Best race EVER!! Im still shaking.. :-D

Skyman · 02-22-2001, 02:01 AM

Ok, excuse me if I suck at typing right now, but I'm still so pumped on adrenaline after this race I can barely type.

Heres the run down on everything...

A friend of a friend has a 79 El camino. He just spent 8k putting the engine/rear/tranny together.

Its a 388 Stroker with 12.5:1 compression, Some kind of aftermarket IRON head with 2.02" intake valve. Soild roller cam, Victor Junior intake and 750 carb. It runs on race gas, and goes out through full length headers to 2.5" exhaust.

The rear end is a full posi with 4.11's and a turbo 350 transmission with shift kit and 2800stall. It has skinny's up front with 245 radials out back on weld rims.

So the car just got 600miles on it today so he calls me up and wants to race tonight. I say ok. They come over and when I hear this thing pull up, I think OH **** ! This thing was the nastiest sounding car ever! The idle was just lopeing and snapping and crackling in between lopes. This was exhaust to wake up the whole neighborhood. I thought my car was loud!

My friend thats the only other ford guy in town is tottaly going for me, but hes begging me to put on the ET streets cuz this car is so fast, but I didn't.

Anyways, we go out to the only street to race. Some guys go to the end in a truck to mark the finish. We line em up and both deciede to go from a 5mph roll since traction isnt even possible till 3rd for both of us.

We give the nod at 5mph and he jumps it a hair before me. I slam the pedal in first and just spin to 6000rpm almost instantly. I hit second hard and start fishtailing and I fall a little more than 3/4 of a car behind him. I let off and punch it again to gain traction and I'm a full length behind. I powershift 3rd harder than I have ever before and I start pulling on him. I pull up to his door and I powershift 4th and pull dead even with him. We hold dead even all the way through 4th gear. I could look right over at him like we were siting still. It was DEAD EVEN, neither one of us inching either way. We pass the truck and hit the brakes. I look back and my ford buddy is jumping in the road hes so happy!

We went and hid for a half hour to let the cops clear and we talked. The guy was kinda irritated that my car kept up with him with my lowly 302 and 9:1 compression!!

I couldn't believe it either! I was so estactic! 12.5:1 compression 388 stroker with a solid roller cam! I mean he shifts this sob at 7100rpm!

Our friends at the end pull up and they couldn't tell who won either. They said it was so close nothing could tell. We were dead even.

If I would have had traction I could have burned him out of the hole and won the race.

My car is running soo good now like I said after I tuned it all up.

This was the best race I've ever had! The guy w/ the 388 and I are going to go in on some dyno tuning next month and do it together so it all ends well!

Skyler

P.S. Our other buddies went home on the main road and they said they saw 7 cop cars flying through town out to where we raced! This is of 10 cop cars total in our town!

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more.
13.2@106mph
-Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works!

Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph

StoplightWarrior · 02-22-2001, 02:12 AM

That's awesome! You must be in the twelves now. That must suck for that guy though, cause even though your car is definitely fast, if I were to race my new combo the first time, and not win, Id be pissed. Score another one for Ford. Keep up the good work, and keep us posted on your new times.

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Black 2000 GT
Magnaflow Catback, K&N

smooth · 02-22-2001, 02:22 AM

talk about out of tune vs. perfect tuning. how heavy is that thing? i also think the 2.02 valves are small for a well breathing roller motor. maybe he has weak heads? 7100rpms and 388cubes though..

Unit 5302 · 02-22-2001, 02:23 AM

Awesome race Sky, betcha wish you had the ET's on there though!

That's one hell of a run you got put together.

smooth · 02-22-2001, 02:23 AM

awesome race btw.

302 LX Eric · 02-22-2001, 10:07 AM

Great race Sky!

Not to take anything away from that great race, but has this guy tuned the car at all? Or, does it just weigh like 5000 lbs? Maybe he's got the wrong combination of parts?

Not that any of that matters though - cause your 302 stayed right with his bad 388 stroker w/12.5:1 comp. Way to go!!!

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1991 5.0 LX Coupe -37,800 miles

13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60'

Pro-Charger D-1SC on the way!!!

fastang · 02-22-2001, 10:23 AM

Sweet! It must feel good. I bet you couldnt sleep for a while! After a good race I never can. I lie there for a while pondering my combo and what Im going to buy next. You seem done with yours though, Are you still going to swap in that 351? With the way your car seems to be running now you may not want to. Good job with the race and let me know how the dyno runs turn out.

Rebel79 · 02-22-2001, 12:38 PM

Awesome race Sky! So when are you gunna race me huh?

Are you still up in Fremont?

