Clones or Replicas - Page 2

11-22-2002, 09:59 PM

Here's what bothers me about phonies:

My 1989 Turbo T/A is a real pace car, here's why; It was chosen by Indy from the 1550 identical cars. The only differences are Indy required safety equipent (which I installed). In actuality, my car could pace an Indy race today. I don't claim it's the actual pace car, but when people ask if it's a real pace car I say YES. The decals were optional for the owner to apply at their descretion and came with the car.

With all this in mind would you consider it real?....

srv1 · 11-22-2002, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
I can agree with 99% of what's said here and I gather the consensus of opinions indicates it's ok as long as someone doesn't try to pass it off as the "real deal".

That's cool....

just like you! hahaha!

93calcobra · 11-26-2002, 01:51 PM

im ok with clones too, as long as they are exact, original shelby cobra's are expensive and not alot of people can afford them so what do you do ? build a clone nothing wrong with that

this is not cbring · 11-30-2002, 10:49 AM

when shopping for a muscle car, i spotted at least 6 clones that were passed off as the real thing.......a challenger with r/t badges, a skylark with gs badges (though it had all the gs goodies), a 6 cylinder mustang painted up like a mach 1, and 3 chevy's ss clones...............3 of the 6 owners flat out lied about the cars, 3 fessed up to being a clone

so i don't think it is really a "rice" thing..........

i may put a "turbo" badge from a porsche 911 turbo on my volkswagen.........it isn't a factory badge, but it isn't misleading......it'll say "turbo" and i've got a turbo

NYC1 · 12-09-2002, 10:34 AM

I voted: as long as it looks good

When I first saw this post, I thought it was mainly referring to cars like Vetts and Fieros and Mustangs being converted into Lamborghini's and Ferrari's.

So if you put Cobra R rims on a car, are you a fake or lame if you don't have a Cobra R? I agree with people that said if you don't pass off your car to be what it looks like, it's cool. I have a Cobra bumper because my original was damaged and I personally liked the looks of it over the GT bumper and just replaced it with a Cobra bumper. I also have Cobra emblems on the sides and front of my GT, mainly because I'm know as the snake man. Not by the car, but because I collect snakes. People always ask me if my car is a Cobra. I always tell them that it's a GT.

I voted: as long as it looks good

So IMO, as long as someone doesn't try to pass it off as the "real deal".

Rice Hunter · 12-10-2002, 12:38 AM

Well, my favorite mustang is the 1969 boss 429. I would love to have one, but would rather have a replica. I would not be able to take the real thing out of my garage

. If it were the replica, then I would have the look, sound, *soul* of the original, and it could be driven. With that said. I would call it a boss 429 replica.

Snakeman · 12-12-2002, 01:13 PM

Quote:

I'm know as the snake man.

funny coincidence!
me too!

I have collected snakes most of my life, I always wanted a car with a snake on it, especially when i saw a beautiful red GT500KR while attending school in Encino, CA. it had this great snake, and screen in front of the intake. it was the first time i had ever seen anything so beautiful without tits!

I finally got my cobra (no, not a shelby

)and it's REAL!

I saw a v6 mustang with 4.6l badges
WTF?
so what if it dyno'd 250 HP it isn't a 4.6!

NYC1 · 12-12-2002, 01:29 PM

What kind of snakes do you have?

I have an albino Burmese Python, and a Pine snake right now.

Snakeman · 12-14-2002, 01:01 AM

i used to breed osborne high yellow kingsnakes, albino bullsnakes, 50/50 cal kings, thayer's kings, etc.

staticfade2 · 12-21-2002, 07:10 PM

I think as long as it looks good, But I also agree with the people that say ite lame to try and pass it for "real" I personally Love the Cobra front fascia and Hood, and I plan on installing both on My 97 I currently have a saleen S281 wing on My car does that mean I am trying to fake a saleen? Nope I like the look of the wing so I put it on , Now if someone were to say install a cobra fascia, wing snake emblems and all the things that make a cobra a cobra onto a GT just because they liked the way it looks I don't see anything wrong with it as long as they don't pose and try and claim its real. a Good friend of mine has a 95 GT and has a saleen heat extractor hood, cobra fascia and headlights, Boss Shinoda rear wing and roush side exaust kit on it also sports Cobra R's for wheels The car Looks awesome and we lovingly refer to it as the "Muttstang"

sn95gt19 · 12-23-2002, 11:52 AM

i think its ok as long as you do the whole deal, if you put cobra badges on a gt, while still having everything else gt, or putting gt badges on a 6 cyl, while only having one tailpipe. thats stupid. but if you look in my sig you will see my 95GT which is now a 98 cobra clone, i did everything from calipers, front cover, rear cover, hood, oem cobra cluster, rims, taillights. everything. now the only thing that doesnt match up is the 347 under the hood.

ultraflo · 12-25-2002, 01:09 AM

Fine and dandy with me... as long as the nut behind the wheel doesn't claim it as 'authentic.'

