oil - Page 2

95mustanggt · 05-01-2002, 05:34 PM

Whoa, like 3 posts while I was typing, man either I'm getting slower or this is one happening thread!

Lets all calm down!

No one's to be smoking crack on this site

93 VENOMIZED · 05-01-2002, 05:40 PM

95MUSTANGGT,

THANKS FOR YOUR BIT OF SUPPORT. I AGREE THIS THREAD GOT OFF ON THE WRONG FOOT, AND I GUESS I FLAMED IT UP A BIT, BUT I ONLY HAD GOOD INTENTIONS. I GUESS I GOT FRUSTRATED WHEN I COULDNT GET ANYONE TO EVEN LISTEN TO ME. AS FOR WHY I USE OW-30 SYNTHETIC, GO TO AMSOILS WEBSITE, WWW.AMSOIL.COM, AND READ ON. OFFERS THE BEST GAS MILEAGE AND PERFORMANCE FOR ANY CAR THAT REQUIRES 5W-30 & 10W-30. I GUESS BEING A ROOKIE, REALLY URKES PEOPLE IN HERE. I HOPE TO POST MORE PLEASANT TOPICS IN THE FUTURE.

PEACE!

1BAD89 · 05-01-2002, 05:41 PM

FYI: I do not do drugs, & I've had a few mustangs, and I have a 90 Notch. JFYIJA. It really doesn't matter if I had a mustang or not, there are quite a few people on this board that don't have mustangs, and have been around for a long time, so before you start **** like you have been, I suggest you hang around a little and get the feel of the place, before posting your insults, and assumptions within your first 5 posts. 95mustanggt: It's not that he came in here preaching, he insulted all of us numerous times for no reason. I suggest you re-read his posts.

93 VENOMIZED · 05-01-2002, 05:49 PM

1BAD89

I FIND YOUR COMMENTS OFFENSIVE. SOUNDS LIKE YOUR JUST A FRUSTRATED BOWTIE, WHO BOUGHT AN 89 STANG JUST TO GET ON THIS SITE. YOUR JUST JEALOUS, CAUSE ANY KNOWLEDGABLE AND INTELLIGENT STANG FAN WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A 93 COBRA, AND WOULD KILL TO HAVE ONE WITH 8K MILES. YOUR WANTED AT Z28.COM. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO POST YOUR IROC PICS. I CANT WAIT.

1BAD89 · 05-01-2002, 06:00 PM

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I FIND YOUR COMMENTS OFFENSIVE. SOUNDS LIKE YOUR JUST A FRUSTRATED BOWTIE, WHO BOUGHT AN 89 STANG JUST TO GET ON THIS SITE. YOUR JUST JEALOUS, CAUSE ANY KNOWLEDGABLE AND INTELLIGENT STANG FAN WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A 93 COBRA, AND WOULD KILL TO HAVE ONE WITH 8K MILES. YOUR WANTED AT Z28.COM. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO POST YOUR IROC PICS. I CANT WAIT.

I take great enjoyment that you find my comments offensive. Yup, your absolutely right! I just bought an 89 mustang to get on this site, damn you really do know everything! LMFAO. I like mustang's alot, but I woudn't kill over a 93 cobra with 8k, especially when I can smoke one hardcore for ALOT less $$$, nice cars and all, but IMO cars are meant to be driven. I'd rather be driving my mustang & enjoying it, than to just let it sit there while I drive Subaru's around. LMFAOOA! If you want to talk up to me or whatever your lil heart desires, send me some private messages, and save the members, your lame crap. Have a good one.

Mach 1 · 05-01-2002, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by 93 VENOMIZED
This is the problem today, everybody has an attitude and takes things the wrong way. I never implied that everyone in here was dumb, just misinformed about oil qualities, just as I was. I was under the same impression that you had to change your oil every 3k miles, not true.

You dont HAVE to do anything. Why did you think you had to change your oil at 3000 miles? Sounds like your the "misinformed" one, not the rest of us.

Quote:

Originally posted by 93 VENOMIZED

Thats what the oil companies want you to believe so they make more money.

Wow, how educational! Did you read that in "The Oil Bible"? I guess thats proof enough for you.

