Want to put a T5 in my 64 1/2. Need some advice.

Mercury · 04-02-2001, 12:18 AM

Hello there everyone.

Its been like 3 or more months since I last posted. Been very busy. Finally got my old Stang, the one with a 289, running again, and after driving it around all weekend, I've decided I want to put a 5 spd in it. Its got a C4 now. I've never done a conversion before, and have to keep it on a budget. While changing to a T5, I would like to put a nine inch, or 8.8 under the car also. Any Ideas on what other Ford car would have a 9 or 8.8 that would bolt up with no major modifications? I'm not to sure. Have any of you out there ever put a manaul tranny in an origianlly auto car? And advice would be appreciated.

Thanks much.

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64 1/2 Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd.

64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

Dark Knight · 04-02-2001, 03:36 AM

here ya go http://www.webtripper.com/automotive...ng/t5swap.html
why change to an 8.8? the 8in you have is pretty strong really.. or go to someplace like currie and get a complete 9in..

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84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer
3.55's, underdrives stock shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day
265 on the mph/weight chart

Jaydee · 04-02-2001, 08:13 AM

From what I have heard and read, putting an 8.8 into an early car is not an easy undertaking - I'll look around for some info on this swap.

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1965 K code coupe - numbers matching - restoration ongoing. 1987 LX notch, 5 spd, stock heads (minor porting) and intake, 65mmTB, 3.55's, ram air, pulleys, shorty's, 2.5" exhaust with cats 13.89@100.25

66fastback · 04-04-2001, 12:22 PM

I'm with these guys, I wonder why you feel you need to dump the 8" rear. The only reason to need the 9" is for severe use. I've put several 8" rears through years of hard street use without any failures. Sure the 9" is much stronger, and gear selection is a lot better, but do you need those things? You can buy a set of new 3.55 or 3.80 gears and a TSD unit for the 8".

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66 GT Fastback,fuel injected 5.0, 5-speed, cable clutch, JBA's and duals, 3.40 gears and handling mods...just call me "Doc"

Mercury · 04-05-2001, 12:12 AM

I know the 8 inch is a strong diff. but I was weighing the cost of rebuilding my 8 in and putting gears and a spool in it, versus trying to find a locking 9 in. Honestly, its been a while since I priced anything for my old Mustangs.

I want to find a T5 from a junkyard, and rebuild it if need be, but I cant find any at all around here. Does anyone have a basic idea of the cost of converting and auto first Gen Mustang to a T5 5 speed?

I know the drive shaft will need shortened and of course the cost of the T5, if I ever find one, and the cost of the clutch and components, but the specialty parts, I'm not sure about the cost, anyone have any ideas? Please tell me, the cost is important, if its to much I'll just put my money towards the 2000 GT.

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64 1/2 Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd.

64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

David Fulford · 04-05-2001, 08:43 AM

I did the T-5 swap in my 69 mustang and fortunately I found a tranny, bellhousing, and flywheel for 1000.00 I checked, and to buy the t-5 bell housing and 50oz. flywheel from ford was a little over 400.00 Then some conversion parts and cross memeber from www.windsorfox.com were about 200.00. You will definitley need another flywheel and make sure it matches your harmonic balancer weight. I think the older mustangs had 28oz and the newer ones with t-5s have 50oz.(don't hold me to that though it's been a while since I did all that research) Good luck

66fastback · 04-08-2001, 11:43 AM

Mine was about around a $1000 bill. I bought a used T5 and bellhousing for about 700, and then you need the new crossmember and shorten your driveshaft.

the original flywheel and pressure plate can be used, but the bellhousing must be modified to use the old style clutch fork and throw out bearing. You have to attach an old styly clutch fork pivot to it.

Or you can convert to a cable clutch, but that will cost you a few extra bucks.

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66 GT Fastback,fuel injected 5.0, 5-speed, cable clutch, JBA's and duals, 3.40 gears and handling mods...just call me "Doc"

David Fulford · 04-11-2001, 04:05 PM

That's right! I went to a new style block. I guess that's why I had to get a different flywheel.

