How to pass emissions with X cam

mustangLX92 · 06-28-2001, 08:20 AM

What can I do to pass emissions with an X cam? Will putting alchohol in my tank hurt anything. What else could I do?

Smokedawg · 06-28-2001, 08:27 AM

I dont think you have a chance in he1l to pass emissions with that cam..

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

[This message has been edited by Smokedawg (edited 06-28-2001).]

mustangLX92 · 06-28-2001, 08:40 AM

When I bought the car i was told it had an X cam. What is the easiest when to find out what kind of cam it is?

jimberg · 06-28-2001, 08:54 AM

Go take the emissions test and worry about it if you fail. If you fail, what you fail will give a better idea what you need to do to fix it.

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351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

dinomite · 06-28-2001, 10:44 AM

Ya, go take the test and see what happens. I would say just pull an injector, thats the easiest way to pass.

mustangLX92 · 06-28-2001, 10:57 AM

I live about 20 min away from the inspection station. can I drive that far with a pulled
injector.

How well does this work?

06-28-2001, 01:10 PM

My first inspection after my E cam install....I blew a 2035. Only about 1700 over the legal limit. You've got no choice. Or, do like I did, and move to a county that has no emissions

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts);
30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113)

Harry · 06-28-2001, 01:22 PM

bada$$lx, why did you fail with an "E" cam? I thought those were supposed to be Ford's high performance, emissions legal cam?

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See my 1985 Mustang GT

89 Cobra LX · 06-28-2001, 01:26 PM

bada$$lx - Did you have cats when you took the test? You're garunteed to fail without them.

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Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe
302 - Cobra Intake - GT40p heads - TFS stage 1 cam - FRPP 1.6 roller rockers - Naturally Aspirated
3:73 gears - KYB shocks and struts - Eibach springs - HPM Mega-bite Jr lower control arms - HPM upper control arms

over 40 five oh driver · 06-28-2001, 05:48 PM

I'm not sure why there is so much concern over passing emissions testing. I am in Harris County Texas (Houston), which has fairly strict sniffer tests, and I have passed emissions for years here with no problem. My previous car was a 91' LX Coupe with Edelbrock heads, GT-40 U/L, BBK 70mm TB, PRO-M 75mm MAF, and E-303 with shorty headers, BBK 2.5" H-pipe WITH catalytic converters, and Flow Master cat-back. Absolutely no problems passing emissions with 40 psi fuel pressure, 24 PPH injectors, and 14 degrees timing.

Current car passed with 106,000 mile motor with TFS-TW heads, Edelbrock Peformer U/L, 30# injectors, 65mm TB, PRO-M 80mm, and a custom grind Cam Motions "Solid Roller" cam with .561" lift int/exh, 230/236 duration @ .050" lift. This was with 42 psi fuel pressure, 15 degrees timing with FRPP shorty headers and Bassani X-pipe WITH catalytic converters, and Bassani cat-back. It passed in December 2000 with new Keith Craft 306, heads milled to bring up the CR to about 10.25:1, and CompCams XE274 with .555/.565" lift. It was so clean the guy thought his equipment was not hooked up properly so they ran the test again...same low numbers. They couldn't believe it! If you have the car in a good state of tune, good sensors, and run good set of cats...you should not have any problem at all passing even with the X-303.

As a side note, mine MAY run cleaner with the MSD-6AL also, but I cannot prove this. If the stock ignition system is in good shape, it should be fine on emissions testing also.

Hope this helps as far as what mods I had and how well I passed. I know other guys in the area also running real healthy 5.0's with more static CR and they too pass with no problems. Good luck...

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92'GT, Keith Craft Racing 306 (10.25:1 CR), PRO-M 80mm MAF,65MM TB, Edelbrock U/L intake,
TFS-TW heads milled/ported, CompCams XE274HR (.555/.565" lift w/1.6 rockers), A-351 adjustable roller rockers, 30# injectors,
Kirban FPR w/external pump, FRPP ceramic coated headers, Bassani X-pipe w/cats, Bassani cat back, Centerforce DF clutch/T.O. bearing...MSD 6AL w/MSD distributor, Steeda Tri axe, aluminum D/S, 3.73's, w/Factory Five U/L control arms. Lakewood 50/50 shocks. Steeda Front Drag swa

jimberg · 06-28-2001, 08:17 PM

You guys can see what I have from my sig and I pass just fine (better than my wife's V6 Prope). I have no idea why bada$$lx would fail with e-303.

Back to mustangLX92's problem. Forget pulling an injector. Just go take the test and see if you pass or fail. It's not like they'll wisk you off to jail or something if you fail. Just make sure you're running with 10 degrees timing and 87 octane. I hope you have cats and a working air pump, too.

If you do fail, you're in a better position as to what to do about it.

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351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

stangbang · 06-29-2001, 02:14 AM

were i live the emissions test is performed under load on a dyno.i have the holley systemaxII kit and the cam is not emissions legal,however i passed the test well under the allowable limits. i have bbk full length headers and hi-flow cats. take the test and see if you pass,i think theres a good chance it will.

red82gt · 06-29-2001, 02:53 AM

Are ethanol blended fuels available in the states? Down in Vancouver I've seen some pretty sick combinations pass the aircare test with a 10% ethanol blended 94 octane with plenty of room to spare.

