pulling the motor - Page 2

drudis · 04-11-2002, 07:30 AM

With an AOD, I would lean even MORE to pulling both at the same time.
I only (out of the 20+ times) pulled it this time without the trans, cause the trans came out months before the engine did.
My 351-W and C-4 tranny went in/out altogether.

With a 5-speed, you can unbolt the trans, then unbolt the bellhousing, then only yank the block (as in the photo).
WIth an AOD, its nearly impossible to put the tranny on and line up the torqueconverter and splines for the pump form under the car. TRUST ME!!! Do BOTH together, and bolt the tranny on the floor, and make suer you line everything up, and the motor rotates freely (not binding) when you put the tranny on (#1 thing to get you mad) when you have to do it all over again...

93GTDIN · 04-11-2002, 11:10 AM

Now i'm really confused... If I unbolt the flexplate from the torque converter, then I wont have to worry about lining up those splines, correct? Just a couple of bolts....

drudis · 04-11-2002, 11:58 AM

The tranny will have an input shaft. Its THIS shaft that goes into the torqueconverter. VERY hard to do under the car, because:

The torque converter will need to be bolted to the flexplate (bolted to the crank) while its attached to the engine. So you will be slipping the tranny-input-shaft onto the motor/torqueconverter.

Mach 1 · 04-11-2002, 12:47 PM

why wouldnt you leave the converter installed on the tranny input shaft?

It would make sense to me to do this with the tranny in the car, to simply unbolt the flexplate from the converter, and remove the engine and flexplate together, leaving the tranny and converter still together.

Then simply drop the motor down, and bolt the tranny/converter to the engine/ flexplate respectively.

Am i missing something?

drudis · 04-11-2002, 12:53 PM

OK (oops) you're right...

I just have been playing with my T5 and TKO too long to remember that you can leave the converter on the tranny, unlike you need to bolt the pressure-plate onto the flywheel (mixing the two installs together, and making no sense...).

93GTDIN · 04-11-2002, 01:52 PM

so once the motor is out, which would you all recommend?
a) simple rebuild, +heads
b) stroker rebuild, use stock heads

both scenarios involve me ditching the blower.

93GTDIN · 04-11-2002, 01:53 PM

also, if I were to buy longtubes, could I install the motor back in the car with the longtubes already bolted on?

Mach 1 · 04-11-2002, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drudis
OK (oops) you're right...

I just have been playing with my T5 and TKO too long to remember that you can leave the converter on the tranny, unlike you need to bolt the pressure-plate onto the flywheel (mixing the two installs together, and making no sense...).

I dont see the need to bolt the pressure plate on to the flywheel eithier. Have you actually done any of this, or or you guessing?

90'5.0 Conv · 04-11-2002, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by drudis
OK (oops) you're right...

I just have been playing with my T5 and TKO too long to remember that you can leave the converter on the tranny, unlike you need to bolt the pressure-plate onto the flywheel (mixing the two installs together, and making no sense...).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I dont see the need to bolt the pressure plate on to the flywheel eithier. Have you actually done any of this, or or you guessing?

_________________________

LOL!

I will pull the whole package next time and I have an AOD. Drudis hit the nail on the head. I've done that once and its the last time.LOL

James

93GTDIN · 04-11-2002, 10:54 PM

i'm confused again... if I unbolt the converter from the flexplate, then the converter wont come out, thus making the only lining up to do with the 4 bolts. doesnt seem that hard, am I missing something?

Mach 1 · 04-12-2002, 12:29 AM

No, I think you got it, and I dont think it would be hard to do that way. Go for it.

302 LX Eric · 04-12-2002, 08:38 AM

Wow, a 3 page post on pulling a motor!

Who woulda thunk it?

j/k

Why are you going to junk the blower? Get a 331 stroker kit with 9:1 compression, bolt on the blower and have it professionally tuned. You will have one hell of a beast on your hands!

E

93GTDIN · 04-12-2002, 02:15 PM

My issue at this point is funds. If you can find me a 331 stroker kit with all forged parts for about a grand, I can do it, but otherwise.... i have to junk the blower.