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1994 Mustang Cobra
308ci, Vortech S-trim 11#, ported GT-40 heads, E-303 cam, FMS 1 5/8 headers, BBK Offroad H-pipe, 2-chamber flows, and several other goodies.
Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

Skyman · 02-22-2001, 12:41 PM

I have no idea what a 79 Elcamino weights, but its a pretty nice lookin car.

His combo must not be sorted out right though really. It sounds mean as hell though, like a full out dragster.
He's swapping on a Deamon 750 carb next week and loosing the edelbrock.

The sad thing is this thing is a trailer car for the track and can't even run street gas!

My car could be a daily driver and I ran <b>87</b> octane during the race!!

I wish I had a better launch so I could have won, but thats the way it goes.

This race was almost identical to a race I had when I got my car up and running a year ago against a heavily modded 97 camaro z28.
Same exact results except I won by a fender.
The first gear spin, fishtail 2nd, let off, nail it, powershift 3rd, gain even, powershift 4th and I held a fender ahead the rest of the way.

That camaro had 11.5:1 compression too

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more.
13.2@106mph
-Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works!

Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph

90dpscoupe · 02-22-2001, 01:38 PM

Thats a nice video you got there on your ride page too

I bet those cops were looking all over for cars making all that noise lol, im sure that camino with that compression was loud, plus your car sounds rowdy too....nice

Thats why we all love our stangs

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90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 97.80
Best 60': 2.0047

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

FivepointOH · 02-22-2001, 04:45 PM

Nice race man! 7 out of the 10 cops in your town coming after you, better be careful and lay low for a while. Slap those slicks on and go smoke his *** !

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92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 mph before the headers and hpipe

Nitrous Al · 02-22-2001, 05:39 PM

Good race, Sky! The Camino weighs about 3500-3700lbs. and has no weight over it's tires. Tell you friend to buy a 5.0!

Fox Body · 02-22-2001, 06:46 PM

Ah Skyman, that was wonderful! Thanks for sharing (getting misty-eyed). You made my night.

"because, no one’s really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends." ---Revenge of the Nerds

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'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1.5" MAC full length headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55s (Now that's more like it!)

Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
14 x 4" K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon)

fastang · 02-22-2001, 08:44 PM

Sky, I just watched your video and now I know what you mean by spinning in first and fishtailing second. You have a very nice fox but one of the worst traction problems I have ever seen. Your car is definitely worth a 12. Get some controll arms and drag radials and whoop that camino.

smooth · 02-23-2001, 12:03 AM

i know what you mean fastang. my friends saw those videos and couldn't believe that was only a 106mph car leaving dual posi marks like that, hanging it out 3 feet and still smoking well into second. afoaf (went to middleschool with this kid) has a pretty well built 97 t/a (he bought it built from af-heads, cam, longtubes, no cats, blown rear within the first week of owning it now 12bolt/4.10) and he does not fishtail/spin/smoke like that at all on a very hard 1-2 w/ 285(? i think) futuras.. that thing has to run atleast one hundred and mid teens, tons more tq at any point in the rpm band and more gear to boot. it has to be sky's racecraft suspension.

1989GT · 02-23-2001, 12:13 AM

**** yeah sky! Sounds like a really good race. I wish I could find one like that.

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89GT,T-5Z, D.S.S. 306 shortblock w\main support, B-303 cam, Cobra intake, GT40P heads, 1.72rr, MAC "P" headers, MAC off-road H-Pipe, MAC true-fit w\tips, 373's...and the list goes on!
Throttle Junkie Powered by Ford!
12.824 @ 107.05 MPH
PVT Blankenship leaving for BCT 14MAR01
MOS 67 Romeo

Skyman · 02-23-2001, 02:10 AM

I know guys, mine just wont hook worth crap!

Last night I was fishtailing posi tracks all over the road till 3rd gear.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more.
13.2@106mph
-Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works!

Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph

Skyman · 02-23-2001, 05:43 AM

I have a bunch more videos of my car, but here is one before any fuel system mods, no FPR, no 24lb injectors or fuel pump only 10* timing, and NO off road H pipe. Car was way down on power compared to now.
http://members.nbci.com/skyman2615/video/skyler.mpg

When I find the other vids I'll post em too.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more.
13.2@106mph
-Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works!

Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph

fastang · 02-23-2001, 02:36 PM

DAMN!!! I have decided NOT to EVER race you.

Your car sounds mean as he11. I realy want to see how you do at Carlsbad next month. Are you going to get a set of DR's? or something else to controll that nasty fox before then?

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

Skyman · 02-23-2001, 03:07 PM

Well I have a pair of 11.5x26 ET Streets

.
I have to get some new lower control arms or new springs before they are going to fit though. The car sits too low as it is. I had spring spacers in before, but they hurt weight transfer and made the ride unbareably stiff.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more.
13.2@106mph
-Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works!

Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph

02-22-2001, 02:01 AM	#1
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Best race EVER!! Im still shaking.. :-D Ok, excuse me if I suck at typing right now, but I'm still so pumped on adrenaline after this race I can barely type. Heres the run down on everything... A friend of a friend has a 79 El camino. He just spent 8k putting the engine/rear/tranny together. Its a 388 Stroker with 12.5:1 compression, Some kind of aftermarket IRON head with 2.02" intake valve. Soild roller cam, Victor Junior intake and 750 carb. It runs on race gas, and goes out through full length headers to 2.5" exhaust. The rear end is a full posi with 4.11's and a turbo 350 transmission with shift kit and 2800stall. It has skinny's up front with 245 radials out back on weld rims. So the car just got 600miles on it today so he calls me up and wants to race tonight. I say ok. They come over and when I hear this thing pull up, I think OH **** ! This thing was the nastiest sounding car ever! The idle was just lopeing and snapping and crackling in between lopes. This was exhaust to wake up the whole neighborhood. I thought my car was loud! My friend thats the only other ford guy in town is tottaly going for me, but hes begging me to put on the ET streets cuz this car is so fast, but I didn't. Anyways, we go out to the only street to race. Some guys go to the end in a truck to mark the finish. We line em up and both deciede to go from a 5mph roll since traction isnt even possible till 3rd for both of us. We give the nod at 5mph and he jumps it a hair before me. I slam the pedal in first and just spin to 6000rpm almost instantly. I hit second hard and start fishtailing and I fall a little more than 3/4 of a car behind him. I let off and punch it again to gain traction and I'm a full length behind. I powershift 3rd harder than I have ever before and I start pulling on him. I pull up to his door and I powershift 4th and pull dead even with him. We hold dead even all the way through 4th gear. I could look right over at him like we were siting still. It was DEAD EVEN, neither one of us inching either way. We pass the truck and hit the brakes. I look back and my ford buddy is jumping in the road hes so happy! We went and hid for a half hour to let the cops clear and we talked. The guy was kinda irritated that my car kept up with him with my lowly 302 and 9:1 compression!! I couldn't believe it either! I was so estactic! 12.5:1 compression 388 stroker with a solid roller cam! I mean he shifts this sob at 7100rpm! Our friends at the end pull up and they couldn't tell who won either. They said it was so close nothing could tell. We were dead even. If I would have had traction I could have burned him out of the hole and won the race. My car is running soo good now like I said after I tuned it all up. This was the best race I've ever had! The guy w/ the 388 and I are going to go in on some dyno tuning next month and do it together so it all ends well! Skyler P.S. Our other buddies went home on the main road and they said they saw 7 cop cars flying through town out to where we raced! This is of 10 cop cars total in our town! ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more. 13.2@106mph -Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works! Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph

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02-22-2001, 02:12 AM	#2
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	That's awesome! You must be in the twelves now. That must suck for that guy though, cause even though your car is definitely fast, if I were to race my new combo the first time, and not win, Id be pissed. Score another one for Ford. Keep up the good work, and keep us posted on your new times. ------------------ Black 2000 GT Magnaflow Catback, K&N

02-22-2001, 02:22 AM	#3
smooth Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: illinois, USA Posts: 649	talk about out of tune vs. perfect tuning. how heavy is that thing? i also think the 2.02 valves are small for a well breathing roller motor. maybe he has weak heads? 7100rpms and 388cubes though..

02-22-2001, 02:23 AM	#4
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Awesome race Sky, betcha wish you had the ET's on there though! That's one hell of a run you got put together.

02-22-2001, 10:07 AM	#6
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	Great race Sky! Not to take anything away from that great race, but has this guy tuned the car at all? Or, does it just weigh like 5000 lbs? Maybe he's got the wrong combination of parts? Not that any of that matters though - cause your 302 stayed right with his bad 388 stroker w/12.5:1 comp. Way to go!!! ------------------ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe -37,800 miles 13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60' Pro-Charger D-1SC on the way!!!

02-22-2001, 10:23 AM	#7
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Sweet! It must feel good. I bet you couldnt sleep for a while! After a good race I never can. I lie there for a while pondering my combo and what Im going to buy next. You seem done with yours though, Are you still going to swap in that 351? With the way your car seems to be running now you may not want to. Good job with the race and let me know how the dyno runs turn out.