Quote:

Originally posted by 93 VENOMIZED

Just because oil is brown doesnt mean it has to be changed.

Who said it "HAD" to changed because it was brown? Anyone?

Do you think its a good idea to change your oil when its dirty? I hope so, since your the only one educated on oil. So, if my oil is dirty at 3000 miles, do I HAVE to change it? Of course not.
I dont think too many people are quite that nieve.
Is it a good idea to change it because clean oil is better than dirty oil, even though it has not broken down or lost any of its lubricating properties?

Yes, it is. It removes dirt from you rengine. Thats a good thing. It would be best to change oil everyday if it was practical, for the sole reason that it has dirt in it. And guess what? Synthetic oil gets dirty also. There are claims it doesnt get dirty as fast (the real reason for the long change intervals, not because it doesnt "break down" as fast), as you were led to believe. I dont know if there is truth to the synthetics not getting dirty as fast or not. I guess its possible, but I would like to know exactly why. Can you explain it? Maybe you can look it up in the bible? What do you think?

Oil is best changed when it is dirty. It doesnt have to be, but it is a good thing, because oil removes dirt and contaminents from your engine. Its not going to "break down" . When does oil break down? 3000 miles? 5000 miles? 10,000 miles? 100,000 miles? 65,000 miles?

Come on, tell me when it breaks down so I know exactly when I should change it?

You said conventional oil breaks down as soon as you use it. I dont agree with you, but just for the sake of argument, why can a car run without an oil change for thousands and thousands of miles then? If it starts to break down as soon as I use it the first time, then it surely must be worn out beyond use by 60,000 miles, right? But guess what? That same car with the conventional oil that hasnt been changed in 60K is still running fine.

Oh well, maybe it hasnt broken down at all, but one things for sure. It sure is dirty. Maybe the dirt in the oil causes it to "break down"

Can you please explain what exactly oil "breaking down" is? Does it have a nervous breakdown? Does its molecular properties change? And if so, why? What does it really mean when a oil breaks down? Im so tired of hearing this "break down" which I believe is a marketing term, so maybe you can clear it up for me.

thanks

93 VENOMIZED · 05-01-2002, 06:38 PM

1BAD89

HOW OLD ARE YOU, CAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE A REAL SMFAH. SINCE WHEN ARE SUBARUS LAME CARS. I DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING TO YOU. MY COBRA HAS LOW MILEAGE BECAUSE ITS AN INVESTMENT A******! WHEN YOU GROW UP, YOU MIGHT LEARN THAT. I HAVE A 92 GT AND 2 LEGACYS. SO LMBAH!

93 VENOMIZED · 05-01-2002, 06:44 PM

93mustanggt

sounds like your interested in how this breaks down by all your questions. Do yourself a favor and spend the $9.80 and get the oil bible, its more than worth the price and you just might thank me for it. You can even get the first 20 pages free as a trial offer, then if your convinced you buy it. case closed.

peace!

1BAD89 · 05-01-2002, 06:45 PM

When did I ever say Subaru's were lame cars? Angry oil god simma down.

fiveohpatrol · 05-01-2002, 07:16 PM

You treated us eariler like children, now YOU are the one acting like a little kid with some of your ignorant insults.

We dont like this kind of crap here, take it to the Corral, they feed on people like you over there.
Or better yet, go to stangnet where they will probably look up to you

90'5.0 Conv · 05-01-2002, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 93 VENOMIZED
93mustanggt

sounds like your interested in how this breaks down by all your questions. Do yourself a favor and spend the $9.80 and get the oil bible, its more than worth the price and you just might thank me for it. You can even get the first 20 pages free as a trial offer, then if your convinced you buy it. case closed.

peace!

Let the whole oil Bible thing go! It ain't working. Most people like me come here to learn things but we won't be inclined to change oil brands or spend $10.00 on an oil bible because one member pops out of nowhere and decides "we need to get educated". Being a new member is just that and thats all anyone will take you for until your here awhile and prove that your a whirlpool of knowledge. The idea of having several opinions on this site is what makes it great and why I'm here. Storming in here and coming off as a salesman which you may be( I don't know) is not the way to get approval from your fellow members. I suggest starting over and coming out with a more subtle attitude. This is a great site and you will learn to appreciate it if you stick around.

