Would you like to see the Camaro return?

[The Fireman]

Well would you?

[PKRWUD]

Not really. I thought it looked way too Japanese in it's 4th generation, and was very unattractive. I am looking forward to next years return of the GTO, though!

Take care,
~Chris

[Kamaro Killer]

I never really liked Slomaros, except for 67-69's. I didn't really like the design of them too well, although their engines had some potential. It'd be nice to have something to kick around again, but I doubt we'll see them gone for many, many years. I hope if it does come back, they disgrace it by making it a sedan, lol. Later, Keith

na the camaro is gone and like chris said it was funny looking. but damn i didn't know the GTO was coming back, that should be something neat to see.

-murray

[cyberstang5.0]

F-bodies suck!

[LayanRubr]

Well guys we're gonna need competetion in the market! That produces better and faster cars so companys dont slack off and do dumb designs. Plus I mean currently Dodge doesnt have a hot contender (Viper too $$$) and now Camaro is out of the game for a bit. We also need new domestic motors to help battle the rice waves .

[0h n0 5.0]

i'm with layan, man even if it was a chebby, it was one hell of a machine, the z an SS were pretty nice.. gm made it alot nicer than those 80's irocs an 305's... only to kill it when they fine tuned everything it in 2001. we domestic guys (chevy, ford, dodge) guys gotta hold our own against them tojo's an krauts

we need the mid priced competition v8 pony cars, DODGE took it up the ***, an now chevy put their only affordable pony car to the glue factory, so the only thing left is the uber-swank zo6, or the jezzeus-frickin christmas-how-much-a-month-is-this-car-a-month? VIPER for RWd performance.

not exactly teeming with buyers for affordable v8 domestic performance..

if we're the top for a long time, the designers will slack off, quit improving on it, an we'll fall behind in innovation an design. so if a return happens, we'll be playing catch up..


plus..I HATE IMPORT wanna b's an theres enough of them around to justify the hate .. big guys drivin lil comuter cars fartin by while blindin eveybody with 800,000 watts of piaa lighting an wings i can get satelite stations from ...eww

[PKRWUD]

Originally posted by digital3.3
but damn i didn't know the GTO was coming back, that should be something neat to see.

-murray

General Motors Press Release 8:00 a.m EST June 20, 2002

ÊPontiac Confirms GTO Production

DETROIT Ñ
General Motors and its Australian division, Holden, have completed an agreement to return the legendary Pontiac GTO to U.S. highways in late 2003 as a 2004 model. Holden will produce up to 18,000 of the modern, high-performance coupes each year at its Elizabeth plant.

Bob Lutz, Chairman of GM's North American Operations, was a key player in bringing back the GTO as a modern interpretation of the legendary muscle car. After he drove the Holden Monaro during a recent trip to Australia, he knew he had found a vehicle to serve as the basis for the new GTO. "I love driving this car," Lutz said, raving about the Monaro's 5.7-liter V8, 6-speed manual transmission. "It shares that V8 heritage and a brawny, muscular stance with the classic GTO, and it will make a fine flagship for Pontiac.

The addition of the 2004 GTO to the Pontiac lineup is a giant step in Pontiac's mission to contemporize the way it expresses excitement for the 21st century. "We want to focus on creating vehicles with a clean, fresh expression of Pontiac styling and provide our customers with a 'total performance' package that delivers both impressive power and superior handling," said Lynn Myers, Pontiac-GMC general manager. "The introduction of the new GTO in late 2003 will be the 'exclamation point" on the exciting evolution of the division, moving Pontiac performance to the next level."

2004 PONTIAC GTO

The 2004 Pontiac GTO will share much of the sculpted and clean styling of the current 2002 Holden Monaro CV8 coupe, with unique Pontiac brand character, including a dual-port grille and powered by a specially tuned version of the 5.7-liter LS1 V8 (shared with some models of the Chevrolet¨ Corvette¨) mated to a choice of either a 6-speed manual or 4-speed automatic transmission. The rear-wheel-drive coupe will feature 17" alloy wheels, 2+2 bucket seating, and a premium sound system with an integrated 6-disc CD changer. Additional performance and feature details are still being finalized and will be released closer to the public unveiling of the GTO at the Los Angeles and North American International Auto Shows.

HOLDEN MONARO

The Holden Monaro was originally introduced in 1968 and was immediately lauded as the ultimate high-performance coupe. It was the first all-Australian sports coupe of its type. Strong public sentiment led Holden officials to bring back the Monaro name for its all-new 2001 coupe. Monaro became an instant classic when it was released in Australia last October and has become the most high-profile, sought-after car on Australian roads today.

