What do you guys think a quick street car should run?

11-21-2002, 03:40 AM

What ET do you guys feel determines the title of a "quick" daily driven street car?

When I mean daily driven, I mean something like you could get caught in the rain (but rather not), go to the store to grab some things/groceries, drive to work, hang with the boys, not trailer to the track, take the gal to dinner and catch a race on the way back.

Lets hear your opinions and vote in the poll!

Skyman · 11-21-2002, 04:27 AM

Well my Mustang is easily street driven, gets 20+ mpg, but I hate driving the roll cage daily, so I cant say its a nice daily driver. But it goes low 12's on motor and probably low 11's on the spray.

On the other hand, the merkur will have everything, A/C, no gutting, catalytic converter, and it should go low 13's on the street getting 30mpg.

SKyler

Kamaro Killer · 11-21-2002, 12:15 PM

I voted for 13.0-13.5. I think anything in the mid to low 13's is fast. A few more bolt-ons and a car that fast is almost as fast as the new cobras. That's just my opinion though, Keith

The Deuce · 11-21-2002, 12:43 PM

This question has been asked an answered over in the Blue Oval Lounge. Here is the link for that

what do you consider fast?

I know it says 'fast' and not 'quick', but there are answers to 'quick' in there too.

Dark_5.0 · 11-21-2002, 01:23 PM

If you run anywhere in the 13's you will win way more than you lose.

15's is peppy
14's is fun to drive
13's and faster is a quick street car IMO.

11-21-2002, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by The Deuce
This question has been asked an answered over in the Blue Oval Lounge. Here is the link for that

I know it says 'fast' and not 'quick', but there are answers to 'quick' in there too.

I just went and read that thread and it's similar, but not the same as what I'm looking for here.

DAN-MAN · 11-21-2002, 08:43 PM

I voted 11.0-11.5. Anything that is just plain fast and can be driven anywhere is my idea of a fast street car.

Daniel.

11-21-2002, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by DAN-MAN
I voted 11.0-11.5. Anything that is just plain fast and can be driven anywhere is my idea of a fast street car.

You think an 11.2 car could drive 45 minutes across town to take mom to the Dr.? You think you could drive it back and forth to work 5 days a week for 3 or 4 months (this is taking into account one would think an 11.2 car would need high octane race fuel)?

The Deuce · 11-21-2002, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
You think an 11.2 car could drive 45 minutes across town to take mom to the Dr.? You think you could drive it back and forth to work 5 days a week for 3 or 4 months (this is taking into account one would think an 11.2 car would need high octane race fuel)?

Lets work this out. To get a full bodied car down the 1320 in 11.2 you'd need what 650 bhp with 4.11's? Lets assume the car is fairly light, say a 67 Mustang weighing in at 3000 even with a little gas and a driver.

Now my buddies '32 makes that with its 427sohc nascar motor. (On pump gas

)Sure it has a couple of Don Zig Mags, and 1400cfm's worth of Edlebrock on it, but that motor would technically fit into a 68.

So we have the motor taken care of, but with 4.11's who wants to drive that around on the street? Solution, run it through the tremec T-56, with its .5 overdrive 6th gear. That takes a nice chunk out to the 4.11's on the highway. Heck, it would even be useful with all that power.

Sure there are some little traction issues, but some decent suspension (traction bars, etc) and some ET streets (or DR's and a prayer) would make the car driveable. I've seen some of the tires he has for the deuce, and he can keep them hooked up.

It would be one bad arse '68, but it should meet all your requirements. Question, Sky's car minus the cage is fine, and should hit your mark on the juice. Does that count too? Or is that cheating?

this is not cbring · 11-21-2002, 09:42 PM

i know a couple of bankers that have new 911 turbos as their daily drivers.........what do those runs, 11's???

i've sat in them and they seem pretty damn comfortable and fairly docile in downtown work traffic

The Deuce · 11-21-2002, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by this is not cbring
i know a couple of bankers that have new 911 turbos as their daily drivers.........what do those runs, 11's???

i've sat in them and they seem pretty damn comfortable and fairly docile in downtown work traffic

Low 12's from the ones I've seen at the track, but turn up the boost....

11-21-2002, 10:19 PM

No, the go-go juice shouldn't count. I don't consider that power adder a part of your typically quick daily driver. When I mean daily driver I'm talking about the same type of driving you typically see with the car you use on a daily basis with the same type of care and maintenance. NOS for power requires constant fill-ups after several uses. Something your wife wouldn't be interested in keeping up with. That's outside the boundaries of simple oil changes and gas fill ups.

I suppose I should have included a detailed description of "daily driver" to include the type of maintenance and care you'd give your typical 4 cyl Grand Am. That would be the occaisional stop at the car wash, 3000 mile oil change and regular stops for gas. It would be a car you'd put 12,000-15,000 miles a year on, pick up the kids from school, go to the mall, pick up mom at the airport 45 minutes away, go back and forth to work and sit in rush hour traffic and is (what you'd consider) quick at the stop-light-wars that would ensue in the mean time. That to me is your regular quick daily driver.