Later, James

Mach 1 · 05-01-2002, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 93 VENOMIZED
93mustanggt

sounds like your interested in how this breaks down by all your questions. Do yourself a favor and spend the $9.80 and get the oil bible, its more than worth the price and you just might thank me for it. You can even get the first 20 pages free as a trial offer, then if your convinced you buy it. case closed.

peace!

I think I already know the answers. The questions were to get your understanding of the matter.

I dont need or do I desire the Oil Bible, no matter how much it costs.

And there are similar papers all about oil available absolutely free on the internet.

PKRWUD · 05-01-2002, 09:05 PM

tireburner-
You shouldn't have any problems if you switch from synthetic to regular. The problems arise when you mix different synthetics together.

93 VENOMIZED-
You need to understand that every few months, some new Amsoil seller shows up here and acts like he just discovered gold. Your replies to this thread sound very familiar, and we've all heard it more times than we ever wanted to.

I've conversed with numerous Amsoil sellers over the years, and I respect their opinions. I agree with as much as synthetics being superior, but I disagree when it comes to the frequency with which said oil should be changed. That's my right.

The members of this site have been well exposed to opinions similar to yours, so there's no need to act like you're the first. Welcome to the site. You've made your opinion known. I'd let it go from there if I were you.

Take care,
-Chris

95mustanggt · 05-01-2002, 09:37 PM

Well said PKRWUD.

There's a lot of negative words flying around here boys! Lets all relax a bit.

93VENOMIZED, I am open minded enough to read such material, but I've paid enough for such information (an Engineering degree costs $$$)

While synthetic oil is much better than conventional, oil cleanliness is of utmost importance (I've seen $500,000 engines destroyed by mere dirt). The best test for synthetic oil is to try and start your car in -40 degree weather. Synthetic oil makes a HUGE difference.

Bottom line, change your oil at regular intervals

joe4speed · 05-01-2002, 10:04 PM

LOL
Look what happens when I go to work!

tireburner163 · 05-01-2002, 10:48 PM

Ok, guys this has gone far enough. I've asked Mr 5.0 to delete this thread. Wither or not he decides to delete it is up to him.

My quesions have been answered by PKRWUD(btw thanks)

93 VENOMIZED: I think you got off on the wrong foot. I hope to see more of you posts under more plesant curcumstances.

Here at MustangWorks you don't have to own a 5.0, GT, or Cobra to be allowed to post. Hell you don't even have to have a Ford product(several GM memebers here, even a few mopar fans) to be welcome here. So just relax and enjoy it here

BTW, just a side note...but a car a investment....they were ment to be driven. No offense intended.

StangFlyer · 05-01-2002, 11:29 PM

And... on that note... and the request of tireburner163... thread closed.

Mr 5 0 · 05-02-2002, 03:59 PM

Apparently the thread remained open - must have been a glitch.

As I close this thread (hopefully for the last time) let me add this note, as forum moderator.

VENOMIZED:

When you post on a thread and begin it by telling people they 'need a good school lesson' you insult our intelligence and you've just killed all chances you may have had at (a) convincing anyone of your point, and (b) being taken seriously.

For the record; we all know synthetic oil is superior to 'conventional, petroleum-based oil but it's also more expensive. Much more. Your preference for Amsoil is interesting but your attempt to force your choices on other people with a haughty 'I know best' attitude is destined for failure.

If someone wishes to spend the money to use synthetic oil but change it at 3,000 miles, that's their choice and none of our business - yours or mine.

If others, like me, choose to use conventional oil and change it (and filter) every 2,000 miles, that's my business.

Pushing books for sale on the internet and trying to claim one brand of oil is the 'best' (a subjective analysis for the most part) is not appreciated here and will be met with healthy scepticism. When name-calling is employed to push your point, as you engaged in, you'll be challenged, probably insulted and the end result will be that the thread will have to be closed.

You've wasted our time for the most part.

Think it through the next time you decide to 'educate' strangers on the internet and try using a more reasoned approach that doesn't begin by 'giving us a school lesson' about oil - or anything else.