302 LX Eric · 04-12-2002, 02:28 PM

Got it.

fiveohpatrol · 04-12-2002, 04:17 PM

well I've got an idea!
if you bring your car to my house, then I'll do all of the work for the measly fee of just one Procharger

see this way, you wouldnt have to worry about doing it yourself OR trying to find somewhere to junk the blower off too

04-11-2002, 07:30 AM	#21
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	With an AOD, I would lean even MORE to pulling both at the same time. I only (out of the 20+ times) pulled it this time without the trans, cause the trans came out months before the engine did. My 351-W and C-4 tranny went in/out altogether. With a 5-speed, you can unbolt the trans, then unbolt the bellhousing, then only yank the block (as in the photo). WIth an AOD, its nearly impossible to put the tranny on and line up the torqueconverter and splines for the pump form under the car. TRUST ME!!! Do BOTH together, and bolt the tranny on the floor, and make suer you line everything up, and the motor rotates freely (not binding) when you put the tranny on (#1 thing to get you mad) when you have to do it all over again... __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

04-11-2002, 11:10 AM	#22
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	Now i'm really confused... If I unbolt the flexplate from the torque converter, then I wont have to worry about lining up those splines, correct? Just a couple of bolts.... __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-11-2002, 11:58 AM	#23
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	The tranny will have an input shaft. Its THIS shaft that goes into the torqueconverter. VERY hard to do under the car, because: The torque converter will need to be bolted to the flexplate (bolted to the crank) while its attached to the engine. So you will be slipping the tranny-input-shaft onto the motor/torqueconverter. __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

04-11-2002, 12:47 PM	#24
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	why wouldnt you leave the converter installed on the tranny input shaft? It would make sense to me to do this with the tranny in the car, to simply unbolt the flexplate from the converter, and remove the engine and flexplate together, leaving the tranny and converter still together. Then simply drop the motor down, and bolt the tranny/converter to the engine/ flexplate respectively. Am i missing something? __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

04-11-2002, 12:53 PM	#25
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	OK (oops) you're right... I just have been playing with my T5 and TKO too long to remember that you can leave the converter on the tranny, unlike you need to bolt the pressure-plate onto the flywheel (mixing the two installs together, and making no sense...). __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

04-11-2002, 01:52 PM	#26
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	so once the motor is out, which would you all recommend? a) simple rebuild, +heads b) stroker rebuild, use stock heads both scenarios involve me ditching the blower. __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-11-2002, 01:53 PM	#27
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	also, if I were to buy longtubes, could I install the motor back in the car with the longtubes already bolted on? __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-11-2002, 08:28 PM	#29
90'5.0 Conv Long time member in and out Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Albany, Ga Posts: 343	-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by drudis OK (oops) you're right... I just have been playing with my T5 and TKO too long to remember that you can leave the converter on the tranny, unlike you need to bolt the pressure-plate onto the flywheel (mixing the two installs together, and making no sense...). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I dont see the need to bolt the pressure plate on to the flywheel eithier. Have you actually done any of this, or or you guessing? _________________________ LOL! I will pull the whole package next time and I have an AOD. Drudis hit the nail on the head. I've done that once and its the last time.LOL James __________________ 90' Mustang GT Convertible- C4 w/ manual body 4.10's soon to be 3.27's 2 Ch Flowmasters 1/8th ET 9.04

04-11-2002, 10:54 PM	#30
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	i'm confused again... if I unbolt the converter from the flexplate, then the converter wont come out, thus making the only lining up to do with the 4 bolts. doesnt seem that hard, am I missing something? __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-12-2002, 12:29 AM	#31
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	No, I think you got it, and I dont think it would be hard to do that way. Go for it. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

04-12-2002, 08:38 AM	#32
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	Wow, a 3 page post on pulling a motor! Who woulda thunk it? j/k Why are you going to junk the blower? Get a 331 stroker kit with 9:1 compression, bolt on the blower and have it professionally tuned. You will have one hell of a beast on your hands! E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

04-12-2002, 02:15 PM	#33
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	My issue at this point is funds. If you can find me a 331 stroker kit with all forged parts for about a grand, I can do it, but otherwise.... i have to junk the blower. __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-12-2002, 02:28 PM	#34
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	Got it. __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

04-12-2002, 04:17 PM	#35
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	well I've got an idea! if you bring your car to my house, then I'll do all of the work for the measly fee of just one Procharger see this way, you wouldnt have to worry about doing it yourself OR trying to find somewhere to junk the blower off too __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

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