Car won't start. Long.

NitroNixon · 07-11-2005, 03:09 PM

I couldn't use a timing light because I didn't have one available since I was stranded on the side of the beltway. Also I can even get the engine started long engine to use the timing light.

I'll check the relay though.

Thanks

Hozer 88GTConv · 07-11-2005, 03:34 PM

I would definitely start at that box, where's it located? Under the hood? Sounds possibly like an electrical heat sink issue, that is as a component heats up it becomes less effective at producing/managing spark. That's why the tfi module is in the stupidest place ever.
Take the box out of the loop...
good luck...

NitroNixon · 07-11-2005, 03:41 PM

The box is under the hood, directly under my cold air intake filter. I will take it out of the loop.

Thanks

NitroNixon · 07-12-2005, 08:08 PM

Update - I had the codes pulled and here's what I found

67 - Neutral Drive SW CKT Open or A/C on
81 - Thermactor Divert or Bypass CKT
82 - Thermactor Divert or Bypass CKT
95 - Code Definition not available
***Continous Memory Codes - Fix Last***

Anyone knows what they mean?

Should I be looking at my neutral switch? I'm going to try and remove my Crane Box to see if the engine will start with the stock ignition.

NitroNixon · 07-15-2005, 02:01 PM

Day 5 and still not start.

Hozer 88GTConv · 07-15-2005, 02:14 PM

So it still won't start at all? Not even idle for 3-5 secs?

Is your EGR valve still installed? Check that damn plunger if it is...also, check the ten-pin connectors next to the egr (corrosion, integrity, etc)..

tell us what your egr setup is like now? did you delete the crossover on the back of the heads but leave the egr on? If you took the egr off, what did you do with the plunger sensor?

Take a picture and post it of your egr if you can and it is still installed...

NitroNixon · 07-15-2005, 02:42 PM

I still have the cross over pipes on the back of the heads, still using the complete EGR system. The only think I have unhook is the smog pump. I capped it off since I'm running an off-road h-pipe.

07-11-2005, 03:09 PM	#1
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Re: Car won't start. Long. I couldn't use a timing light because I didn't have one available since I was stranded on the side of the beltway. Also I can even get the engine started long engine to use the timing light. I'll check the relay though. Thanks __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

07-11-2005, 03:34 PM	#2
Hozer 88GTConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 706	Re: Car won't start. Long. I would definitely start at that box, where's it located? Under the hood? Sounds possibly like an electrical heat sink issue, that is as a component heats up it becomes less effective at producing/managing spark. That's why the tfi module is in the stupidest place ever. Take the box out of the loop... good luck... __________________ 1988 GT Convertible 331 10:1 TW heads, GT-40 intake, MSD, TRW flattops, B Cam w/ 1.7's, MAC exhaust, 24's, 70 TB, 76 MAF, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, Koni's, Anderson PMS, Wideband 02, yatta, yatta... One week with new motor, two speeding tickets...joy

07-11-2005, 03:41 PM	#3
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Re: Car won't start. Long. The box is under the hood, directly under my cold air intake filter. I will take it out of the loop. Thanks __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

07-12-2005, 08:08 PM	#4
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Re: Car won't start. Long. Update - I had the codes pulled and here's what I found 67 - Neutral Drive SW CKT Open or A/C on 81 - Thermactor Divert or Bypass CKT 82 - Thermactor Divert or Bypass CKT 95 - Code Definition not available *Continous Memory Codes - Fix Last* Anyone knows what they mean? Should I be looking at my neutral switch? I'm going to try and remove my Crane Box to see if the engine will start with the stock ignition. __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

07-15-2005, 02:01 PM	#5
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Re: Car won't start. Long. Day 5 and still not start. __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

07-15-2005, 02:14 PM	#6
Hozer 88GTConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 706	Re: Car won't start. Long. So it still won't start at all? Not even idle for 3-5 secs? Is your EGR valve still installed? Check that damn plunger if it is...also, check the ten-pin connectors next to the egr (corrosion, integrity, etc).. tell us what your egr setup is like now? did you delete the crossover on the back of the heads but leave the egr on? If you took the egr off, what did you do with the plunger sensor? Take a picture and post it of your egr if you can and it is still installed... __________________ 1988 GT Convertible 331 10:1 TW heads, GT-40 intake, MSD, TRW flattops, B Cam w/ 1.7's, MAC exhaust, 24's, 70 TB, 76 MAF, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, Koni's, Anderson PMS, Wideband 02, yatta, yatta... One week with new motor, two speeding tickets...joy

07-15-2005, 02:42 PM	#7
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Re: Car won't start. Long. I still have the cross over pipes on the back of the heads, still using the complete EGR system. The only think I have unhook is the smog pump. I capped it off since I'm running an off-road h-pipe. __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

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