I don't care if you consider this a Delorean, '69 Mach I, Porche 911 turbo, or Chevrolet Safari satation wagon. I'm not going to get into the type of car one chooses but it'd need to be a daily driver one would live with as described above. If you think you could do all that with the car you outlined, then that's the car you choose.

Simple? Let's hear it!....

BLACK85GT · 11-21-2002, 11:06 PM

I vote 13.0 as a quick street car.

Special K · 11-22-2002, 12:37 AM

Yeah low 13s is fast for a daily driver. Thats what im planning to run with my grocery getter. All year around. Rain, snow, whatever!

See there is advantages not have low end power!

The Deuce · 11-22-2002, 01:48 AM

Dean, then I guess my car doesn't fit your descriptioin. Sorry, but I am much more anal about my Mustang. It is my daily driver, and no I wouldn't consider the amount of time I would spend under the hood of a big block to be a whole lot more than under the hood of my car. I'm always tinkering and playing with stuff. That's what makes me a car guy, so yeah, I wouldn't mind being stuck with the car I described.

11-22-2002, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by The Deuce
Dean, then I guess my car doesn't fit your descriptioin. Sorry, but I am much more anal about my Mustang. It is my daily driver, and no I wouldn't consider the amount of time I would spend under the hood of a big block to be a whole lot more than under the hood of my car. I'm always tinkering and playing with stuff. That's what makes me a car guy, so yeah, I wouldn't mind being stuck with the car I described.

Oh, I can appreciate that completelyl. I really don't have what I described myself but just wanted everyone's opinion. My GN and TTA are not daily drivers but occasional nice day touring machines. They could be, but I don't need to use'em like that. They live the good life. Though now I'm gathering ideas on how to make my TTA a 12.0 second streetable daily driver and it can be done and no one would know the difference.

Anyway.....

red82gt · 11-22-2002, 02:43 AM

My car does low 13's, I drive it daily from march to november and there's still plenty of faster cars out there, I vote for 12.0-12.5.
Another question, does it have to run these times with the same tires you daily drive on? If so, that puts my car back to the high 13's.

stevstum · 11-22-2002, 12:49 PM

I don't care as long as it is faster than the rice burners around hear

Aquaman · 11-22-2002, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
. That would be the occaisional stop at the car wash, 3000 mile oil change and regular stops for gas. It would be a car you'd put 12,000-15,000 miles a year on, pick up the kids from school, go to the mall, pick up mom at the airport 45 minutes away, go back and forth to work and sit in rush hour traffic and is (what you'd consider) quick at the stop-light-wars that would ensue in the mean time. That to me is your regular quick daily driver.

I run 12.5's in my car with no maintenace other then oil change and many many brake pads. I drive it year round and put about 40K a year on the vette's always have. sad thing is it's not supposed to be my daily driver my SHO is, and I intend to drive it but walk into the garage and see the Vette well. 40K a year is the result of that.

I use the same tires that came on the car, (RunFlats), change the oil every 3000 miles, get 30 mpg on long trips where I average 90mph and listen to any CD I want in A/C comfort. Thats a pretty good daily driver for my tastes. Oh and I can flip a switch anytime I want and run mid 11's not bad

302 LX Eric · 11-22-2002, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Aquaman
I run 12.5's in my car with no maintenace other then oil change and many many brake pads. I drive it year round and put about 40K a year on the vette's always have. sad thing is it's not supposed to be my daily driver my SHO is, and I intend to drive it but walk into the garage and see the Vette well. 40K a year is the result of that.

I use the same tires that came on the car, (RunFlats), change the oil every 3000 miles, get 30 mpg on long trips where I average 90mph and listen to any CD I want in A/C comfort. Thats a pretty good daily driver for my tastes. Oh and I can flip a switch anytime I want and run mid 11's not bad

Jeez Dude! What's your daily commute...200 miles?!?! Didn't know that Carmel, IN was that big? lol

E

View Poll Results: What ET deserves the title of "quick" daily driven street car?
11.0 - 11.5	5	9.80%
11.6 - 12.0	9	17.65%
12.1 - 12.5	8	15.69%
12.6 - 13.0	13	25.49%
13.1 - 13.5	14	27.45%
13.6 - 14.0	1	1.96%
14.1 - And beyone hope	1	1.96%
Voters: 51. This poll is closed

11-21-2002, 03:40 AM	#1
20LbsBoost Guest Posts: n/a	What do you guys think a quick street car should run? What ET do you guys feel determines the title of a "quick" daily driven street car? When I mean daily driven, I mean something like you could get caught in the rain (but rather not), go to the store to grab some things/groceries, drive to work, hang with the boys, not trailer to the track, take the gal to dinner and catch a race on the way back. Lets hear your opinions and vote in the poll! Last edited by 20LbsBoost; 11-21-2002 at 03:58 AM..

