Need tips for more hp?

thiagoGT88 · 12-05-2002, 12:10 AM

How can I get more hp in my 88 GT without doing much?

Thanks

toevil1 · 12-05-2002, 12:35 AM

You will not gain any horspower but your engine will think it has with a gear change. Try some 3.73 gears.

Conman · 12-05-2002, 12:39 AM

free mods:
remove air silencer
bump initial timing to 12-14 degrees (every car is different, maybe more)

good bang for your buck:
good tune
gears
off road h/x pipe
sticky tires for drag and light to light

excellent horsepower increase but a little costly:
Heads/cam/intake combo

12-05-2002, 01:46 PM

A K&N airfilter will help out some. Exhaust is another good upgrade. Off-road H-pipes are just a little over $100. And of course some Flowmaster mufflers!

ultraflo · 12-05-2002, 04:06 PM

An entry level nitrous system would be the best bang for the buck, IMHO. ...and all of the above comments are great as well.

briand · 12-05-2002, 04:14 PM

pulleys!!!

Mustang_GT_90 · 12-06-2002, 04:12 PM

If you're wanting to go faster there is a lot of stuff that you can do which is relatively cheap depending on how "hardcore" you are into going fast.
Sorry I don't mean to sound like a know it all on this but I mean I've done this twice now and it's one of those deals you learn your mistakes and try to do it right the second time.

1. Do a good tune up: Plugs, maybe wires, filter, make sure cap is good, make sure coil is firing good. Then set your timing up to around 14 degrees you'll be amazed at the difference. Make sure your throttle body and stuff is clean, clean it out with a bottle brush and some carb cleaner.

2. Remove the air silencer. For now don't worry about ram air and don't get a normal conical filter it's going to suck hot air in from the engine compartment. They've done tests and with a K&N panel filter the stock air box with no silencer has been proven well over 300 horse.

3. Make sure your car runs as cool as possible. I run a 160 degree cheb thermostat in mine. Lots of people say that's to cold but it works good for me. I live in Kentucky and we have pretty cold winters and 100 degree summers and it's been working pretty good. You don't need to like shell out of the hypertech, a normal 160 or 185 chevrolet will work and it's $6.

4. If you don't need it running off the engine then get rid of it. Parasitic load is BADDDDD. This one of those how "hardcore" are you deals. Sure underdrive pulleys help but there are some trade offs. I'm about to get rid of mine now becuase I'm tired of the alternator discharging at low RPM and I"ve got a G3 alternator.
If you can in your area drop the smog pump, not that it's draining power but it's weight on the front end. You can bypass it at the track with a 70 inch belt using the A/C pulley as an idler. I gained .2 in the 1/4 from that alone. Does your A/C work, if not why keep it, dump it. My truly hardcore freinds are running like a 34 inch belt that only runs the water pump and alternator. You can take the hoses off the stock power steering rack and run it, I don't suggest it but you can do it and it really turns a lot easier than you'd ever imagine.

5. Another thing people overlook is electric fans. I'm running a normal autozone special 16" electric fan. It cools my car fine and I was amazed how much quicker it revs up top when you drop that stock fan. That should be with the whole parasitic load thing.

6. Weight reduction, if you wanna go fast drop weight from the car, every 100 pounds is .1 in the quarter which is equal to having to have your motor gain around 10 hp. This is a freeby so that's why I threw it in up here. Stuff like sound deadening you can trash. We got 100 pounds off a car in just removing sound deadening and spare and jack and stuff. This is another "how hardcore are you thing though"

7. This is where you start to spend money, mufflers and exhaust and stuff or what I"d suggest is gears before exhaust. I went 13.90@98 with just gears through the factory exhaust 4 cats and the works and didn't gain that much with aftermarket exhaust after I did it.
If you do exhaust though do a good flowing X pipe and a set of something like flow masters. I don't know if this point if I'd say go headers or not because you don't really have enough motor to need them.

GEARS. Gears are the bigest kick in the ***** you can give a car, if you've got airplane gears and go to like a 3.73 then you'll be in for a big jump in acceleration.

8. Making it hook, by this time if you've been going good and if you've got a 5 speed car you're gonna be hauling and also spinning pretty bad. You're gonna need some kind of tires or something. A good set of drag radials or cheater slicks. It doesn't do you any good to make power if you're gonna be spinning.

9. SPRAY IT Spray the heck out of it. Nitrous is the most bang for the buck and depending on how much of a shot you go with on a stick set of tires by the time you've done all of the above you should be WELL into the 12s.

Like I've said above, I know that not everybody is gonna agree with this and I really don't mean to sound like a know it all guys. I don't want to start an argument. I've done this all before and I've just thrown money away and seen what worked and what didn't and I spend a LOT of time at the track.
I've got most of the mods done above and as you can see in my signature I'm running 13.30s on motor and spraying 12.40s and my car isn't stripped or gutted it's close to full weight. When I get done with weight reduction there's no telling what it's gonna do.

crazypete · 12-06-2002, 05:44 PM

Strip it!

