Could I have hurt something???

[Chris_H]

Ok on our way home last night from the fireworks, I stopped to show my wife how the line-lock works. I did my normal routine with it in 2nd gear, ran it up to about 3500 and started letting the clutch out. The car bogged a little so I gave ot more gas, and it started to rev higher like the tires were spinning. So I held it about 4500, and I couldn't hear the tires spinning like I usually do. Instead it sounded like I was pushing my front tires while they were locked. The car was moving some which seems to be normal for me on these burn outs. So I released the lock, and the car started moving slowly, like the tires were spinning a lot. After I finally got it up to speed in 2nd gear, I slowed down some and we went home. Well as I came up to a stope sign, the clutch felt REAL weak. Almost felt like my brakes do when I have excessive fade from heat and use. So I took it easy the rest of the way home, with it smelling like burnt brakes. Almost like a semi going down a hill. Anyways, I checked the spot today where I did the burn out, and NOTHING. No marks in the road at all. So, what happened? Did I start to burn out my clutch somehow?? The car smelt like brakes again today after I took it for a ride, and the clutch still feels funny. Its not engaging as low as it used to. When I dropped it in 2nd to pass somebody, it took right off and I couldn't feel the clutch slipping, but it doesn't feel right in traffic when shifting or starting off either. Please help because I can not afford to be buying a new clutch, or anything else for that matter right now. The clutch has about 30,000 miles on it.

Chris

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1987 LX, rebuilt 306, Mac shorty headers 1 5/8, 2 1/2" Mac off road h-pipe, 2 1/2" 2 Chamber Flowmasters cat-back, Mac underdrive pullies, 65mm Throttle Body/Spacer, 3.55, K&N, Tremec 3550, King Cobra Clutch, Steeda Tri-Ax, Steeda Adj. Clutch Quadrant, Autometer gauges, White face gauges, blue silicone radiator hoses.
Best times:
2.331 60ft, 9.966 @ 71.069 1/8 mile, 15.491 @ 91.846 1/4 mile at 4000 ft. elevation on street tires
207.0 RWHP 279.7 RWTQ

[BrentK7]

you know i had the same problem about a month ago, and i never found out what it was, but the next day that i drove the car it seemed fine, weird stuff.

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[green94droptop]

At the risk of sounding like a dousch bag, forgive me for asking this question; why do you try to burn out in 2nd gear. Could that be the reason you weren't going anywhere? Maybe the clutch was slipping really bad?

I thought you're suppost to use line locks in 1st gear.

Brad

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Green '94 GT conv. -- K&N filter charger, FMS 9mm wires, Accel hipo cap/rotor, 180* thermo, 14* timing, PRO 5.0, off road H-pipe in front of 2 chamber flow's, Steeda subframe connectors w/ crossbrace, stock, stock, stock, yeah and that's stock too.

My 'Stang

[Dark_5.0]

There was a post about a week or two ago in the blue oval lounge that said "Any mustang guy should like this" then when you click on the link it shows a guy in a formula firebird thinking that hes doing a burnout but he is actually frying his clutch and then at the bottom it said "There are some things that money cant buy good thing that a new clutch isnt one of them"

I thought that this was funny as hell since it was happening to a chevy guy at least in your case there wasnt someone there to video tape the whole thing.

This has never happened to me and hopefully it never will. You can bet your *** that if it does happen to me and there is someone there with a cam corder they will not get away with the tape. Wouldnt it suck to be the butt of all the jokes on a camaro board cause the video got out.

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88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers mac cold air fender kit cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires. Edelbrock 1 1/2 inch drop springs.
best 60 ft 2.14, best 1/8th 9.65, best 1/4 15.2 @89mph, Stock gears and 3000+ Altitude

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[foxandfoe]

i did the same in my firebird except in first
i thought i was burning out the car was in
the dirt i did not here rocks but could smell it looked over and my e brake was.
well there went that clutch had to put a new
one in you will have to do the same soon
the burnt smell was definetly the clutch
its not a hard job it takes me hour and a half with no problems word of advice soke
all the bolt esp. exsuast bolts down with penetrating oil dirve it then soke some more and drive then it will be easier the heat helps it soke in. definetly get the fly wheel
shaved your wasting your time if you dont
the clutch will wear faster on fw side
and pedal probly wont feel wright i'm ase
certified and have done tons of these

