BBK Longtubes suck!

JSFIRE79 · 01-31-2004, 02:09 AM

I just bought a cheap pair of BBK longtubes. The quality sucks, welds are ugly , clamp marks everywhere and my biggest hatred, I got the passenger side in and then got the drivers side in and couldnt bolt it on........the f&*%#g collector was pressing on the lickage for the shifter...and would not yield the 1/4 inch needed to get the bolts in.........Has anyone ever used these crappy headers........if so was this a problem with yours, and this common with all longtubes?

Dark_5.0 · 01-31-2004, 11:42 AM

I guess the BBK long tubes do suck cause you are the third person that has said it this month.

jonnyk · 01-31-2004, 12:02 PM

It could be worse...you could have bought MAC's

tireburner163 · 01-31-2004, 12:12 PM

The problem is your transmission.

I bought my BBK long tubes (and yes, they DO suck) off my older brother because they wouldn't clear the bell-houseing on his AOD.

Sorry dude, I think your gonna need new headers.

-Josh, aka the tireburner

JSFIRE79 · 01-31-2004, 03:41 PM

so what are some good longtubes that will fit? That are relatively cheap?

QuantumMotorsports · 01-31-2004, 04:15 PM

MAC longtube headers are the best headers I've ever seen. Quality and fit was excellent.

Dark_5.0 · 01-31-2004, 04:28 PM

I bought some Mac long tube headers for my 01' cobra and they didnt fit well at all.

I ended up selling them on ebay.

BigCountryGT · 01-31-2004, 09:45 PM

Hooker super comps

jonnyk · 01-31-2004, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigCountryGT
Hooker super comps

I second that assuming they have AOD-fitted headers.

86GT · 02-01-2004, 10:07 AM

I've used BBK's and MAC's longtubes. I liked the BBK's better for ease of installation, but the MAC's (once in) left me more clearance around everything.

If you want to save cash, get the MAC's but get them Jet-hot coated or something, their HTS coating peels off after a few weeks-months.

RoadWarrior · 02-02-2004, 01:09 AM

Id also put a vote in for the hooker super comps but those arent going to be as cheap as the others.

429mustang · 02-02-2004, 08:19 PM

What's wrong with BBK's? Do they fit OK with a 5 spd. trans? Are there any other brand headers (longtubes) that are better for close to BBK's price? I was gonna buy a set of their ceramic coated longtubes for my 90 coupe, but now I'm not sure. I definitely don't want MAC's, and the Super Comps are a little too high priced.

jonnyk · 02-02-2004, 09:43 PM

I have no complaints with my BBK's...
Those who whine about the install haven't had longtubes before. They all suck.
Those who whine about the fit seem to be whining for no reason to me....mine fit fine.
I don't see that clearance is a huge issue so long as it touches nothing.

So I guess, BBK's still get my vote for cheap headers.

stang_racer20 · 02-03-2004, 12:10 AM

what most people dont realize is that no one header measures exactly the same as the next. Nothings perfect. Just like my bbk equals are a "bolt-on", yet realistically you have to lift the motor to passenger side in. also had to get the head flanges machines cause they were warped. they work now, but im definitely going with either bassani long tubes or jba's next!

tireburner163 · 02-03-2004, 12:34 AM

My BBK's fit like ***. One header tube touches the starter. Heat soak anyone?

The driver's side was the real problem. I had to shim my motor up 1/2" using washers just to clear my rag-joint so I could turn the wheel. One tube still rubs my steering shaft.

I will NEVER buy BBK again.

-Josh, aka the tireburner

302 LX Eric · 02-03-2004, 08:24 AM

This thread is interesting.

I helped a buddy install a set of BBK long tubes on an 88GT 5-sp and it went just fine. No rubbing, no shimming, nothing.

This is weird.

