Here's a little more info..Last night I was chatting with Kris aka: Bowtie, he said that he has a stock shifter and assumes he has a stock cable and clutch, he did have the motor out so maybe something wasn't hooked up correctly, didn't really have a lot of time I was tired last night. What doesn't makes sense is why it will go into 3rd gear , as 1st,2nd,3rd and 4th are all on the same shaft, could be a bent blocker ring not allowing it to go in smooth? ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! FIRST TIME OUT 12.16@111 WHEELS-UP

06-30-2001, 09:00 PM	#5
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	jim, it shifts fine when the car is not turned on, but once its on, i cant do anything except 3rd. i can put it in 1st, & then start it, but once i try to get it to 2nd, it goes to neutral, & wont shift to 2nd.(not while car moving, when its at a stop)

06-30-2001, 11:43 PM	#6
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	anyone else? really need help, if i can get it on the road next week, if i get it fixed

07-01-2001, 12:10 AM	#7
foxandfoe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: new castle pa Posts: 32	sounds like the clutch is not disengaging completly how far of the floor does it catch when its in first does it want to move with the clutch fully depressed and no brake check under the dash theres a plastic rachet mechanism that self adjust the clutch check it out make shure its not broke or stuck pull the pawl that holds the rachet mechanism back away from it the press the petal it should self adjust correctly if it seems bad go aftermarket i have t-5 in fbird and stang never had that happen and it not be the clucth but it could happen

07-01-2001, 08:18 AM	#8
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	Try double-clutching and see if it shifts. Push the clutch to pull out of gear, let up when in neutral and then push the clutch in again to go into another gear. If this works for you, it is probably the synchros. ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

07-02-2001, 10:32 PM	#9
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	foxandfoe, it sounds just like what u described, ill try what you said. in first, with no brake, it inches forward, as if i was slipping the clutch. could the adjuster thing be the problem? ill try that tomorrow, & post what it did. thanks ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang My Site (Not Done Yet)

07-05-2001, 12:58 AM	#10
foxandfoe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: new castle pa Posts: 32	REMEMBERED ADJUSTER IS CALLED the QAUDRANT (ratchet mechanism) and pawl they somtimes get stuck or froze, or the cable is now to stretch to far for it to adjust. or at worst something in the clutch broke like a spring is and is wedged between disc and flywhelel or pressure plate start withmechanism first try lube and make shure its free.

07-05-2001, 08:59 PM	#11
DirtKing Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: brooklyn center,mn,USA Posts: 169	a melted clutch cable can also cause this problem. ------------------ 88LX notch, Speedpro EFI Procharged!