Detroit Area Stangers?

StangFlyer · 08-25-2004, 12:19 PM

Who here is from the Detroit metro area? Just curious.

Capri306 · 08-26-2004, 03:25 AM

Hey Dan!!! I'm...um...around.

No, seriously, I'm back home in MONroe until Friday or so, then I'm moving out to Grand Rapids for a while.

drudis · 08-26-2004, 02:08 PM

Me too...

Livonia, MI.

StangFlyer · 08-26-2004, 05:15 PM

Duh! Well, I knew both of you were in the area.

Who else?

RAGE_5.0 · 08-29-2004, 08:53 PM

I'm 40 minutes over the bridge in Canada if that counts

novi408 · 08-30-2004, 11:51 AM

I am also in the area.

StangFlyer · 08-30-2004, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by novi408
I am also in the area.

Man... you're practically next door to me.

novi408 · 08-30-2004, 01:56 PM

Yep. And I work in Farmington Hills, so I can't be too far.

StangFlyer · 08-30-2004, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by novi408
Yep. And I work in Farmington Hills, so I can't be too far.

You should bring that thing over here and let's see it! I don't know anyone else locally that also has a 351 stroker with a NOVI.

Actually, that was the point of my question for this thread. I thought perhaps some of the local MW people could get together and meet.

novi408 · 08-30-2004, 02:31 PM

I have been having a few problems with it lately, I think the injectors are just too big to be controllable at low RPMs. I have 95# in there and need to get to something closer to 72# and it should be more driveable I hope. Then I need to get it on a dyno.

StangFlyer · 08-30-2004, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by novi408
I have been having a few problems with it lately, I think the injectors are just too big to be controllable at low RPMs. I have 95# in there and need to get to something closer to 72# and it should be more driveable I hope. Then I need to get it on a dyno.

I have 83# injectors in mine and it is perfectly streetable and has good driveability. Lidio Iacobelli tunes my car at Alternative Automotive. He's the man.

There's a little trick in how you set-up the MAF vs. the injectors though to getting better driveability when he programs it he had me do though.

novi408 · 08-30-2004, 02:56 PM

It could be my MAF also. I have a 107mm Bullet from Pro-M in there right now. I have a smaller (83mm I think) Pro-M style on the shelf, but haven't gotten it recal'd yet. Which EFI system are you using, or are you using the EEC-IV and a chip?

drudis · 08-30-2004, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by novi408
It could be my MAF also. I have a 107mm Bullet from Pro-M in there right now. I have a smaller (83mm I think) Pro-M style on the shelf, but haven't gotten it recal'd yet. Which EFI system are you using, or are you using the EEC-IV and a chip?

Careful if you recal the MAF for S/C specs. Pro-M adds like 10% fuel on top end (a good thing), EXCEPT...... By doing that, you lose 10% of your MAF (pegging the MAF limits). Not too bad, unless you are getting close.

novi408 · 08-30-2004, 03:11 PM

I would have it recal'd for NA as I did with the 107mm. I can put the curve directly in the EPEC and use that to enrich the fuel if I want. I would rather control my fuel with the fuel tables rather than have it baked into the MAF curve.

StangFlyer · 08-30-2004, 03:24 PM

Well, what I did is use a Pro M MAF calibrated for 60# injectors even though I'm running 80#'ers. He currects for it in the tuning calibration and it yields better driveability.

novi408 · 08-30-2004, 03:40 PM

That is basically what I can do with the EPEC, but if I have to get the meter flowed anyway, I may as well get it recal'd for something at least in the ballpark of what I have for injectors. What I don't know is if the MAF is even the problem. I seem to get a pretty decent signal from it, but my injector duty cycle is around 1.5% at idle and less than 5% at part throttle when it seems to load up and pop a bit. The plugs are just sooty after the car idles or runs at low load/rpm for a couple of minutes.

StangFlyer · 08-30-2004, 03:57 PM

I dunno... you've gotta EPEC. Rudy might be able to help you or point you in the right direction. He's running an EPEC too. I'll send him a link to the thread.

Craig Detroit · 09-18-2004, 02:54 PM

I'm over here on the Eastside!

696 and 94.

blue50lx · 09-18-2004, 06:47 PM

I'm in Warren, right off of 696

oh and do any of you know of a Mustang club in the detroit area? I've been trying to find websites and such to see if there are any (which im sure there are just don't know of any.) but hey and help or website that would lead me to a Mustang club in the area would be awesome. thanks

StangFlyer · 09-18-2004, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by blue50lx
I'm in Warren, right off of 696

oh and do any of you know of a Mustang club in the detroit area? I've been trying to find websites and such to see if there are any (which im sure there are just don't know of any.) but hey and help or website that would lead me to a Mustang club in the area would be awesome. thanks

Click on "Clubs" on the left navigation and click on Michigan on the US Map.