A simple statement of what you've learned about oil, what you think about types of oil and what you prefer - and why, would suffice. Skip the ads for some book and snide comments on why anyone who doesn't have it is somehow not worthy of discussing the subject of oil.

We are. Maybe you are, too, but your choice to adopt a patronizing and ultimately insulting attitude on this thread ruined any chance you ever had of making your points. Too bad.

Take it as a school lesson you need to learn.

05-01-2002, 05:34 PM	#21
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Whoa, like 3 posts while I was typing, man either I'm getting slower or this is one happening thread! Lets all calm down! No one's to be smoking crack on this site __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

05-01-2002, 07:16 PM	#30
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	You treated us eariler like children, now YOU are the one acting like a little kid with some of your ignorant insults. We dont like this kind of crap here, take it to the Corral, they feed on people like you over there. Or better yet, go to stangnet where they will probably look up to you __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

05-01-2002, 09:05 PM	#33
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	tireburner- You shouldn't have any problems if you switch from synthetic to regular. The problems arise when you mix different synthetics together. 93 VENOMIZED- You need to understand that every few months, some new Amsoil seller shows up here and acts like he just discovered gold. Your replies to this thread sound very familiar, and we've all heard it more times than we ever wanted to. I've conversed with numerous Amsoil sellers over the years, and I respect their opinions. I agree with as much as synthetics being superior, but I disagree when it comes to the frequency with which said oil should be changed. That's my right. The members of this site have been well exposed to opinions similar to yours, so there's no need to act like you're the first. Welcome to the site. You've made your opinion known. I'd let it go from there if I were you. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

05-01-2002, 09:37 PM	#34
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Well said PKRWUD. There's a lot of negative words flying around here boys! Lets all relax a bit. 93VENOMIZED, I am open minded enough to read such material, but I've paid enough for such information (an Engineering degree costs $$$) While synthetic oil is much better than conventional, oil cleanliness is of utmost importance (I've seen $500,000 engines destroyed by mere dirt). The best test for synthetic oil is to try and start your car in -40 degree weather. Synthetic oil makes a HUGE difference. Bottom line, change your oil at regular intervals __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

05-01-2002, 10:04 PM	#35
joe4speed He said Member...heh, heh Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Jupiter, Florida U.S.A. Posts: 3,718	LOL Look what happens when I go to work! __________________ *Joe!* 1988 GT, 13.58@101mph Check out my listing! Click here! Or my website:www.joe4speed.com

05-01-2002, 05:40 PM	#22
93 VENOMIZED Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 10	95MUSTANGGT, THANKS FOR YOUR BIT OF SUPPORT. I AGREE THIS THREAD GOT OFF ON THE WRONG FOOT, AND I GUESS I FLAMED IT UP A BIT, BUT I ONLY HAD GOOD INTENTIONS. I GUESS I GOT FRUSTRATED WHEN I COULDNT GET ANYONE TO EVEN LISTEN TO ME. AS FOR WHY I USE OW-30 SYNTHETIC, GO TO AMSOILS WEBSITE, WWW.AMSOIL.COM, AND READ ON. OFFERS THE BEST GAS MILEAGE AND PERFORMANCE FOR ANY CAR THAT REQUIRES 5W-30 & 10W-30. I GUESS BEING A ROOKIE, REALLY URKES PEOPLE IN HERE. I HOPE TO POST MORE PLEASANT TOPICS IN THE FUTURE. PEACE!

05-01-2002, 05:41 PM	#23
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	FYI: I do not do drugs, & I've had a few mustangs, and I have a 90 Notch. JFYIJA. It really doesn't matter if I had a mustang or not, there are quite a few people on this board that don't have mustangs, and have been around for a long time, so before you start **** like you have been, I suggest you hang around a little and get the feel of the place, before posting your insults, and assumptions within your first 5 posts. 95mustanggt: It's not that he came in here preaching, he insulted all of us numerous times for no reason. I suggest you re-read his posts.