The Shelby Cobra kit cars come to mind as an awesome rendering of the originals.

ac97gt · 06-25-2003, 11:23 PM

as long as you dont do this or this ... its a damn 6cyl! who does that? rofl, i voted "lame" or whatever option that was, because when i think of replicas all i can think of is that car and ones like it. and you know he tries to pass it off as a cobra, come on! i do agree though, as long as you arent trying to make your car out to be something it isnt, its cool. like if you wanna buy cobra R rims or saleen ground effects, go for it! but personally i think adding things like the saleen decals are way overboard if you dont own a saleen. just my opinion anyway

Axman · 06-26-2003, 09:49 AM

Personally I'd rather create a car that never existed. For instance, a 73 Vega SS 350 or a 78 Pinto GT 5.0. That way you'd have a car that was unique. Then there's cars that the manufacturers should never had attempted. I'm talking about things like Plymouth's Voyager SS mini-van and Yugo's GT.

daveGT · 06-26-2003, 12:09 PM

Wheels, bumper covers, wings, etc. = cool, go for it! Everyone needs to customize. Saleen bumper covers, for instance, RULE!

Cobra fender emblems, etc. = Okay, as long as you have something to back it up! Please don't put it on a 6 cyl. PLEASE.

Graphics = LAME, don't do it.

That's my .02

Mass Stang · 06-26-2003, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by daveGT
Wheels, bumper covers, wings, etc. = cool, go for it! Everyone needs to customize. Saleen bumper covers, for instance, RULE!

Cobra fender emblems, etc. = Okay, as long as you have something to back it up! Please don't put it on a 6 cyl. PLEASE.

Graphics = LAME, don't do it.

That's my .02

I agree 100%. I have a Saleen wing, but I am not trying to pass it off as a Saleen. I just like the looks.

bigdaddy3312 · 06-26-2003, 01:51 PM

i put roh snypers,no emblems,lowered and tinted,no stripes,and new this weekend with the help of mass stang black headlights and markers...........stainless pipes...thats it for the mods on the out side,simepl can be better!!!!!! no faggy graphics,or junk...........just clean and mean lil buddy! there in a sn 95 style 6 cyl running round here with alll these goofy ground effects and a big cobra in the window....goofy as s h i t!!!!!! and slower that mole asses in winter!

bri32zz · 06-26-2003, 02:10 PM

I think faking is DUMB! I see v-6 Stangs all over town with dual exhuast and Cobra emblems all of the time. And Every Honda is a Type-R. personaly I like the way the factory makes cars. Changing the looks is just wrong in my opinion. Why fix something that is not broken

ac97gt · 06-26-2003, 03:40 PM

a kid i always see at school drives a green mustang v6 either 99 or 00, and he put a 2000 cobra R wing on it. his wheels are just the stock hubcaps and i dont know the car just looks awful with the cobra R wing on it... it doesnt fit at all, and makes it seem likes hes trying to pass his car off as a fast agressive mustang/cobra, which it isnt. everytime i see it, i want to throw up.

Axman · 06-26-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ac97gt
a kid i always see at school drives a green mustang v6 either 99 or 00, and he put a 2000 cobra R wing on it. his wheels are just the stock hubcaps and i dont know the car just looks awful with the cobra R wing on it... it doesnt fit at all, and makes it seem likes hes trying to pass his car off as a fast agressive mustang/cobra, which it isnt. everytime i see it, i want to throw up.

Sounds like a wanna be ricer!

11-22-2002, 09:59 PM	#21
20LbsBoost Guest Posts: n/a	Here's what bothers me about phonies: My 1989 Turbo T/A is a real pace car, here's why; It was chosen by Indy from the 1550 identical cars. The only differences are Indy required safety equipent (which I installed). In actuality, my car could pace an Indy race today. I don't claim it's the actual pace car, but when people ask if it's a real pace car I say YES. The decals were optional for the owner to apply at their descretion and came with the car. With all this in mind would you consider it real?.... Last edited by 20LbsBoost; 11-23-2002 at 06:40 PM..

