Gay Marriage

[Mr 5 0]

Originally posted by mustardjohn
Maybe we could argue this from the other side for a while. If gay marriage in a legal sense is not important and dosen't affect anyone, why would someone want to have it? Normally, people want things that do matter, legally.

And lets don't argue the moral or emotional side of this lets stick to the legal side. So why would some one want to make someting that does not affect them or is not important to others legal. There must be a legal reason. What would it be?

Recognizing same-sex relationships as a legal marrige would open up the distinct possibility of the hypothetically now-legally married gay 'couple' sharing health insurance benefits (as a 'spouse'), bereavement leave, life insurance, annuity and pension rights, housing rights (such as rent-control apartments), adoption and inheritance rights. federal income tax and veterans' benefits as well as accumulated frequent-flier points, I would assume. Of course, same-sex couples could also be divorced with alimony and child custody issues following, just as with hetrosexual marriages.

The real goal for homosexuals isn't to be legally married (few have taken advantage of the opportunity in Vermont) but for forced social as well as legal acceptance of homosexuality on a hetrosexual populace via unelected judges making law from the bench with no input from those it's imposed on. The 97 -98% hetrosexual population tolerates homosexuality and homosexuals as individuals with the same rights as anyone else but generally is repulsed by it once you get past the platitudes about 'love' and realize exactly what it is gays do 'in the privacy of their own home' not to mention the much lesser privacy of men's rooms, bathhouses and bus stations. Homosexuality adds big health risks to a persons life and while being 'married' would add many financial and social benefits to their lives, civil unions could do the same - but most gays don't want that. They want the 'marriage' label and by receiving it, de facto recognition of what they do as 'normal' and accepted by society. I get that but it does nothing for the 98% of us who are not homosexual and don't believe that 'marriage' means in any way two guys sodomizing each other and looking for a kid to adopt because they can't make one and yet want to play daddy.

There are legal advantages to marriage but few hetrosexuals marry for financial benefits and, contrary to what some think, there is no 'right' to marry. It's simply recognized as the legal joining of two people, a man and a woman, in matrimony. After all the smoke and shouting is over, that crystal clear fact remains what every culture and every people have always known and acted on. Unfortunately, years of gay-friendly propaganda and a need to do what they think is PC and socially acceptable (as well as gain PC brownie points for sneering at assumed 'bigots' who disagree with them) many folks refuse to admit the simple logic of this and continue to champion 'gay marriage'. They go from pure emotionism to fantasy to nasty, anti-religion insults in their defense of this absurd concept all because they think it has no consequence and: "won't affect me one iota". They're mistaken but that never stopped anyone when their proclaimed 'open-mindedness' appears to be cost-free and makes them feel all warm and tingley for 'supporting' something they really are repulsed by in it's physical manifestation.

I have no doubt that this debate is far from over no matter what eventually happens in Massachusetts.