You can pull about 350 lbs out of these cars before you start hitting critical systems. Yes, that's with all the interior and exterior pieces intact

remove a/c compressor, get an elimanator kit
remove all tubes and hoses for heater core and the heater box
remove hood heatshield pad and soundproofing
battery to the trunk
Remove frame for dashboard (doesnt need it)
Pull radio support bracket
Replace armrest unit with 90' convertible plate
remove back seat support frame flipdowns
remove back seat support bars (it's SO soft now!)
remove rear bumper I-beam and supports
remove rear axle damper
remove spare tire + jack + iron
remove tire well board and sheet of soundproofing
The front bumper is only 15 pounds and is a hot topic of discussion, keep it or strip it

-315 pounds + tire/jack/iron (65 lbs?) ~380 lbs. Now add some 373 gears and you'll be spinning some tires. Dont worry about rpms, your milage wont suffer too much. She'll accelerate better, brake better and handle better from all the weight loss. I run this config with a carb and it rips

chico · 12-06-2002, 05:45 PM

Add a 32 oz. can of Torco fuel accelator to your gas tank and bump your timing 4 to 6 degrees..if you are running 93 octane , look for it to jump to 102 octane with 10 gallons of gas. On my blown motor I am picking up 40 more rwhp. This Torco is not an octane booster!

12-05-2002, 12:10 AM	#1
thiagoGT88 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York Posts: 23	Need tips for more hp? How can I get more hp in my 88 GT without doing much? Thanks

12-05-2002, 12:39 AM	#3
Conman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 351	free mods: remove air silencer bump initial timing to 12-14 degrees (every car is different, maybe more) good bang for your buck: good tune gears off road h/x pipe sticky tires for drag and light to light excellent horsepower increase but a little costly: Heads/cam/intake combo __________________ '88 lx, Black on Black, check it out here Spent all my money on school, what a dumb mistake I'm old enough to know better, but still too young to care.

12-05-2002, 01:46 PM	#4
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	HP TIPS A K&N airfilter will help out some. Exhaust is another good upgrade. Off-road H-pipes are just a little over $100. And of course some Flowmaster mufflers!

12-05-2002, 04:06 PM	#5
ultraflo NX dealer-man Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Peoria, Illinois Posts: 977	An entry level nitrous system would be the best bang for the buck, IMHO. ...and all of the above comments are great as well. __________________ RLS Racing! 93 LX 9.20 @ 147mph 03 Mach 1 12.39 @ 116mph

12-05-2002, 04:14 PM	#6
briand Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Jackson, LA Posts: 264	pulleys!!! __________________ GT-40X heads(58cc), Cobra upper and lower, 75 mm Bullet, Moroso fenderwell induction, FRPP 65mm TB, 24# injectors, black magic electric fan, phenolic spacer, 1.7 crane cobra roller rockers, crane 2031, BBK 1 5/8 equal length hearders, 2.5 inch off road pipe, 2.5 flowmaster catback, FMS 3.55 gears, T5-Z transmission, FRPP aluminum driveshaft, svo heavy duty clutch, mcleod bullet proff bellhousing, BBK adjustable cluth quadrant, hurst billet shifter, lakewood subframes, BBK strut tower brace, BBK 2pt lower cross bar, FMS 190 lph fuel pump, crane ps91 coil, FMS street pulleys, and 300+ race wires. All thanks goes to my wife sheri, jason, jeff, robby, my dad and all others you helped contribute. most importantly GOD!!!

12-05-2002, 12:35 AM	#2
toevil1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 39	You will not gain any horspower but your engine will think it has with a gear change. Try some 3.73 gears.