04-02-2001, 12:18 AM	#1
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Want to put a T5 in my 64 1/2. Need some advice. Hello there everyone. Its been like 3 or more months since I last posted. Been very busy. Finally got my old Stang, the one with a 289, running again, and after driving it around all weekend, I've decided I want to put a 5 spd in it. Its got a C4 now. I've never done a conversion before, and have to keep it on a budget. While changing to a T5, I would like to put a nine inch, or 8.8 under the car also. Any Ideas on what other Ford car would have a 9 or 8.8 that would bolt up with no major modifications? I'm not to sure. Have any of you out there ever put a manaul tranny in an origianlly auto car? And advice would be appreciated. Thanks much. ------------------ 64 1/2 Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. 64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

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04-02-2001, 03:36 AM	#2
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	here ya go http://www.webtripper.com/automotive...ng/t5swap.html why change to an 8.8? the 8in you have is pretty strong really.. or go to someplace like currie and get a complete 9in.. ------------------ 84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives stock shorties stock cam, 1.7's 14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day 265 on the mph/weight chart

04-02-2001, 08:13 AM	#3
Jaydee Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Conn. Posts: 220	From what I have heard and read, putting an 8.8 into an early car is not an easy undertaking - I'll look around for some info on this swap. ------------------ 1965 K code coupe - numbers matching - restoration ongoing. 1987 LX notch, 5 spd, stock heads (minor porting) and intake, 65mmTB, 3.55's, ram air, pulleys, shorty's, 2.5" exhaust with cats 13.89@100.25

04-04-2001, 12:22 PM	#4
66fastback Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 208	I'm with these guys, I wonder why you feel you need to dump the 8" rear. The only reason to need the 9" is for severe use. I've put several 8" rears through years of hard street use without any failures. Sure the 9" is much stronger, and gear selection is a lot better, but do you need those things? You can buy a set of new 3.55 or 3.80 gears and a TSD unit for the 8". ------------------ 66 GT Fastback,fuel injected 5.0, 5-speed, cable clutch, JBA's and duals, 3.40 gears and handling mods...just call me "Doc"

04-05-2001, 12:12 AM	#5
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	I know the 8 inch is a strong diff. but I was weighing the cost of rebuilding my 8 in and putting gears and a spool in it, versus trying to find a locking 9 in. Honestly, its been a while since I priced anything for my old Mustangs. I want to find a T5 from a junkyard, and rebuild it if need be, but I cant find any at all around here. Does anyone have a basic idea of the cost of converting and auto first Gen Mustang to a T5 5 speed? I know the drive shaft will need shortened and of course the cost of the T5, if I ever find one, and the cost of the clutch and components, but the specialty parts, I'm not sure about the cost, anyone have any ideas? Please tell me, the cost is important, if its to much I'll just put my money towards the 2000 GT. ------------------ 64 1/2 Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. 64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

04-05-2001, 08:43 AM	#6
David Fulford Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 193	I did the T-5 swap in my 69 mustang and fortunately I found a tranny, bellhousing, and flywheel for 1000.00 I checked, and to buy the t-5 bell housing and 50oz. flywheel from ford was a little over 400.00 Then some conversion parts and cross memeber from www.windsorfox.com were about 200.00. You will definitley need another flywheel and make sure it matches your harmonic balancer weight. I think the older mustangs had 28oz and the newer ones with t-5s have 50oz.(don't hold me to that though it's been a while since I did all that research) Good luck

04-08-2001, 11:43 AM	#7
66fastback Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 208	Mine was about around a $1000 bill. I bought a used T5 and bellhousing for about 700, and then you need the new crossmember and shorten your driveshaft. the original flywheel and pressure plate can be used, but the bellhousing must be modified to use the old style clutch fork and throw out bearing. You have to attach an old styly clutch fork pivot to it. Or you can convert to a cable clutch, but that will cost you a few extra bucks. ------------------ 66 GT Fastback,fuel injected 5.0, 5-speed, cable clutch, JBA's and duals, 3.40 gears and handling mods...just call me "Doc"

04-11-2001, 04:05 PM	#8
David Fulford Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 193	That's right! I went to a new style block. I guess that's why I had to get a different flywheel.