06-29-2001, 04:24 PM

Sorry guys (my bad)....... I forgot to mention I was cat-less too

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts);
30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113)

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06-28-2001, 08:27 AM	#2
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	I dont think you have a chance in he1l to pass emissions with that cam.. ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del. [This message has been edited by Smokedawg (edited 06-28-2001).]

06-28-2001, 08:40 AM	#3
mustangLX92 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 138	When I bought the car i was told it had an X cam. What is the easiest when to find out what kind of cam it is?

06-28-2001, 08:54 AM	#4
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	Go take the emissions test and worry about it if you fail. If you fail, what you fail will give a better idea what you need to do to fix it. ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

06-28-2001, 10:44 AM	#5
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	Ya, go take the test and see what happens. I would say just pull an injector, thats the easiest way to pass.

06-28-2001, 10:57 AM	#6
mustangLX92 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 138	I live about 20 min away from the inspection station. can I drive that far with a pulled injector. How well does this work?

06-28-2001, 01:10 PM	#7
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	My first inspection after my E cam install....I blew a 2035. Only about 1700 over the legal limit. You've got no choice. Or, do like I did, and move to a county that has no emissions ! ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113)

06-28-2001, 01:22 PM	#8
Harry Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Dayton, OH USA Posts: 678	bada$$lx, why did you fail with an "E" cam? I thought those were supposed to be Ford's high performance, emissions legal cam? ------------------ See my 1985 Mustang GT

06-28-2001, 01:26 PM	#9
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	bada$$lx - Did you have cats when you took the test? You're garunteed to fail without them. ------------------ Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe 302 - Cobra Intake - GT40p heads - TFS stage 1 cam - FRPP 1.6 roller rockers - Naturally Aspirated 3:73 gears - KYB shocks and struts - Eibach springs - HPM Mega-bite Jr lower control arms - HPM upper control arms

06-28-2001, 05:48 PM	#10
over 40 five oh driver Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 278	I'm not sure why there is so much concern over passing emissions testing. I am in Harris County Texas (Houston), which has fairly strict sniffer tests, and I have passed emissions for years here with no problem. My previous car was a 91' LX Coupe with Edelbrock heads, GT-40 U/L, BBK 70mm TB, PRO-M 75mm MAF, and E-303 with shorty headers, BBK 2.5" H-pipe WITH catalytic converters, and Flow Master cat-back. Absolutely no problems passing emissions with 40 psi fuel pressure, 24 PPH injectors, and 14 degrees timing. Current car passed with 106,000 mile motor with TFS-TW heads, Edelbrock Peformer U/L, 30# injectors, 65mm TB, PRO-M 80mm, and a custom grind Cam Motions "Solid Roller" cam with .561" lift int/exh, 230/236 duration @ .050" lift. This was with 42 psi fuel pressure, 15 degrees timing with FRPP shorty headers and Bassani X-pipe WITH catalytic converters, and Bassani cat-back. It passed in December 2000 with new Keith Craft 306, heads milled to bring up the CR to about 10.25:1, and CompCams XE274 with .555/.565" lift. It was so clean the guy thought his equipment was not hooked up properly so they ran the test again...same low numbers. They couldn't believe it! If you have the car in a good state of tune, good sensors, and run good set of cats...you should not have any problem at all passing even with the X-303. As a side note, mine MAY run cleaner with the MSD-6AL also, but I cannot prove this. If the stock ignition system is in good shape, it should be fine on emissions testing also. Hope this helps as far as what mods I had and how well I passed. I know other guys in the area also running real healthy 5.0's with more static CR and they too pass with no problems. Good luck... ------------------ 92'GT, Keith Craft Racing 306 (10.25:1 CR), PRO-M 80mm MAF,65MM TB, Edelbrock U/L intake, TFS-TW heads milled/ported, CompCams XE274HR (.555/.565" lift w/1.6 rockers), A-351 adjustable roller rockers, 30# injectors, Kirban FPR w/external pump, FRPP ceramic coated headers, Bassani X-pipe w/cats, Bassani cat back, Centerforce DF clutch/T.O. bearing...MSD 6AL w/MSD distributor, Steeda Tri axe, aluminum D/S, 3.73's, w/Factory Five U/L control arms. Lakewood 50/50 shocks. Steeda Front Drag swa

06-28-2001, 08:17 PM	#11
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	You guys can see what I have from my sig and I pass just fine (better than my wife's V6 Prope). I have no idea why bada$$lx would fail with e-303. Back to mustangLX92's problem. Forget pulling an injector. Just go take the test and see if you pass or fail. It's not like they'll wisk you off to jail or something if you fail. Just make sure you're running with 10 degrees timing and 87 octane. I hope you have cats and a working air pump, too. If you do fail, you're in a better position as to what to do about it. ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

06-29-2001, 02:14 AM	#12
stangbang Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: brunswick,ohio Posts: 135	were i live the emissions test is performed under load on a dyno.i have the holley systemaxII kit and the cam is not emissions legal,however i passed the test well under the allowable limits. i have bbk full length headers and hi-flow cats. take the test and see if you pass,i think theres a good chance it will.

06-29-2001, 02:53 AM	#13
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	Are ethanol blended fuels available in the states? Down in Vancouver I've seen some pretty sick combinations pass the aircare test with a 10% ethanol blended 94 octane with plenty of room to spare.

06-29-2001, 04:24 PM	#14
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	Sorry guys (my bad)....... I forgot to mention I was cat-less too ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113)