12-06-2002, 04:12 PM	#7
Mustang_GT_90 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 68	If you're wanting to go faster there is a lot of stuff that you can do which is relatively cheap depending on how "hardcore" you are into going fast. Sorry I don't mean to sound like a know it all on this but I mean I've done this twice now and it's one of those deals you learn your mistakes and try to do it right the second time. 1. Do a good tune up: Plugs, maybe wires, filter, make sure cap is good, make sure coil is firing good. Then set your timing up to around 14 degrees you'll be amazed at the difference. Make sure your throttle body and stuff is clean, clean it out with a bottle brush and some carb cleaner. 2. Remove the air silencer. For now don't worry about ram air and don't get a normal conical filter it's going to suck hot air in from the engine compartment. They've done tests and with a K&N panel filter the stock air box with no silencer has been proven well over 300 horse. 3. Make sure your car runs as cool as possible. I run a 160 degree cheb thermostat in mine. Lots of people say that's to cold but it works good for me. I live in Kentucky and we have pretty cold winters and 100 degree summers and it's been working pretty good. You don't need to like shell out of the hypertech, a normal 160 or 185 chevrolet will work and it's $6. 4. If you don't need it running off the engine then get rid of it. Parasitic load is BADDDDD. This one of those how "hardcore" are you deals. Sure underdrive pulleys help but there are some trade offs. I'm about to get rid of mine now becuase I'm tired of the alternator discharging at low RPM and I"ve got a G3 alternator. If you can in your area drop the smog pump, not that it's draining power but it's weight on the front end. You can bypass it at the track with a 70 inch belt using the A/C pulley as an idler. I gained .2 in the 1/4 from that alone. Does your A/C work, if not why keep it, dump it. My truly hardcore freinds are running like a 34 inch belt that only runs the water pump and alternator. You can take the hoses off the stock power steering rack and run it, I don't suggest it but you can do it and it really turns a lot easier than you'd ever imagine. 5. Another thing people overlook is electric fans. I'm running a normal autozone special 16" electric fan. It cools my car fine and I was amazed how much quicker it revs up top when you drop that stock fan. That should be with the whole parasitic load thing. 6. Weight reduction, if you wanna go fast drop weight from the car, every 100 pounds is .1 in the quarter which is equal to having to have your motor gain around 10 hp. This is a freeby so that's why I threw it in up here. Stuff like sound deadening you can trash. We got 100 pounds off a car in just removing sound deadening and spare and jack and stuff. This is another "how hardcore are you thing though" 7. This is where you start to spend money, mufflers and exhaust and stuff or what I"d suggest is gears before exhaust. I went 13.90@98 with just gears through the factory exhaust 4 cats and the works and didn't gain that much with aftermarket exhaust after I did it. If you do exhaust though do a good flowing X pipe and a set of something like flow masters. I don't know if this point if I'd say go headers or not because you don't really have enough motor to need them. GEARS. Gears are the bigest kick in the *** you can give a car, if you've got airplane gears and go to like a 3.73 then you'll be in for a big jump in acceleration. 8. Making it hook, by this time if you've been going good and if you've got a 5 speed car you're gonna be hauling and also spinning pretty bad. You're gonna need some kind of tires or something. A good set of drag radials or cheater slicks. It doesn't do you any good to make power if you're gonna be spinning. 9. SPRAY IT** Spray the heck out of it. Nitrous is the most bang for the buck and depending on how much of a shot you go with on a stick set of tires by the time you've done all of the above you should be WELL into the 12s. Like I've said above, I know that not everybody is gonna agree with this and I really don't mean to sound like a know it all guys. I don't want to start an argument. I've done this all before and I've just thrown money away and seen what worked and what didn't and I spend a LOT of time at the track. I've got most of the mods done above and as you can see in my signature I'm running 13.30s on motor and spraying 12.40s and my car isn't stripped or gutted it's close to full weight. When I get done with weight reduction there's no telling what it's gonna do. __________________ 90 Mustang, full weight, 5 speed, pulleys, 3.73 gears... 13.33@101 mph on stock motor and DOT's 12.44@112.5 on the juice. Check out our clubs website at http://www.stanggang.com

12-06-2002, 05:44 PM	#8
crazypete Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 592	Strip it! You can pull about 350 lbs out of these cars before you start hitting critical systems. Yes, that's with all the interior and exterior pieces intact remove a/c compressor, get an elimanator kit remove all tubes and hoses for heater core and the heater box remove hood heatshield pad and soundproofing battery to the trunk Remove frame for dashboard (doesnt need it) Pull radio support bracket Replace armrest unit with 90' convertible plate remove back seat support frame flipdowns remove back seat support bars (it's SO soft now!) remove rear bumper I-beam and supports remove rear axle damper remove spare tire + jack + iron remove tire well board and sheet of soundproofing The front bumper is only 15 pounds and is a hot topic of discussion, keep it or strip it -315 pounds + tire/jack/iron (65 lbs?) ~380 lbs. Now add some 373 gears and you'll be spinning some tires. Dont worry about rpms, your milage wont suffer too much. She'll accelerate better, brake better and handle better from all the weight loss. I run this config with a carb and it rips __________________ 91 GT Carb conversion, holley 600 double pumper, edelbrock performer intake, FMS "C" drop springs, march 1000 underdrive pullies, crane 1.7 roller rockers, GT-40P headers, bassani x pipe, american thunder catback, FMS 4.56's, msd aL6, trunkmount battery, A/C eliminator kit, 3000 stall tci streetfighter, AOD with transgo kit, A+ servo, 300M hardened lockup shaft, kevlar bands and 28,000 gvw trans cooler, 3 core radiator, 300 lbs stripped with a full interior

12-06-2002, 05:45 PM	#9
chico Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manteca,Ca. Posts: 114	Add a 32 oz. can of Torco fuel accelator to your gas tank and bump your timing 4 to 6 degrees..if you are running 93 octane , look for it to jump to 102 octane with 10 gallons of gas. On my blown motor I am picking up 40 more rwhp. This Torco is not an octane booster! __________________ 98 cobra convt. 515 rwhp 421 torque..554 rwhp on 98 octane..635 rwhp this summer

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