GTO HISTORY

The Pontiac GTO sprang to life in 1963 as a 1964 model. It has been called the most famous muscle car in the high-performance automobile history. Also known as "The Legend" and "The Great One," GTO is the car that started it all.
Prior to 1964, performance cars were full-size hardtops and sedans with the largest displacement engines available. But, hot rodders had known for years that they could go faster if you put big engines in smaller, lighter cars. Engine swaps were standard operating procedure for this level of car buff, but that was backyard tinkering, not corporate engineering.
Driving enthusiasts' dreams came true in October of 1963 when the $299.95 GTO option, RPO W62, quietly joined the 1964 Pontiac Tempest¨/LeMans¨ option list. The heart of the original GTO option package was a 325-horsepower 389-cubic-inch V8, a Carter AFB four-barrel carburetor, rear-wheel drive, a hydraulic camshaft, and impressive torque. Other standard features included a heavy duty clutch, heavy duty suspension, dual exhaust, US Royal red-line tires, a 3.23:1 rear axle ratio, twin hood scoops, and an assortment of GTO emblems.

Take care,
~Chris

[jj_jonathon]

Originally posted by 0h n0 5.0
i'm with layan, man even if it was a chebby, it was one hell of a machine, the z an SS were pretty nice.. gm made it alot nicer than those 80's irocs an 305's... only to kill it when they fine tuned everything it in 2001.

my brother has an 02 SS...he has more problems with that car than we get with our 90 GT with 200,000miles on it....theyre rather flawed in many aspects from engine to rear....hes already had chevy replace his entire engine because of a piston...and he still gets knocking sounds....so they arent too perfect....his is definetly a f***ing sweet car though....

[Dark_5.0]

I actually like the LS-1 camaro's..........I will be happy to see them return just like I was when Nissan released the 350Z.

I pretty much like almost any sports car I am not just a brand loyal Ford guy.

Later,

[84LX89GT]

I personally liked the F-bodies...cheap to build up, cheap to get parts....cheap in general.

They are also damn fast. I hate to see any domestic RWD V8 sports car go. The only kind of "sports" car i'd ever own will be RWD so seeing all of these garbage FWD cars come out sucks big time.

I'm not a big fan of japanese cars in general and although i like quite a few European cars, most RWD sports cars are crazy expensive. I can honestly say that i may someday own a Camaro/Firebird (....yes i like to punish myself ), so i'm sorry to see the F-body go. Plus with the F-body gone, what will mustangs look forward to being rivals with?

[The Sandman]

No.
They're ugly.
Firebird all the way

[Crazy Horse GT]

sandman, you would have loved it, saw a 69 bird for sale, with oem hubcap's - perfect shape dark green.

[1969Mach1]

I must agree with most people, I was never a fan of the Camaro's other then the 67-69. I didn't mind the Iroc-Z but still wasn't my choice. I wouldn't mind them bringing back the Firebird though, even though it was a GM I still liked it. I'm lookin' forward to the GTO and the Grand Prix is going to be a V8 with rumours of it being RWD. Hmm... what V8 engine would they throw in there? LS1? Well I'm looking forward to see what GM has in store for us Ford guys.

§am.

[95mustanggt]

I think the Camero gave the Mustang some good competition. I do think that the latest Camero's looked like a cross between a Cavalier and an Intrepid. I would like to see some classic detail features come back in a new F-body. That all being said, if Ford continues to make badass Mustang's who need's the Camero?

[jj_jonathon]

Originally posted by The Sandman
No.
They're ugly.
Firebird all the way

trans ams all the way IMO...hehe....god i love the WS6...how about a formula WS6? *drooools*....hehe...ever heard of the blackbird? ive only ever seen one....damn it was sweet...lol

[Mustangmom2k]

I like TransAms, too. I didn't care much for the last generation Camaro, though. It's styling was just sort of "blah" and almost non-descript. I don't know squat about their performance, though. Never paid attention and never owned one. I would like to see them come back with some styling cues from the earlier ones. I also think that our tradition of American pony cars is being systematically eroded, and the Camaro is one example. I just hate to see tradition fade away.

I say bring it back.

[1969Mach1]

Originally posted by jj_jonathon
trans ams all the way IMO...hehe....god i love the WS6...how about a formula WS6? *drooools*....hehe...ever heard of the blackbird? ive only ever seen one....damn it was sweet...lol

The WS6's were sooooo sweeet. I never heard of a blackbird. I liked the Firehawk. That was a pretty limited production car and I seen a handful running around my town. I liked the 35th Anniversery Trans-Am, my favorite combo was the white with the blue rims.


This is a picture of one I took at a track I went to in the summer, it was just parked in the parking lot. Mostly because it was a Ford & Mustang day, but it still was worthy of a picture.

§am.

[The Fireman]

My main problem with the Camaro was the way it looked. Man that thing was UGLY in it's last years. Looked too much like the early 70's Camaros, and man those things hurt my eyes when I looked at um. Reminded me of a fish with it's mouth open.

Plus the F-bodys didn't have that much room on the inside. I looked at buying a 97 Firebird, and I kept hitting my head on the roof while I was sitting in it. And I'd hate to think I had to sit in those back seats very long. No room at all back there.

[DAN-MAN]

Nah, I could care less about the Camaro coming back. I wouldn't mind seeing something from GM to match the Mustang. I wouldn't mind it 'cause the Mustang needs some more domestic competiton I think.

Daniel.