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[Mach 1]

what in the hell are u talking about? Engines, computers, nuts, bolts, detroit, asia, its all the same.

So you can tear down a 4.6 ford with your eyes closed but your afraid to touch an acura 3.2? Doesnt make a whole lot of sense.

[2001GTPEWTER]

I'll use small words this time...Foreign economy cars are easier to maintain...I'm sorry, take-care-of than a lot of foreign builds..Engine and drivetrain-wise anyway.
I don't know why I even replied to that.

[69fastback]

Unit 5302 I totaly agree with your last statement. There is defenitly some worrying to do. Some changes need to be made or the big 3 will be Toyota, Honda and Hyundia or something along those lines. I am just one of those guys that will always bleed ford blue and hope they will be around for a long time.

[stanger66]

FORD ONLY IN MY BOOK!!

Ive tried other cars honda civic, toyota camry, chysler products(cj5-7, spirit, pontiac sunterd, chevy cavalier, bmw 318i, vw jetta, and I'll kill myself before I would even think buying anything but FORD.

The best running and long lastng car I've had Is 89' GR. MARQUIS I got 429,978 miles out of it and still had the original drivetrain in it. Never had any problems other than normal maintaince issues.

Hell I got 215K out of my 87' stang lx 5.0 before I totalled it. (big tree at 110 mph)

I have had at least 6 mustangs since Ive been driving

The #1 car if I had to money (150k +) ford GT and drive until it died.
74-78 mustang II cobra w/600+hp I will eventually get and been looking for.
If you are looking for a minivan buy a FREESTAR we got 74k no problem what so ever. Paid for extended warranty and never got to use it-waste of money.

FORD ONLY HERE

[Mach 1]

I meant the honda was boring and ugly. Nissan has a more appealing, sporty design and better performace than the honda for the most part.

And yes, being able to smoke the tires on a stock car these days does mean it had good performance

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Mach 1

I meant the honda was boring and ugly. Nissan has a more appealing, sporty design and better performace than the honda for the most part.

And yes, being able to smoke the tires on a stock car these days does mean it had good performance

Wasn't really meaning to respond to the "boring/ugly" assessment. I was thinking more about the smoking the tires through 1st, 2nd, chirping 3rd, 4th comment. A car would be lucky to run 15's with that kind of tire spin from what I've seen over the years.

Rev

[Mach 1]

Its all relevant. If a new car that runs 15's can break the tires loose, its not bad compared to the majority of 18 second grocery getters.

I dont think he was comparing them to 12-13 second cars with aftermarket mods.

[Unit 5302]

Truckworld is a different story. The Toyota Tundra is an F-150 copied as much as possible while avoiding lawsuits (like the one Ford filed after Toyota announced their plans to name their truck the T-150).

The foreign guys do seem to have quality issues in the trucks for some reason. I suppose it might be a size/weight thing. Look at all the trouble Subaru had with the SVX after producing a lot of solid smaller cars. The SVX's transmission just couldn't deal with the heat produced from the bigger engine, heavier weight and taller gearing.

[Mach 1]

yeah, your right, thier trucks arent as good as thier cars. I guess its experience, and they dont have it when it comes to full size trucks.

[Unit 5302]

By the way, my little sisters' Focus dropped a valve and blew the engine last night... just a tick over 100k.

I can tell you right now, she'll never own another Ford, and that folks, is how Ford gets a bad quality rep.

[Mach 1]

tell her to put oil in it next time...

[Unit 5302]

It's honestly not all that funny. They're moving this weekend, and she's expecting in a couple months so they really don't have money to throw at these types of problems. Nice that it occured one month after her last car payment.

Just as an FYI, all the scheduled maintanence, including oil changes at 3k have been done since it was brand new.

[Rev]

Aren't pick up trucks almost always light in the rear end due to their payload carrying needs? I've never seen one that would get a good launch without modifications meant to optimize traction at the expense of "truck-like" functions (Lightning comes to mind).

Spinning tires doesn't mean fast, whether stock or modded. It just means wasted power that could have been put towards forwad motion (acceleration).

Rev

[Mach 1]

they are light in the rear because theres nothing there, just a empty shell for a bed. Not because of their payload carrying needs.

traction aiding devices do nothing to hurt the payload capability . why would they? traction bars dont take away from the beds ability to carry cargo.

[Rev]

The suspensions on pick up trucks are designed to function best with the truck loaded with 1000-2000 lbs. in the bed. That's what trucks do, carry a payload. Poor traction in an unloaded condition is just a necessary trade off for that ability to haul stuff. That should seem fairly obvious from my point of view. Not that I don't like trucks, I couldn't live without one.

Rev

[Mach 1]

whatever....i couldnt have made it any clearer for you....