Fox VS SN-95???????

[Lazer50]

Hi,

I have a question about the performance of a fox vs a SN-95 mustang. I recently had a 95 GT 5.0 5 Spd and this car was a slug, wouldn't pull past 3500rpms for the life of it, it was bone stock and had 153k Miles on it. Now i was very dissappointed with the performance of this car (My STOCK 67 would have kicked its ass), now i keep hearing how fast the 88-93 Mustangs are and im just wondering if the 5.0 i had was a dud or what. I also think i wasn't expecting a lot of performance from it Mid-Low 15's. Can Anyone give me some input on the performance differences of a 94-95 compared to a 88-93 car. I found a 91 LX for a really good price with low miles and i don't want to get another 16 second car.

Steven

PS I already sold the 95, beside its performance it started leaking coolant from the firewall somehow, check engine lights were coming on and the transmission felt very funny shifting.

[chatcher]

i think you will like the fox lx better but your 95 did have 153k on it and unless someone rebuilt the motor im sure it wasnt living up to its true potential im not a regular at the 1/4 mile but when i did go my car was solid in the mid 14,s with nothing more than a cat back and cold air intake i also added weight by putting the saleen ground effect package on it ill also say that the car is probably faster than that if it had the right driver instead of me

[Lazer50]

yeah, from everything i have read the fox platform is a faster stock and cheaper to modify, but i didn't think the 95 would have been that much slower but, live and learn. Anyway, from what i have seen on this board and some magazine articles a fox will be in the 13's with exhaust, CAI, and some 4.10's w/slicks, anyone have some input on that? Also anyone have an idea how many miles can be put on the engine before performance starts falling off, the car im looking at has 78k miles. Thanks for help


Steven

[chatcher]

my car has 90k on the clock and it ran the times i told you about with that on the clock i never had a sn95 car but my friends who owned fox cars that got sn cars werent overly excited about the cars power still i think your prob was largely an exasperated motor

[Hethj7]

Stock for stock, the SN-95 5.0's will be slower. Remember, they were down 10 hp in 05-95 (rated at 215) because of the intake design to fit in the Sn-95. They are also heavier cars. And yours was an auto.

But, it also sounds like you didn't quite have a gem of a Mustang there. 153,000 miles will slow any engine down and you said you thought you had transmission problems.

Anyway, I love my Fox, but they are getting up there in age. They rattle more than the Sn-95's. As far as the Foxes being cheaper to modify, I wouldn't really say they are. They may be easier to make go faster, because of their weight advatage, but not really cheaper. If you are talking just about the 5.0 engine, the engine is the same, so parts are the same regardless of what chassis the engine is sitting in.

[Lazer50]

No my sn-95 was not in the best condition but it was a 5 spd and i knew it would be slower than a fox, but not that much slower, anyway. Thanks for the help guys, i looked at the lx and the body was really beat up, but i found a 89 GT w/80k miles on it so im hoping to talk to them next week.

Steven

[Hethj7]

Oops! I thought I read yours was an auto. In any case, good luck with the 88GT. Hopefully its in good shape and you can drive it home.

[White GT]

3.27 gear can help a little. My friend did the swap on his 96 (4.6) and it's come closer to my 88Gt with 3.08. He got 2.73 from factory.

I still finding that my fox is less civilized

[Hethj7]

Yea, gearing wll have a huge effect on the way the cars feels on the "ass dyno". I jumped from 2.73 to 3.73 and there was a huge difference.

[sedanman]

Sounds like something was wrong with your SN95. They should run low 15's stock even with that many miles. From what I have found miles don't really hurt 5L performance. I had a H/C package on my car at 156K and was running 13.2@105.5 with a basic H/C. Ezridn on the board ran 14.4's with a 87GT 5spd STOCK with 208K on it. My freinds with 197K went 14.4's with bolt ons and 3.55's. I would say something was wrong with your car.

As for the differences the fox's are a good 200lbs lighter, all the 87-92's had forged pistons which means they like power adders better. In 94-95 they changed the intake and it is more restrictive but they get alot of pluses like real brakes and a fancy interior. The foxes are easier to mod and cheaper.

Do full exhaust, gears, shifter and pullies and you will love the way the car feels!

[Dark_5.0]

Foxbody stangs are a great performance platform.

Dollar for dollar and mod for mod they cant be beat.

[Ieatcamaros]

Foxbody stangs are a great performance platform.

Dollar for dollar and mod for mod they cant be beat

ditto.