Roll cage info, hurry and help

88workcar · 11-30-2002, 04:44 PM

I just picked up a CE 8 point roll cage. I has no plates and no instructions. How much lea-way do I have? I want to put the center bar on top of the "step" where the back seat used to be. I also want to spread the rear bars as much as possiable, and bend the arm bars agaist the door as much as possiable. What are the chances of this.

Hyper92GT · 12-01-2002, 03:51 PM

I purchased and installed a CE 8pt.
Used bent bars for the doors and placed the hoop on the floor (not on top of the ridge.) Also deleted rears and put straight bars to the frame on the hump.
Email me and i will try to dig up some pics, I think I have some of the finished product.
Remember, measure and fit 2x cut once.!!! A slight change in angle produces a huge difference in placement.
I learned the hard way.
later
Mike

drudis · 12-02-2002, 11:16 AM

Moving the main hoop onto the "step" is an excellent idea. So is makeing the horizontal bar (behind the 2 front seats) "C" chaped to allow the seat to move more rearward.
Watch how close you get to the door, as I had to "alter" the door armrests to get it right.
MANY photos here at this link:
http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/rollcage

WADS56 · 12-02-2002, 11:43 AM

Before moving the hoop anywhere I would check the NHRA rule book. As your car gets faster they lay down the law harder. I don't think moving it up on the step would make the body as stiff as it would if you put it on the floor. When welded to the floor it conectes the subframe to the cage.

88workcar · 12-02-2002, 09:10 PM

Wade, I still plan on going through the floor and tie it into the frame, and sub frame connectors. I just don't want to block off the access to the back.
Drudis, what is the cross bar between the shock towers. Where did it acually weld in.

flyin 5.8 · 12-02-2002, 09:49 PM

88 workcar this should get you there http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/r...s/mvc-140f.jpg

Darius, did you add a strap across the top of the shock tower also?

drudis · 12-02-2002, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by flyin 5.8

Darius, did you add a strap across the top of the shock tower also?

Nope, that is original part of the body. I did throw a few stitch welds on it, but thats about it.

91Saleen · 12-03-2002, 06:37 AM

88workcar, I put an S&W in my convertible. With mine the back seat is accessible, but nobody can sit there unless I drop the top, and it doesn't look very comfortable. As for the door bars, we cut the fwd end down a little bit, to make it a little easier to get in and out. But they fit snug against the doors, we didn't bend them any.

BTW, convertibles may suck, but it sure came in handy for my cage installation!

88workcar · 12-03-2002, 10:07 PM

Thanks for all the info fellas

11-30-2002, 04:44 PM	#1
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Roll cage info, hurry and help I just picked up a CE 8 point roll cage. I has no plates and no instructions. How much lea-way do I have? I want to put the center bar on top of the "step" where the back seat used to be. I also want to spread the rear bars as much as possiable, and bend the arm bars agaist the door as much as possiable. What are the chances of this. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

12-01-2002, 03:51 PM	#2
Hyper92GT slow like mud Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: toronto Posts: 180	I purchased and installed a CE 8pt. Used bent bars for the doors and placed the hoop on the floor (not on top of the ridge.) Also deleted rears and put straight bars to the frame on the hump. Email me and i will try to dig up some pics, I think I have some of the finished product. Remember, measure and fit 2x cut once.!!! A slight change in angle produces a huge difference in placement. I learned the hard way. later Mike __________________ 1992 DECH GT Not stock, still slow.

12-02-2002, 11:16 AM	#3
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	Moving the main hoop onto the "step" is an excellent idea. So is makeing the horizontal bar (behind the 2 front seats) "C" chaped to allow the seat to move more rearward. Watch how close you get to the door, as I had to "alter" the door armrests to get it right. MANY photos here at this link: http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/rollcage __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

12-02-2002, 11:43 AM	#4
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	Before moving the hoop anywhere I would check the NHRA rule book. As your car gets faster they lay down the law harder. I don't think moving it up on the step would make the body as stiff as it would if you put it on the floor. When welded to the floor it conectes the subframe to the cage. __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

12-02-2002, 09:10 PM	#5
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Wade, I still plan on going through the floor and tie it into the frame, and sub frame connectors. I just don't want to block off the access to the back. Drudis, what is the cross bar between the shock towers. Where did it acually weld in. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

12-02-2002, 09:49 PM	#6
flyin 5.8 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 73	88 workcar this should get you there http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/r...s/mvc-140f.jpg Darius, did you add a strap across the top of the shock tower also?

12-03-2002, 06:37 AM	#8
91Saleen Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Enid, Ok (originally) Posts: 98	88workcar, I put an S&W in my convertible. With mine the back seat is accessible, but nobody can sit there unless I drop the top, and it doesn't look very comfortable. As for the door bars, we cut the fwd end down a little bit, to make it a little easier to get in and out. But they fit snug against the doors, we didn't bend them any. BTW, convertibles may suck, but it sure came in handy for my cage installation! __________________ If you start to pass me, I WILL spin you out

12-03-2002, 10:07 PM	#9
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Thanks for all the info fellas __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.