1st Gen. Lightning.

Dark_5.0 · 01-14-2003, 03:46 PM

I really like the original Ford lightning trucks and I am considering selling my CRX for down payment money.

How fast are they stock?

Is it capable of towing my 90LX on a trailor to the track on a regular basis with out any upgrades?

If I understand correctly they come with GT-40 heads and intake. So some bolt ons and a e-303 cam would work nicely.

Also they are Speed density correct?

Thanks,

PKRWUD · 01-14-2003, 04:50 PM

I always thought they were mass air, but I could be wrong (it happens

). Try http://www.f150online.com/ . Their Lightning forum is by far the favorite, and there is tons of good info there.

Take care,
~Chris

302 LX Eric · 01-15-2003, 09:51 AM

I also thought they were mass-air, but I could be wrong too!

Weren't they equipped with 351s? Those older Lightnings had real 'clean' lines on them.

I would think that it could tow your Mustang without any issues.

E

bigred90gt · 01-15-2003, 08:12 PM

It'll definately tow your car with no probs. I have towed mine with my 4.9l I6 F-150. I am pretty sure they had the 351 in them, but I have no idea about the mass air vs speed density.

Caymon

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 01-20-2003, 01:30 AM

Im really considering buying one after this summer.

Of course my stangs engine needs a rebuild too

95GTS · 01-22-2003, 09:26 PM

Ask me whatever you want to know. By the way, the f150online Lightning forum is pretty much strictly GEN 2s. They don't like us GEN 1 guys over there. Go the National Lightning Owner's Club for unlimited info on these trucks.

They run low 15s stock. Yes they have the 351W with hypereutectic pistons, 8.8:1 compression ratio, custom torque ground cam (marine cam grind), GT40 cast iron heads, and GT40 intake. It'll pull your stang with no problems at all. They were made in 93,94, and 95. All were speeddensity. The E303 cam WILL NOT work with the 351W. It'll throw your idle all to heck and it'll run bad to boot. If you do a cam swap that's not SD friendly then get a EEC tuner or TwEECer to tune it correctly. Mass Air conversion runs around $1000 NO JOKE. And the ones out there are crap. The only one worth anything is the Pro-M and even then you'll lose performance. They also have a tranny cooler, oil cooler, and aluminum radiators. The tranny is the heavy duty automatic E4OD with 4 inch aluminum drive shaft and a 4.10 limited slip 8.8" rear with 31-spline axles. Lightning specific 17 inch wheels with 275/60R17 inch stock tire size (lots o' meat, wide dudes). Stock factory rated at 240 hp and 340 lb/ft of torque but the hp is more closer to about 270 according to dyno tests. They are torque monsters and easy to upgrade. Mine, stock, ran a 15.3 @ 90 with a 2.3 60ft. Now if I could only hook, lol. If you need to know anything else just let me know.

95GTS · 01-22-2003, 09:32 PM

Oh by the way, there are good off the shelf speeddensity cams out there. BUT the best way is to have one ground for your application so you get the most of it. Stick with speeddensity. You can run as fast you as want to with it. There's no reason to try to switch to mass air.

You'll love the Lightning. You pretty much have to drive one to appreciate what all these trucks can do. Seriously, no one believes what is said about these trucks because they've never ridden or driven them. It's one of those deals where you have to drived it to believe it. Low 15s, .9 g's on the skid pad, 60-0 mph braking in only 140ft. Big brakes, stiff for-the-twisties suspension, and lots of power (especially torque which is what these 4500 pounds bricks need).

95GTS · 01-22-2003, 10:10 PM

Lightning Specs from Ford SVT Check out that link for the factory specs.

Also, here's a GEN 1 Lightning FAQ webpage that was put together by one of the NLOC members. Lots of good stuff on it.

Dark_5.0 · 01-23-2003, 01:29 PM

Man 96GTS thanks for all of that killer info.

Right now I am on the hunt for my next SVT vehicle.

95GTS · 01-23-2003, 06:17 PM

You're welcome. Anytime. Check over in the Trucks classified forum on the NLOC site for GEN 1s for sale. Good luck finding one. They are great trucks and will look real good next to the stangs in the garage

.

erikd93lx · 05-15-2003, 06:34 PM

They are GREAT trucks. I got rid of my '93 lx for one and I do not regret it at all even though the truck is slower. It does handle better and I can pull a boat with it without any problems. I also can drive my 4 wheeler into the bed. I couldn't do either of those with the mustang. All I can say about Gen1 lightnings is that they are the best trucks ever made in my opinion. I know I LOVE mine!

