Jury Convicts Drag Racers

05-20-2003, 07:15 PM

Jury rejects murder charges and convicts pair of manslaughter:

http://www.courttv.com/trials/dragrace/051903_ctv.html

Jaegermeister2k · 05-20-2003, 07:27 PM

I know we all like to step on it from time to time,but racing should be kept on the track to prevent things like that to happen.

Rev · 05-20-2003, 07:52 PM

I think the manslaughter conviction is more reasonable than a murder conviction. It'll be interesting what punishment they get. Maybe somene can post that when it's determined.

Rev

05-20-2003, 08:09 PM

Will do, I'm keeping an eye on this.

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 05-21-2003, 04:32 AM

I dont think murder is justified because it wasnt premeditated

BilLster · 05-21-2003, 05:14 PM

thats kinda sticky cause where i live premeditated is having those10 beers and then driving or when you decided to race.its the act of knowingly doing something illegal, robbing a bank and killing a gaurd shown this type of link if you plan to rob the bank you must of thought it through including the killing , ive back off of lots of street races because i knerw someone may get hurt or even killed because of what i was doing.

but its all kinda mute as we arent on the jury and dont know all the details.

sometimes it amazes me when someone who murders someone premeditively get out in like 10 years and say these guys could get more time depending on the sentencing.

BilLster · 05-21-2003, 05:17 PM

The conviction on gross vehicular manslaughter means Waller, 32, faces about seven years in prison and Calhoun, who was not directly involved in the crash, but fled the scene, faces about 12 years in prison

so they guy who left is facing longer time than the guy who manslaughtered them. ??????

05-21-2003, 08:15 PM

The 7yrs vs. 12yrs is kind of misleading. The 12 yrs is calculated because he was convicted of more crimes (leaving the scene). I presume the crash was worth 7 yrs and leaving the scene was worth 5 years. Most sentences are concurrent which means they're run together and not consecutively (back to back). So, they say 12 years which is the grand total but most likely Calhoun will get out earlier via parole because he didn't directly cause the deaths whereas Waller did. Parole boards take the circumstances of the crimes committed when considering petitions for release on parole.

Dark_5.0 · 05-22-2003, 11:17 AM

"Got NOS?, you may as well add neons, wing and carbon fibre hood too"
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This is off topic but that may be the dumbest thing I have ever read on this board.

05-22-2003, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
"Got NOS?, you may as well add neons, wing and carbon fibre hood too"
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This is off topic but that may be the dumbest thing I have ever read on this board.

That's EXACTLY why it's there.

blue oval 50h · 05-23-2003, 11:59 PM

If bottles are for babies, why did i just spank your azz???

05-24-2003, 04:00 PM

Fox Body · 05-26-2003, 10:19 PM

....Very sad story.

Thanks for the updates 20LbsBoost

Special K · 07-22-2003, 05:44 PM

Those guys are street racers not drag racers.

Snakeman · 10-23-2003, 11:23 AM

'cuda gonna win every time...
buy your kids big old, heavy cars, not recycled-metal foreign crap...

i agree, drag racing is done at the track.

Special K · 10-23-2003, 12:48 PM

Holy tread resurrection batman!

T5superduty · 10-23-2003, 03:32 PM

Sorry but I think they should have paid for what they did at least the one that was driving " waller" He killed two people guys come on. Ya he didnt mean to do it but christ when people street race they have to be carefull about shitt. If there was a car on either side of the race then ya gotta think" oh ok something bad could happen here mabye I should stop" You would all be saying he deserves a conviction if you knew those people. The other dude doesnt deserve anything though

The Deuce · 10-25-2003, 03:07 PM

Here's a question no one has addressed yet.

Who had the right of way?

Seems to me she didn't

Skyman · 10-25-2003, 03:44 PM

Thats what I said!!

The Deuce · 10-25-2003, 10:29 PM

I think its sad when two people die and two more go to prison all because someone didn't properly yield the right of way.

Had they all lived (and not been racing) SHE would have gotten the ticket.