08-25-2004, 12:19 PM	#1
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08-26-2004, 03:25 AM	#2
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08-26-2004, 02:08 PM	#3
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08-26-2004, 05:15 PM	#4
StangFlyer Founder Join Date: Jun 1995 Location: Michigan Posts: 19,326	Duh! Well, I knew both of you were in the area. Who else? __________________ StangFlyer 1991 Mustang GT - Supercharged 377 Stroker 2000 Ford Lightning - Project Lightning Hauler Media Center Gallery - View my member photos

08-29-2004, 08:53 PM	#5
RAGE_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Leamington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 767	I'm 40 minutes over the bridge in Canada if that counts __________________ Black 1990 Cobra Mac offroad H pipe, Hooker aerochambers , k&n bunch of stuff that I'm to lazy to type out sitting in my room

08-30-2004, 11:51 AM	#6
novi408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Redford, MI Posts: 30	I am also in the area. __________________ 1988 LX Coupe, 6 pt roll bar, 408 Stroker w/ Sportsman block, TFS-R heads, GT-40 lower, sheet metal upper, Tremec TKO, Paxton Novi 2000, Paxton fuel system, EPEC, Front Coil-Overs, Tubular K-Member '03 Cobra, JLT CAI, Magnaflow catback

08-30-2004, 01:56 PM	#8
novi408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Redford, MI Posts: 30	Yep. And I work in Farmington Hills, so I can't be too far. __________________ 1988 LX Coupe, 6 pt roll bar, 408 Stroker w/ Sportsman block, TFS-R heads, GT-40 lower, sheet metal upper, Tremec TKO, Paxton Novi 2000, Paxton fuel system, EPEC, Front Coil-Overs, Tubular K-Member '03 Cobra, JLT CAI, Magnaflow catback

08-30-2004, 02:31 PM	#10
novi408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Redford, MI Posts: 30	I have been having a few problems with it lately, I think the injectors are just too big to be controllable at low RPMs. I have 95# in there and need to get to something closer to 72# and it should be more driveable I hope. Then I need to get it on a dyno. __________________ 1988 LX Coupe, 6 pt roll bar, 408 Stroker w/ Sportsman block, TFS-R heads, GT-40 lower, sheet metal upper, Tremec TKO, Paxton Novi 2000, Paxton fuel system, EPEC, Front Coil-Overs, Tubular K-Member '03 Cobra, JLT CAI, Magnaflow catback

08-30-2004, 02:56 PM	#12
novi408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Redford, MI Posts: 30	It could be my MAF also. I have a 107mm Bullet from Pro-M in there right now. I have a smaller (83mm I think) Pro-M style on the shelf, but haven't gotten it recal'd yet. Which EFI system are you using, or are you using the EEC-IV and a chip? __________________ 1988 LX Coupe, 6 pt roll bar, 408 Stroker w/ Sportsman block, TFS-R heads, GT-40 lower, sheet metal upper, Tremec TKO, Paxton Novi 2000, Paxton fuel system, EPEC, Front Coil-Overs, Tubular K-Member '03 Cobra, JLT CAI, Magnaflow catback

08-30-2004, 03:11 PM	#14
novi408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Redford, MI Posts: 30	I would have it recal'd for NA as I did with the 107mm. I can put the curve directly in the EPEC and use that to enrich the fuel if I want. I would rather control my fuel with the fuel tables rather than have it baked into the MAF curve. __________________ 1988 LX Coupe, 6 pt roll bar, 408 Stroker w/ Sportsman block, TFS-R heads, GT-40 lower, sheet metal upper, Tremec TKO, Paxton Novi 2000, Paxton fuel system, EPEC, Front Coil-Overs, Tubular K-Member '03 Cobra, JLT CAI, Magnaflow catback

08-30-2004, 03:24 PM	#15
StangFlyer Founder Join Date: Jun 1995 Location: Michigan Posts: 19,326	Well, what I did is use a Pro M MAF calibrated for 60# injectors even though I'm running 80#'ers. He currects for it in the tuning calibration and it yields better driveability. __________________ StangFlyer 1991 Mustang GT - Supercharged 377 Stroker 2000 Ford Lightning - Project Lightning Hauler Media Center Gallery - View my member photos

08-30-2004, 03:40 PM	#16
novi408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Redford, MI Posts: 30	That is basically what I can do with the EPEC, but if I have to get the meter flowed anyway, I may as well get it recal'd for something at least in the ballpark of what I have for injectors. What I don't know is if the MAF is even the problem. I seem to get a pretty decent signal from it, but my injector duty cycle is around 1.5% at idle and less than 5% at part throttle when it seems to load up and pop a bit. The plugs are just sooty after the car idles or runs at low load/rpm for a couple of minutes. __________________ 1988 LX Coupe, 6 pt roll bar, 408 Stroker w/ Sportsman block, TFS-R heads, GT-40 lower, sheet metal upper, Tremec TKO, Paxton Novi 2000, Paxton fuel system, EPEC, Front Coil-Overs, Tubular K-Member '03 Cobra, JLT CAI, Magnaflow catback

08-30-2004, 03:57 PM	#17
StangFlyer Founder Join Date: Jun 1995 Location: Michigan Posts: 19,326	I dunno... you've gotta EPEC. Rudy might be able to help you or point you in the right direction. He's running an EPEC too. I'll send him a link to the thread. __________________ StangFlyer 1991 Mustang GT - Supercharged 377 Stroker 2000 Ford Lightning - Project Lightning Hauler Media Center Gallery - View my member photos

09-18-2004, 02:54 PM	#18
Craig Detroit Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Detroit Posts: 20	I'm over here on the Eastside! 696 and 94.

09-18-2004, 06:47 PM	#19
blue50lx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 31	I'm in Warren, right off of 696 oh and do any of you know of a Mustang club in the detroit area? I've been trying to find websites and such to see if there are any (which im sure there are just don't know of any.) but hey and help or website that would lead me to a Mustang club in the area would be awesome. thanks __________________ Shes a stocker.. Last edited by blue50lx; 09-18-2004 at 07:05 PM..

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