Well, with all the rice talk lately.......

[Old Guy with 87 GT]

i usually consider the talons and eclipes as formadable oponants........i have a friend with an eclipes ,it's an all wheel drive with a huge custom managed turbo .......the thing would probly run low 11s maybe 10s.......i rode in it like a week ago things a monster.........it's not modded apearance wise other then nice paint and clean appearance............ ,if you don't notice the huge intercooler in the front ,he'll totally suprise you as he hands your ....*** on the street..........i think it's neat technically ....i was helping him the other day with it and he was telling me about the water injection.......i was like huh ......he injects water in the intake to reduce detonation at higher boosts.....thought that was a cool idea .......there's alot to learn when it comes to the 4 banger crowd ..........it just usally costs alot more when they break em .....plus it's alot harder to fix em ,those eclipes have a pretty tight engine compartment..........a car like that i don't really think of when the word ricer comes up .........it is an import though