02-22-2001, 12:38 PM	#8
Rebel79 News Editor Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 2,101	Awesome race Sky! So when are you gunna race me huh? Are you still up in Fremont? ------------------ 1994 Mustang Cobra 308ci, Vortech S-trim 11#, ported GT-40 heads, E-303 cam, FMS 1 5/8 headers, BBK Offroad H-pipe, 2-chamber flows, and several other goodies. Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

02-22-2001, 12:41 PM	#9
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I have no idea what a 79 Elcamino weights, but its a pretty nice lookin car. His combo must not be sorted out right though really. It sounds mean as hell though, like a full out dragster. He's swapping on a Deamon 750 carb next week and loosing the edelbrock. The sad thing is this thing is a trailer car for the track and can't even run street gas! My car could be a daily driver and I ran <b>87</b> octane during the race!! I wish I had a better launch so I could have won, but thats the way it goes. This race was almost identical to a race I had when I got my car up and running a year ago against a heavily modded 97 camaro z28. Same exact results except I won by a fender. The first gear spin, fishtail 2nd, let off, nail it, powershift 3rd, gain even, powershift 4th and I held a fender ahead the rest of the way. That camaro had 11.5:1 compression too Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more. 13.2@106mph -Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works! Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph

02-22-2001, 01:38 PM	#10
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	Thats a nice video you got there on your ride page too I bet those cops were looking all over for cars making all that noise lol, im sure that camino with that compression was loud, plus your car sounds rowdy too....nice Thats why we all love our stangs ------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 97.80 Best 60': 2.0047 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

02-22-2001, 04:45 PM	#11
FivepointOH Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Sugar Land, Tx USA Posts: 478	Nice race man! 7 out of the 10 cops in your town coming after you, better be careful and lay low for a while. Slap those slicks on and go smoke his *** ! ------------------ 92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 mph before the headers and hpipe

02-22-2001, 05:39 PM	#12
Nitrous Al Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Everett, MA Posts: 417	Good race, Sky! The Camino weighs about 3500-3700lbs. and has no weight over it's tires. Tell you friend to buy a 5.0!

02-22-2001, 06:46 PM	#13
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Ah Skyman, that was wonderful! Thanks for sharing (getting misty-eyed). You made my night. "because, no one’s really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends." ---Revenge of the Nerds ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1.5" MAC full length headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters 8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55s (Now that's more like it!) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II 14 x 4" K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon)

02-22-2001, 08:44 PM	#14
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Sky, I just watched your video and now I know what you mean by spinning in first and fishtailing second. You have a very nice fox but one of the worst traction problems I have ever seen. Your car is definitely worth a 12. Get some controll arms and drag radials and whoop that camino.

02-23-2001, 12:03 AM	#15
smooth Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: illinois, USA Posts: 649	i know what you mean fastang. my friends saw those videos and couldn't believe that was only a 106mph car leaving dual posi marks like that, hanging it out 3 feet and still smoking well into second. afoaf (went to middleschool with this kid) has a pretty well built 97 t/a (he bought it built from af-heads, cam, longtubes, no cats, blown rear within the first week of owning it now 12bolt/4.10) and he does not fishtail/spin/smoke like that at all on a very hard 1-2 w/ 285(? i think) futuras.. that thing has to run atleast one hundred and mid teens, tons more tq at any point in the rpm band and more gear to boot. it has to be sky's racecraft suspension.

02-23-2001, 12:13 AM	#16
1989GT Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Cincinnati,OH Posts: 1,511	**** yeah sky! Sounds like a really good race. I wish I could find one like that. ------------------ 89GT,T-5Z, D.S.S. 306 shortblock w\main support, B-303 cam, Cobra intake, GT40P heads, 1.72rr, MAC "P" headers, MAC off-road H-Pipe, MAC true-fit w\tips, 373's...and the list goes on! Throttle Junkie Powered by Ford! 12.824 @ 107.05 MPH PVT Blankenship leaving for BCT 14MAR01 MOS 67 Romeo

02-23-2001, 02:10 AM	#17
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I know guys, mine just wont hook worth crap! Last night I was fishtailing posi tracks all over the road till 3rd gear. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more. 13.2@106mph -Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works! Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph

02-23-2001, 05:43 AM	#18
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I have a bunch more videos of my car, but here is one before any fuel system mods, no FPR, no 24lb injectors or fuel pump only 10* timing, and NO off road H pipe. Car was way down on power compared to now. http://members.nbci.com/skyman2615/video/skyler.mpg When I find the other vids I'll post em too. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more. 13.2@106mph -Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works! Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph

02-23-2001, 02:36 PM	#19
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	DAMN!!! I have decided NOT to EVER race you. Your car sounds mean as he11. I realy want to see how you do at Carlsbad next month. Are you going to get a set of DR's? or something else to controll that nasty fox before then? ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-23-2001, 03:07 PM	#20
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Well I have a pair of 11.5x26 ET Streets . I have to get some new lower control arms or new springs before they are going to fit though. The car sits too low as it is. I had spring spacers in before, but they hurt weight transfer and made the ride unbareably stiff. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and a whole lot more. 13.2@106mph -Shooting for 12's and a 351 slowly in the works! Stock-94 Integra 15.48@91mph