E

429mustang · 02-03-2004, 09:13 AM

How much can you get a set of JBA's or Basani's in ceramic coated for?

byrnech · 02-03-2004, 02:45 PM

I have the BBK longtubes and everything fits fine, now that I have a k-member they are super easy to install. I helped a friend install a set of MAC LT's for an AOD talk about a PITA! The only complaint I have is that the chrome finish on the BBK's is poor quality and the collectors need to be opened up a little but that's it. -Chris

stang_racer20 · 02-03-2004, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 429mustang
How much can you get a set of JBA's or Basani's in ceramic coated for?

Well the bassani's and the jba's should both available in stainless steel, so ceramic coating is not a biggie. but they do offer ceramic coating over mild steel as well. the prices just depend where you get em.

01-31-2004, 02:09 AM	#1
JSFIRE79 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Northridge, Ca. USA Posts: 27	BBK Longtubes suck! I just bought a cheap pair of BBK longtubes. The quality sucks, welds are ugly , clamp marks everywhere and my biggest hatred, I got the passenger side in and then got the drivers side in and couldnt bolt it on........the f&*%#g collector was pressing on the lickage for the shifter...and would not yield the 1/4 inch needed to get the bolts in.........Has anyone ever used these crappy headers........if so was this a problem with yours, and this common with all longtubes? __________________ 93GT Stock 302, 170,000 miles....GT-40Y Heads, Ported and Extrude Honed GT-40 intake, Pro-M w/Granitelli Meter , 65mm Throttle Body , Custom Crane Cam, Rockers, lifters, pushrods, Mikes Transmissions Built AOD, 3000 stall, Aluminum Driveshaft , 3.73 gears, Motorsports shorty headers, Stock axles, ZEX 125HP kit. w/Bottle warmer. 60ft. - 1.60 1/4- 11.38 MPH- 119 WWW.StarkRacing.net

01-31-2004, 11:42 AM	#2
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I guess the BBK long tubes do suck cause you are the third person that has said it this month. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-31-2004, 12:02 PM	#3
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	It could be worse...you could have bought MAC's __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics

01-31-2004, 12:12 PM	#4
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	The problem is your transmission. I bought my BBK long tubes (and yes, they DO suck) off my older brother because they wouldn't clear the bell-houseing on his AOD. Sorry dude, I think your gonna need new headers. -Josh, aka the tireburner __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide Last edited by tireburner163; 01-31-2004 at 12:28 PM..

01-31-2004, 03:41 PM	#5
JSFIRE79 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Northridge, Ca. USA Posts: 27	so what are some good longtubes that will fit? That are relatively cheap? __________________ 93GT Stock 302, 170,000 miles....GT-40Y Heads, Ported and Extrude Honed GT-40 intake, Pro-M w/Granitelli Meter , 65mm Throttle Body , Custom Crane Cam, Rockers, lifters, pushrods, Mikes Transmissions Built AOD, 3000 stall, Aluminum Driveshaft , 3.73 gears, Motorsports shorty headers, Stock axles, ZEX 125HP kit. w/Bottle warmer. 60ft. - 1.60 1/4- 11.38 MPH- 119 WWW.StarkRacing.net

01-31-2004, 04:15 PM	#6
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	MAC longtube headers are the best headers I've ever seen. Quality and fit was excellent. __________________ Michael Black QuantumMotorsports Norman, OK 1984 LX Hatch 306 w/ TRW forged flat toppers, Comp Cams Magnum 292H, GT40P heads w/ 3 angle valve job, .550 lift springs, Angus Racing Roller Rockers, Weiand Stealth Intake, Holley 4150 650cfm carb, MAC 1 5/8 Long Tubes, Single Chamber Flowmasters, 91' T5 w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, Turbo Coupe 8.8 Rear w/ 3.55 gears, QA1 Motorsports tubular K member, no interior except steering wheel and seat. Coming soon: 6 or 8 point cage, Fuel Cell, Weld Draglites

01-31-2004, 04:28 PM	#7
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I bought some Mac long tube headers for my 01' cobra and they didnt fit well at all. I ended up selling them on ebay. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-31-2004, 09:45 PM	#8
BigCountryGT Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: meridian, ms Posts: 96	Hooker super comps __________________ No, I was serious. Your import sucks