05-20-2003, 07:15 PM	#1
20LbsBoost Guest Posts: n/a	Jury Convicts Drag Racers Jury rejects murder charges and convicts pair of manslaughter: http://www.courttv.com/trials/dragrace/051903_ctv.html

05-20-2003, 07:52 PM	#3
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Punishment phase of trial? I think the manslaughter conviction is more reasonable than a murder conviction. It'll be interesting what punishment they get. Maybe somene can post that when it's determined. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

05-21-2003, 04:32 AM	#5
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	I dont think murder is justified because it wasnt premeditated __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

05-21-2003, 05:14 PM	#6
BilLster Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ontario canada Posts: 446	thats kinda sticky cause where i live premeditated is having those10 beers and then driving or when you decided to race.its the act of knowingly doing something illegal, robbing a bank and killing a gaurd shown this type of link if you plan to rob the bank you must of thought it through including the killing , ive back off of lots of street races because i knerw someone may get hurt or even killed because of what i was doing. but its all kinda mute as we arent on the jury and dont know all the details. sometimes it amazes me when someone who murders someone premeditively get out in like 10 years and say these guys could get more time depending on the sentencing. __________________ 89 with 331 t3'/t4 hybrids. upr Suspention worked out finnaly . 9.89 144 mph .

05-21-2003, 05:17 PM	#7
BilLster Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ontario canada Posts: 446	The conviction on gross vehicular manslaughter means Waller, 32, faces about seven years in prison and Calhoun, who was not directly involved in the crash, but fled the scene, faces about 12 years in prison so they guy who left is facing longer time than the guy who manslaughtered them. ?????? __________________ 89 with 331 t3'/t4 hybrids. upr Suspention worked out finnaly . 9.89 144 mph .

05-20-2003, 07:27 PM	#2
Jaegermeister2k Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brandon,Fl Posts: 163	I know we all like to step on it from time to time,but racing should be kept on the track to prevent things like that to happen.

05-20-2003, 08:09 PM	#4
20LbsBoost Guest Posts: n/a	Will do, I'm keeping an eye on this.

05-21-2003, 08:15 PM	#8
20LbsBoost Guest Posts: n/a	The 7yrs vs. 12yrs is kind of misleading. The 12 yrs is calculated because he was convicted of more crimes (leaving the scene). I presume the crash was worth 7 yrs and leaving the scene was worth 5 years. Most sentences are concurrent which means they're run together and not consecutively (back to back). So, they say 12 years which is the grand total but most likely Calhoun will get out earlier via parole because he didn't directly cause the deaths whereas Waller did. Parole boards take the circumstances of the crimes committed when considering petitions for release on parole.

05-22-2003, 11:17 AM	#9
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	"Got NOS?, you may as well add neons, wing and carbon fibre hood too" ______________________________________________ This is off topic but that may be the dumbest thing I have ever read on this board. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

05-23-2003, 11:59 PM	#11
blue oval 50h Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: NJ Posts: 219	If bottles are for babies, why did i just spank your azz??? __________________ 347- 10.63@128 N/A

05-26-2003, 10:19 PM	#13
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	....Very sad story. Thanks for the updates 20LbsBoost __________________ 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

07-22-2003, 05:44 PM	#14
Special K Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Montreal, Quebec (Canada) Posts: 246	Those guys are street racers not drag racers. __________________ 2000 Honda Civic SiR @ 6psi 13.738 @ 102.943 mph 1989 Ford Mustang LX Coupe 5.0L (RIP)

10-23-2003, 11:23 AM	#15
Snakeman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Grass Valley, CA, USA Posts: 1,389	barracuda -vs- geo 'cuda gonna win every time... buy your kids big old, heavy cars, not recycled-metal foreign crap... i agree, drag racing is done at the track. __________________ LX ~vs~ Camaro

10-23-2003, 12:48 PM	#16
Special K Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Montreal, Quebec (Canada) Posts: 246	Holy tread resurrection batman! __________________ 2000 Honda Civic SiR @ 6psi 13.738 @ 102.943 mph 1989 Ford Mustang LX Coupe 5.0L (RIP)

10-23-2003, 03:32 PM	#17
T5superduty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 114	Sorry but I think they should have paid for what they did at least the one that was driving " waller" He killed two people guys come on. Ya he didnt mean to do it but christ when people street race they have to be carefull about shitt. If there was a car on either side of the race then ya gotta think" oh ok something bad could happen here mabye I should stop" You would all be saying he deserves a conviction if you knew those people. The other dude doesnt deserve anything though

05-24-2003, 04:00 PM	#12
20LbsBoost Guest Posts: n/a	Huh?

10-25-2003, 03:07 PM	#18
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	Here's a question no one has addressed yet. Who had the right of way? Seems to me she didn't __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

10-25-2003, 03:44 PM	#19
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Thats what I said!! __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

10-25-2003, 10:29 PM	#20
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	I think its sad when two people die and two more go to prison all because someone didn't properly yield the right of way. Had they all lived (and not been racing) SHE would have gotten the ticket. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

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