11-21-2002, 04:27 AM	#2
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Well my Mustang is easily street driven, gets 20+ mpg, but I hate driving the roll cage daily, so I cant say its a nice daily driver. But it goes low 12's on motor and probably low 11's on the spray. On the other hand, the merkur will have everything, A/C, no gutting, catalytic converter, and it should go low 13's on the street getting 30mpg. SKyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

11-21-2002, 12:15 PM	#3
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	I voted for 13.0-13.5. I think anything in the mid to low 13's is fast. A few more bolt-ons and a car that fast is almost as fast as the new cobras. That's just my opinion though, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

11-21-2002, 12:43 PM	#4
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	This question has been asked an answered over in the Blue Oval Lounge. Here is the link for that what do you consider fast? I know it says 'fast' and not 'quick', but there are answers to 'quick' in there too. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

11-21-2002, 01:23 PM	#5
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	If you run anywhere in the 13's you will win way more than you lose. 15's is peppy 14's is fun to drive 13's and faster is a quick street car IMO. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

11-21-2002, 08:43 PM	#7
DAN-MAN Confederate Cowboy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 546	I voted 11.0-11.5. Anything that is just plain fast and can be driven anywhere is my idea of a fast street car. Daniel. __________________ DAN-MAN RHC MEMBER #25

11-21-2002, 09:42 PM	#10
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	i know a couple of bankers that have new 911 turbos as their daily drivers.........what do those runs, 11's??? i've sat in them and they seem pretty damn comfortable and fairly docile in downtown work traffic __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

11-21-2002, 10:19 PM	#12
20LbsBoost Guest Posts: n/a	No, the go-go juice shouldn't count. I don't consider that power adder a part of your typically quick daily driver. When I mean daily driver I'm talking about the same type of driving you typically see with the car you use on a daily basis with the same type of care and maintenance. NOS for power requires constant fill-ups after several uses. Something your wife wouldn't be interested in keeping up with. That's outside the boundaries of simple oil changes and gas fill ups. I suppose I should have included a detailed description of "daily driver" to include the type of maintenance and care you'd give your typical 4 cyl Grand Am. That would be the occaisional stop at the car wash, 3000 mile oil change and regular stops for gas. It would be a car you'd put 12,000-15,000 miles a year on, pick up the kids from school, go to the mall, pick up mom at the airport 45 minutes away, go back and forth to work and sit in rush hour traffic and is (what you'd consider) quick at the stop-light-wars that would ensue in the mean time. That to me is your regular quick daily driver. I don't care if you consider this a Delorean, '69 Mach I, Porche 911 turbo, or Chevrolet Safari satation wagon. I'm not going to get into the type of car one chooses but it'd need to be a daily driver one would live with as described above. If you think you could do all that with the car you outlined, then that's the car you choose. Simple? Let's hear it!....

11-21-2002, 11:06 PM	#13
BLACK85GT Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tampa,FLORIDA Posts: 340	I vote 13.0 as a quick street car. __________________ 5.0, Holley heads, 1.7 Scorp Rockers, Stealth intake, Holley 600 carb, Holley Mech. Fuel pump, MSD 6Digital, MSD distributor, Hotchkis upper/lower rear control arms, FMS B Springs, 3:73 (8.8) rear. Production # 9,377

11-22-2002, 12:37 AM	#14
Special K Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Montreal, Quebec (Canada) Posts: 246	Yeah low 13s is fast for a daily driver. Thats what im planning to run with my grocery getter. All year around. Rain, snow, whatever! See there is advantages not have low end power! __________________ 2000 Honda Civic SiR @ 6psi 13.738 @ 102.943 mph 1989 Ford Mustang LX Coupe 5.0L (RIP)

11-22-2002, 01:48 AM	#15
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	Dean, then I guess my car doesn't fit your descriptioin. Sorry, but I am much more anal about my Mustang. It is my daily driver, and no I wouldn't consider the amount of time I would spend under the hood of a big block to be a whole lot more than under the hood of my car. I'm always tinkering and playing with stuff. That's what makes me a car guy, so yeah, I wouldn't mind being stuck with the car I described. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

11-22-2002, 02:43 AM	#17
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	My car does low 13's, I drive it daily from march to november and there's still plenty of faster cars out there, I vote for 12.0-12.5. Another question, does it have to run these times with the same tires you daily drive on? If so, that puts my car back to the high 13's. __________________ 393W: AFR 205's, hydraulic roller, TKO600.

11-22-2002, 12:49 PM	#18
stevstum Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salem, Or. USA Posts: 233	I don't care as long as it is faster than the rice burners around hear __________________ Steve Stumbaugh 89 LX 5.0 5sp, Removed air silencer Mac High Flow Air Filter Motorcraft 8mm wires Autolite platinum plugs Mac O/R h-pipe Flowmaster American Thunder 3:55 gears Accel Super Coil (42,000) 75 mm Mass Air Meter

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