01-14-2003, 03:46 PM	#1
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	1st Gen. Lightning. I really like the original Ford lightning trucks and I am considering selling my CRX for down payment money. How fast are they stock? Is it capable of towing my 90LX on a trailor to the track on a regular basis with out any upgrades? If I understand correctly they come with GT-40 heads and intake. So some bolt ons and a e-303 cam would work nicely. Also they are Speed density correct? Thanks, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-14-2003, 04:50 PM	#2
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	I always thought they were mass air, but I could be wrong (it happens ). Try http://www.f150online.com/ . Their Lightning forum is by far the favorite, and there is tons of good info there. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

01-15-2003, 09:51 AM	#3
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	I also thought they were mass-air, but I could be wrong too! Weren't they equipped with 351s? Those older Lightnings had real 'clean' lines on them. I would think that it could tow your Mustang without any issues. E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

01-15-2003, 08:12 PM	#4
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	It'll definately tow your car with no probs. I have towed mine with my 4.9l I6 F-150. I am pretty sure they had the 351 in them, but I have no idea about the mass air vs speed density. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

01-20-2003, 01:30 AM	#5
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	Im really considering buying one after this summer. Of course my stangs engine needs a rebuild too __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

01-22-2003, 09:26 PM	#6
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	Ask me whatever you want to know. By the way, the f150online Lightning forum is pretty much strictly GEN 2s. They don't like us GEN 1 guys over there. Go the National Lightning Owner's Club for unlimited info on these trucks. They run low 15s stock. Yes they have the 351W with hypereutectic pistons, 8.8:1 compression ratio, custom torque ground cam (marine cam grind), GT40 cast iron heads, and GT40 intake. It'll pull your stang with no problems at all. They were made in 93,94, and 95. All were speeddensity. The E303 cam WILL NOT work with the 351W. It'll throw your idle all to heck and it'll run bad to boot. If you do a cam swap that's not SD friendly then get a EEC tuner or TwEECer to tune it correctly. Mass Air conversion runs around $1000 NO JOKE. And the ones out there are crap. The only one worth anything is the Pro-M and even then you'll lose performance. They also have a tranny cooler, oil cooler, and aluminum radiators. The tranny is the heavy duty automatic E4OD with 4 inch aluminum drive shaft and a 4.10 limited slip 8.8" rear with 31-spline axles. Lightning specific 17 inch wheels with 275/60R17 inch stock tire size (lots o' meat, wide dudes). Stock factory rated at 240 hp and 340 lb/ft of torque but the hp is more closer to about 270 according to dyno tests. They are torque monsters and easy to upgrade. Mine, stock, ran a 15.3 @ 90 with a 2.3 60ft. Now if I could only hook, lol. If you need to know anything else just let me know. __________________ 1967 Mustang Coupe Last edited by 95GTS; 01-22-2003 at 09:42 PM..

01-22-2003, 09:32 PM	#7
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	Oh by the way, there are good off the shelf speeddensity cams out there. BUT the best way is to have one ground for your application so you get the most of it. Stick with speeddensity. You can run as fast you as want to with it. There's no reason to try to switch to mass air. You'll love the Lightning. You pretty much have to drive one to appreciate what all these trucks can do. Seriously, no one believes what is said about these trucks because they've never ridden or driven them. It's one of those deals where you have to drived it to believe it. Low 15s, .9 g's on the skid pad, 60-0 mph braking in only 140ft. Big brakes, stiff for-the-twisties suspension, and lots of power (especially torque which is what these 4500 pounds bricks need). __________________ 1967 Mustang Coupe Last edited by 95GTS; 01-22-2003 at 09:38 PM..

01-22-2003, 10:10 PM	#8
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	Lightning Specs from Ford SVT Check out that link for the factory specs. Also, here's a GEN 1 Lightning FAQ webpage that was put together by one of the NLOC members. Lots of good stuff on it. __________________ 1967 Mustang Coupe

01-23-2003, 01:29 PM	#9
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Man 96GTS thanks for all of that killer info. Right now I am on the hunt for my next SVT vehicle. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-23-2003, 06:17 PM	#10
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	You're welcome. Anytime. Check over in the Trucks classified forum on the NLOC site for GEN 1s for sale. Good luck finding one. They are great trucks and will look real good next to the stangs in the garage . __________________ 1967 Mustang Coupe

05-15-2003, 06:34 PM	#11
erikd93lx Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Terrytown, La. Posts: 18	They are GREAT trucks. I got rid of my '93 lx for one and I do not regret it at all even though the truck is slower. It does handle better and I can pull a boat with it without any problems. I also can drive my 4 wheeler into the bed. I couldn't do either of those with the mustang. All I can say about Gen1 lightnings is that they are the best trucks ever made in my opinion. I know I LOVE mine! __________________ '93 lx---built 331 and a bunch of stuff(gone but not forgotten) '94 white lightning, #2443 of 4007, built on april 27th, 1994. JET chip and a K&N my ride: http://community.webshots.com/album/36965548zRfjyB

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