[Chris_H]

Brad, the reason I was doing the burnout in 2nd, because every other time I have done it in 2nd compared to 1st, I have gotten a better burnout, an didn't have to worry about the rpms jumping way up on me. This lasted for about 5 seconds. I don't know if that is really long enough to burn the clutch out, or just enough to wear it down pretty bad. Like I said that car seems to drive fine, but the fact that the clutch pedal feels funny is whats worrying me. I guess we will have to wait and see how this turns out huh?

Chris

[Casper5.0]

Hey man,

I did a similiar "clutch" burnout in my old car and it felt wierd for a bout a day afterward. A 5 second one wouldn't hurt a decent clutch i wouldn't think. Have you tried adjusting your clutch by pulling back on the pedal until it pops? That's the way you adjust the clutch quadrant. Hope it gets better.

RYAN

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94 cobra, steeda tri-ax, ultra flo's

14.2 @ 99 (stock)

[Chris_H]

Well it is a King Cobra clutch set up. I have the Steeda adjustable quadrant but I haven't attempted to adjust the clutch any. Believe it or not, I'm not too sure on how to adjust the clutch with that quadrant. i'm afraid I'll adjust it too much, and not know it. Anybody know how to really tune/adjust a clutch with this quadrant?

Chris

[Chris_H]

Ok, I drove my car to and from work today. 40 miles round trip, and I could smell the cluth burning, if thats what the smell is. After talking with you guys, and a few guys at work, they think its the clutch too. How much damage am I doing to this clutch by driving it? I can't get the car to the mechanics until tuesday afternoon. Am I better off letting my wife drive it 15 miles round trip to work than I am taking it 40? I would love to stop driving it now and have it worked on, but we both need our cars to get to work in. Any help here is really needed. I am feeling pretty dumb about the whole thing, especially since my wife was with me to witness it!

Chris

[90dpscoupe]

Did you do the burnout, on a somewhat medium traffic traveled road? if so i have seen tire marks dissapear quick, from just being driven over, they wear off quick, even thick ones.

But hey i got a clutch problem too, does yours make any noises non? any clicking, or howling noise? im getting my clutch installed tomorrow at 8 am, so im about to go to sleep, but it turns out im not getting the steeda quadrant as originally planned , you guys think im still gonna have problems?

foxandfoe, i cant afford a new flywheel, you think a resurfaced one will be alright? a new one would be nice, but why not resurface, i trust the accuracy of a machine.

[foxandfoe]

90dpscoupe i didn't say you need to get a new flywheel just get it resurfaced (shaved)
. but getting it shaved is very important. if your smelling it burn while your driving it
doesnt have long ive seen them wear 1/16
grooves in the flywheel and pressure plate
the with of the disc. what sounds like happened is you glazed the flywheel and
pressure plate. A disc cant hold well to a glazed surface so it will slip and rapidly wear the disc into the flywheel and p plate.
*** well as the lining. good luck and be
safe if you do it yourself (jackstands no cinder blocks ect.) Ive seen to many people get hurt and even killed under cars. dont
trust it for a second and do it on level concrete. also the pentrating oil is good idea even if you pay somebody he will be gratefull maybe even be cheaper than if he has to wrestle bolts ive wasted many days on stuborn bolts.

[Chris_H]

Well the smell isn't too bad, yet, but I can still smell it. Something I don't like. I guess I will have the wife drive it to work the next few days, and hope that nothing happens to it. She'd be pretty pissed if something did happen! The earliest I can get this done is Tuesday. 90dpscoupe: No noises thus far, knock on wood. The clutch feels a little funny, but it feels a lot better than it did that night. Its not a well traveled road, and thats how I was able to tell it didn't leave any tracks. What a boneheaded move on my part. Oh well, something to learn from I guess. Anybody have any suggestions for a new clutch? I didn't much care for this King Cobra, or at least the pedal effort on it. Would prefer a different clucth so long as this pressure plate and flywheel are still in decent shape.

Chris