11-26-2002, 01:51 PM	#23
93calcobra Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: sacramento california Posts: 97	im ok with clones too, as long as they are exact, original shelby cobra's are expensive and not alot of people can afford them so what do you do ? build a clone nothing wrong with that __________________ 1993 red cobra 1999 ford lightning 1999 bmw 3m 2003 lincoln ls

11-30-2002, 10:49 AM	#24
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	when shopping for a muscle car, i spotted at least 6 clones that were passed off as the real thing.......a challenger with r/t badges, a skylark with gs badges (though it had all the gs goodies), a 6 cylinder mustang painted up like a mach 1, and 3 chevy's ss clones...............3 of the 6 owners flat out lied about the cars, 3 fessed up to being a clone so i don't think it is really a "rice" thing.......... i may put a "turbo" badge from a porsche 911 turbo on my volkswagen.........it isn't a factory badge, but it isn't misleading......it'll say "turbo" and i've got a turbo __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

12-09-2002, 10:34 AM	#25
NYC1 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 169	I voted: as long as it looks good When I first saw this post, I thought it was mainly referring to cars like Vetts and Fieros and Mustangs being converted into Lamborghini's and Ferrari's. So if you put Cobra R rims on a car, are you a fake or lame if you don't have a Cobra R? I agree with people that said if you don't pass off your car to be what it looks like, it's cool. I have a Cobra bumper because my original was damaged and I personally liked the looks of it over the GT bumper and just replaced it with a Cobra bumper. I also have Cobra emblems on the sides and front of my GT, mainly because I'm know as the snake man. Not by the car, but because I collect snakes. People always ask me if my car is a Cobra. I always tell them that it's a GT. I voted: as long as it looks good So IMO, as long as someone doesn't try to pass it off as the "real deal". __________________ 94GT 5spd Coupe 1/4 = 13.6@103 60ft = 2.0315 on Michelin Pilots GT 40 Intake GT 40Y Aluminum heads 1.7 rockers, BBK Cold air Fluidyne, BBK long tubes & H-Pipe 65mm TB Al Driveshaft Hurst Shifter Cobra R hood HPM Subframes Control Arms Future mods = Procharger and/or 331/347 Stroker, Turbo? Rice Haters Club Member #77 FOR SALE: Strut Tower Brace $30

12-10-2002, 12:38 AM	#26
Rice Hunter Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The special place in your heart Posts: 388	Well, my favorite mustang is the 1969 boss 429. I would love to have one, but would rather have a replica. I would not be able to take the real thing out of my garage . If it were the replica, then I would have the look, sound, soul of the original, and it could be driven. With that said. I would call it a boss 429 replica. __________________ Scott 453.9rwhp 387trq Lots of fun Convertible Penn State University Temple University School of Medicine (start August 27th )

12-12-2002, 01:29 PM	#28
NYC1 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 169	What kind of snakes do you have? I have an albino Burmese Python, and a Pine snake right now. __________________ 94GT 5spd Coupe 1/4 = 13.6@103 60ft = 2.0315 on Michelin Pilots GT 40 Intake GT 40Y Aluminum heads 1.7 rockers, BBK Cold air Fluidyne, BBK long tubes & H-Pipe 65mm TB Al Driveshaft Hurst Shifter Cobra R hood HPM Subframes Control Arms Future mods = Procharger and/or 331/347 Stroker, Turbo? Rice Haters Club Member #77 FOR SALE: Strut Tower Brace $30

12-14-2002, 01:01 AM	#29
Snakeman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Grass Valley, CA, USA Posts: 1,389	none at the moment... i used to breed osborne high yellow kingsnakes, albino bullsnakes, 50/50 cal kings, thayer's kings, etc. __________________ LX ~vs~ Camaro

12-21-2002, 07:10 PM	#30
staticfade2 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 13	I think as long as it looks good, But I also agree with the people that say ite lame to try and pass it for "real" I personally Love the Cobra front fascia and Hood, and I plan on installing both on My 97 I currently have a saleen S281 wing on My car does that mean I am trying to fake a saleen? Nope I like the look of the wing so I put it on , Now if someone were to say install a cobra fascia, wing snake emblems and all the things that make a cobra a cobra onto a GT just because they liked the way it looks I don't see anything wrong with it as long as they don't pose and try and claim its real. a Good friend of mine has a 95 GT and has a saleen heat extractor hood, cobra fascia and headlights, Boss Shinoda rear wing and roush side exaust kit on it also sports Cobra R's for wheels The car Looks awesome and we lovingly refer to it as the "Muttstang"

12-23-2002, 11:52 AM	#31
sn95gt19 motors done......woohooo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 799	i think its ok as long as you do the whole deal, if you put cobra badges on a gt, while still having everything else gt, or putting gt badges on a 6 cyl, while only having one tailpipe. thats stupid. but if you look in my sig you will see my 95GT which is now a 98 cobra clone, i did everything from calipers, front cover, rear cover, hood, oem cobra cluster, rims, taillights. everything. now the only thing that doesnt match up is the 347 under the hood. __________________ 95gt lazer red (98 cobra clone) Rice Haters Club Member #116

12-25-2002, 01:09 AM	#32
ultraflo NX dealer-man Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Peoria, Illinois Posts: 977	Fine and dandy with me... as long as the nut behind the wheel doesn't claim it as 'authentic.' The Shelby Cobra kit cars come to mind as an awesome rendering of the originals. __________________ RLS Racing! 93 LX 9.20 @ 147mph 03 Mach 1 12.39 @ 116mph