02-01-2004, 10:07 AM	#10
86GT Sniffed too much n20 Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ont, Canada Posts: 1,018	I've used BBK's and MAC's longtubes. I liked the BBK's better for ease of installation, but the MAC's (once in) left me more clearance around everything. If you want to save cash, get the MAC's but get them Jet-hot coated or something, their HTS coating peels off after a few weeks-months. __________________ 2002 Windsor Weekend Q16 Qualifier

02-02-2004, 01:09 AM	#11
RoadWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Edmonton,Alberta,Canada Posts: 317	Id also put a vote in for the hooker super comps but those arent going to be as cheap as the others. __________________ Fast Company

02-02-2004, 08:19 PM	#12
429mustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: westerville, OH USA Posts: 618	What's wrong with BBK's? Do they fit OK with a 5 spd. trans? Are there any other brand headers (longtubes) that are better for close to BBK's price? I was gonna buy a set of their ceramic coated longtubes for my 90 coupe, but now I'm not sure. I definitely don't want MAC's, and the Super Comps are a little too high priced. __________________ 1990 Notchback: BBK Ceramic Coated Full length headers, Dr. Gas 3"- 2 1/2" x-pipe, Flowmaster 40's/turndowns.

02-02-2004, 09:43 PM	#13
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	I have no complaints with my BBK's... Those who whine about the install haven't had longtubes before. They all suck. Those who whine about the fit seem to be whining for no reason to me....mine fit fine. I don't see that clearance is a huge issue so long as it touches nothing. So I guess, BBK's still get my vote for cheap headers. __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics

02-03-2004, 12:10 AM	#14
stang_racer20 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 348	what most people dont realize is that no one header measures exactly the same as the next. Nothings perfect. Just like my bbk equals are a "bolt-on", yet realistically you have to lift the motor to passenger side in. also had to get the head flanges machines cause they were warped. they work now, but im definitely going with either bassani long tubes or jba's next! __________________ 92 Mustang GT, 347 Stroker(Forged Steel Crank/Rods-Balanced, Forged Aluminum Dished Pistons), Trick Flow Track Heat Intake, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge Heads w/ Stage 3 port/polish, 80mm C&L MAF, FMS 30# Inj., BBK AFPR, Trick Flow Stage 2 Cam, Trick Flow 1.6R Rockers, BBK E.L. Headers, Flowmaster Cat-Back, MAC CAI, FMS Pulleys, Griffin Alum. Radiator, MSD Pro-Billet Distributor; AOD, Dynamic 3300 Lockup Converter, B & M Super Cooler, B&M Ratchet Shifter; 3:73 gears.

02-03-2004, 12:34 AM	#15
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	My BBK's fit like *. One header tube touches the starter. Heat soak anyone? The driver's side was the real problem. I had to shim my motor up 1/2" using washers just to clear my rag-joint so I could turn the wheel. One tube still rubs my steering shaft. I will NEVER** buy BBK again. -Josh, aka the tireburner __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

02-03-2004, 08:24 AM	#16
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	This thread is interesting. I helped a buddy install a set of BBK long tubes on an 88GT 5-sp and it went just fine. No rubbing, no shimming, nothing. This is weird. E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

02-03-2004, 09:13 AM	#17
429mustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: westerville, OH USA Posts: 618	How much can you get a set of JBA's or Basani's in ceramic coated for? __________________ 1990 Notchback: BBK Ceramic Coated Full length headers, Dr. Gas 3"- 2 1/2" x-pipe, Flowmaster 40's/turndowns.

02-03-2004, 02:45 PM	#18
byrnech Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Anderson, TX. Posts: 166	BBK I have the BBK longtubes and everything fits fine, now that I have a k-member they are super easy to install. I helped a friend install a set of MAC LT's for an AOD talk about a PITA! The only complaint I have is that the chrome finish on the BBK's is poor quality and the collectors need to be opened up a little but that's it. -Chris __________________ 331 10:1, AFR 185's, TFS-R intake

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