05-01-2002, 05:49 PM	#24
93 VENOMIZED Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 10	1BAD89 I FIND YOUR COMMENTS OFFENSIVE. SOUNDS LIKE YOUR JUST A FRUSTRATED BOWTIE, WHO BOUGHT AN 89 STANG JUST TO GET ON THIS SITE. YOUR JUST JEALOUS, CAUSE ANY KNOWLEDGABLE AND INTELLIGENT STANG FAN WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A 93 COBRA, AND WOULD KILL TO HAVE ONE WITH 8K MILES. YOUR WANTED AT Z28.COM. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO POST YOUR IROC PICS. I CANT WAIT.

05-01-2002, 06:38 PM	#27
93 VENOMIZED Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 10	1BAD89 HOW OLD ARE YOU, CAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE A REAL SMFAH. SINCE WHEN ARE SUBARUS LAME CARS. I DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING TO YOU. MY COBRA HAS LOW MILEAGE BECAUSE ITS AN INVESTMENT A******! WHEN YOU GROW UP, YOU MIGHT LEARN THAT. I HAVE A 92 GT AND 2 LEGACYS. SO LMBAH!

05-01-2002, 06:44 PM	#28
93 VENOMIZED Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 10	93mustanggt sounds like your interested in how this breaks down by all your questions. Do yourself a favor and spend the $9.80 and get the oil bible, its more than worth the price and you just might thank me for it. You can even get the first 20 pages free as a trial offer, then if your convinced you buy it. case closed. peace!

05-01-2002, 06:45 PM	#29
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	When did I ever say Subaru's were lame cars? Angry oil god simma down.

05-01-2002, 10:48 PM	#36
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	Ok, guys this has gone far enough. I've asked Mr 5.0 to delete this thread. Wither or not he decides to delete it is up to him. My quesions have been answered by PKRWUD(btw thanks) 93 VENOMIZED: I think you got off on the wrong foot. I hope to see more of you posts under more plesant curcumstances. Here at MustangWorks you don't have to own a 5.0, GT, or Cobra to be allowed to post. Hell you don't even have to have a Ford product(several GM memebers here, even a few mopar fans) to be welcome here. So just relax and enjoy it here BTW, just a side note...but a car a investment....they were ment to be driven. No offense intended. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

05-01-2002, 11:29 PM	#37
StangFlyer Founder Join Date: Jun 1995 Location: Michigan Posts: 19,326	And... on that note... and the request of tireburner163... thread closed. __________________ StangFlyer 1991 Mustang GT - Supercharged 377 Stroker 2000 Ford Lightning - Project Lightning Hauler Media Center Gallery - View my member photos

05-02-2002, 03:59 PM	#38
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Posting decorum Apparently the thread remained open - must have been a glitch. As I close this thread (hopefully for the last time) let me add this note, as forum moderator. VENOMIZED: When you post on a thread and begin it by telling people they 'need a good school lesson' you insult our intelligence and you've just killed all chances you may have had at (a) convincing anyone of your point, and (b) being taken seriously. For the record; we all know synthetic oil is superior to 'conventional, petroleum-based oil but it's also more expensive. Much more. Your preference for Amsoil is interesting but your attempt to force your choices on other people with a haughty 'I know best' attitude is destined for failure. If someone wishes to spend the money to use synthetic oil but change it at 3,000 miles, that's their choice and none of our business - yours or mine. If others, like me, choose to use conventional oil and change it (and filter) every 2,000 miles, that's my business. Pushing books for sale on the internet and trying to claim one brand of oil is the 'best' (a subjective analysis for the most part) is not appreciated here and will be met with healthy scepticism. When name-calling is employed to push your point, as you engaged in, you'll be challenged, probably insulted and the end result will be that the thread will have to be closed. You've wasted our time for the most part. Think it through the next time you decide to 'educate' strangers on the internet and try using a more reasoned approach that doesn't begin by 'giving us a school lesson' about oil - or anything else. A simple statement of what you've learned about oil, what you think about types of oil and what you prefer - and why, would suffice. Skip the ads for some book and snide comments on why anyone who doesn't have it is somehow not worthy of discussing the subject of oil. We are. Maybe you are, too, but your choice to adopt a patronizing and ultimately insulting attitude on this thread ruined any chance you ever had of making your points. Too bad. Take it as a school lesson you need to learn. __________________ 5.0 Mustang Owner 1990 - 2005