06-25-2003, 11:23 PM	#33
ac97gt Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia (DC) Posts: 232	as long as you dont do this or this ... its a damn 6cyl! who does that? rofl, i voted "lame" or whatever option that was, because when i think of replicas all i can think of is that car and ones like it. and you know he tries to pass it off as a cobra, come on! i do agree though, as long as you arent trying to make your car out to be something it isnt, its cool. like if you wanna buy cobra R rims or saleen ground effects, go for it! but personally i think adding things like the saleen decals are way overboard if you dont own a saleen. just my opinion anyway __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "Pacific Green" Flowmasters Bassani X w/cats Steeda Triax K&N and Air Intake Silencer Removed More to come with money! My Ride

06-26-2003, 09:49 AM	#34
Axman Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kingman, AZ Posts: 90	Personally I'd rather create a car that never existed. For instance, a 73 Vega SS 350 or a 78 Pinto GT 5.0. That way you'd have a car that was unique. Then there's cars that the manufacturers should never had attempted. I'm talking about things like Plymouth's Voyager SS mini-van and Yugo's GT. __________________ Rice Hater's Club member #213 "If you've got it, get more, then flaunt it!" "...More power, arr arr!" --Tim Allen 1992 LX convertible, 2.3L 165 hp, I can't get it from the wife.. 1983 Chevy S-10, 2.8L engine, T4 trans, my daily driver. 1973 VW Beetle, 1.6L engine 57 hp. 1979 Chevy Malibu Wagon, 305/350, 250 hp more on the way. 1978 Honda Frankencivic CVCC, Ford 460 big block, C6 trans, currently rated @208 hp more on the way. Last edited by Axman; 06-26-2003 at 09:55 AM..

06-26-2003, 12:09 PM	#35
daveGT Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sarcoxie, MO, USA Posts: 80	Wheels, bumper covers, wings, etc. = cool, go for it! Everyone needs to customize. Saleen bumper covers, for instance, RULE! Cobra fender emblems, etc. = Okay, as long as you have something to back it up! Please don't put it on a 6 cyl. PLEASE. Graphics = LAME, don't do it. That's my .02 __________________ '99 Cobra Red, stock so far, except for Steeda Tri-ax, Bassani X pipe, Recaro seats, and tint. '94 Lightning: White, stock except 50 series Flowmasters '99 GT (wife's): Chrome yellow, stock with some pretty slick "flame" pinstripes!

06-26-2003, 01:51 PM	#37
bigdaddy3312 Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: massachusettes Posts: 29	i put roh snypers,no emblems,lowered and tinted,no stripes,and new this weekend with the help of mass stang black headlights and markers...........stainless pipes...thats it for the mods on the out side,simepl can be better!!!!!! no faggy graphics,or junk...........just clean and mean lil buddy! there in a sn 95 style 6 cyl running round here with alll these goofy ground effects and a big cobra in the window....goofy as s h i t!!!!!! and slower that mole asses in winter!

06-26-2003, 02:10 PM	#38
bri32zz Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canton GA Posts: 216	I think faking is DUMB! I see v-6 Stangs all over town with dual exhuast and Cobra emblems all of the time. And Every Honda is a Type-R. personaly I like the way the factory makes cars. Changing the looks is just wrong in my opinion. Why fix something that is not broken __________________ My CAR IS GONE R.I.P----I miss YOU 331ci, 69 Windsor heads ported and shaved , Trick Flow-Intake ported,JE blower pistons, Custom cam 542 lift, 1.73 rrs, Equal length headers, BBK Hi-Flow cats, Hurst shifter, 3:73 gears, Tremec 3550 tranny,Lakewood drag suspension-90/10 in front and 50/50 in the back. Lakewood traction bars. Edelbrock 70mm tb, K&N filter, Kirban fuel reguator, Custom sub-Frame connectors,83 lb squirters, powerdyne blower with 12psi pulley, http://www.pumpoperators.com/brian/ Rice Haters Club Member #82 My wife is AWSOME!!!!!!!!

06-26-2003, 03:40 PM	#39
ac97gt Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia (DC) Posts: 232	a kid i always see at school drives a green mustang v6 either 99 or 00, and he put a 2000 cobra R wing on it. his wheels are just the stock hubcaps and i dont know the car just looks awful with the cobra R wing on it... it doesnt fit at all, and makes it seem likes hes trying to pass his car off as a fast agressive mustang/cobra, which it isnt. everytime i see it, i want to throw up. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "Pacific Green" Flowmasters Bassani X w/cats Steeda Triax K&N and Air Intake Silencer Removed More to come with money! My Ride

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