another "rice" question - Page 2

this is not cbring · 10-03-2002, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by Kamaro Killer
Take a look at my car, I have exhaust, 3.73 gears, blackouts, and a cowl hood. Does that make me a ricer?

does it make you a ricer? i don't think so. i don't think there is such a thing, only idiots who do stupid thing with and/or in cars. you have done nothing to show me you are an idiot.

but honestly, if i saw your cowl hood and wing at the track, and then watched you run a high 13, low 14 (i'm guessing what you'd run), i'd think to myself, "that car is a lot slower than it appears to be." i think it looks fine, but i also think you are tryin' to make it look faster than it is

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I have lost ALL respect for ricers due to the amount of IDIOTS who rice their car out, and don't do any real performance mods

so there are ricers that don't rice out their car?

Kamaro Killer · 10-03-2002, 05:03 PM

You're telling me you've never had someone pull up next to you in a stock Accord with his hat on sideways with his radio (not even a CD player) on as loud as it goes try to race you. That is the ricer mentality (sp?) we are trying to tell you about.

Here's an example. There was this neighbour of mine (about a year ago) who was about 19, (not much younger than me) that would try to race me in his MOM's escort. There wasn't anything done to the car (except a few dents he put in it) that would give him any reason to think he could even keep up with me, but I had to race him a few times before he stopped trying to race me.

I don't think a 13 second car is slow, do you? What does your VW run? I'll bet somewhere around mid 15's. All I have to do is throw the normal H/I/C in my car and it'll run in the 12's. I'm just estimating, but it'd only cost around $2000. These ricers pay 12-15K for an economy car, then dump $5000 into it and it still can't keep up with me and my $2000 worth of mods, plus the $3500 I paid for my car.

It's kinda strange how this ricer topic gets under your skin so bad. It's actually kind of funny. Take care, Keith

this is not cbring · 10-03-2002, 05:15 PM

kamaro killer

-accord boi isn't a "ricer".........a ricer is a kitchen utensil........he is simply a moron

-no, i don't think a 13 second car is slow..........and i think it is fine that you have the hood and wing (though i hate cowl hoods, period), but why did you add those? i am guessing it is because you wanted it.............what is wrong with someone in a 17 second car wanting a wing?

-i've never ran at a drag-strip, so i'm not going to even wager a guess. i do know that good drivers in bone stock cars just like mine seem to run 14.9x's or 15.0x's

-i thought the "well, if my car had this, this, and this, i'd run this" attitude we one of the things that people didn't like about the "ricers"

-what makes you think it is under my skin, i'm just interacting a bit while i'm trying to make some money

-tell me about these ricers that don't rice out their car

The Deuce · 10-03-2002, 05:34 PM

Cbring.

You are really looking to start some trouble, eh? What Kamaro Killer is talking about is mentioning proven enhancements on his car. It is verifiable, ask any the guy he is going to buy the H/I/C from what the car runs with it.

You won't let it die, keep asking these post-modern style questions that you hope we cannot answer with something other than a , "Oh wise VW, you are so right."

BS

Most ricers do very little to their cars. Stickers and a wing do not mean big mods to me, so the same kid in a car that he hasn't been by Pep Boys to pick up his "Type-R" sticker (yes they sell these) and wing is still a ricer. There is nothing inherently wrong with putting a wing on a car, unless you brag about "the mad downforce" from it. Heck, my car is slower by 2 mph in the top because of the drag assoc with mine, Ford new that, but did it anyway.

You want to call them 'morons', we call them 'ricers'. It's like you are protecting them because you are afraid someone might think you aren't PC enough. Grow a spine. Homo, ricer, heck fag even, call it what it is, not "moron" or "alternative lifestyle participant".

There are a lot of words for a reason. Get your car to a strip and put up or shut up about ricers.

Kamaro Killer · 10-03-2002, 05:45 PM

because there have been about 10 different people who explained our view of a ricer, and you don't seem to get it. If you don't agree with us, that's fine, but don't try to reiterate the fact that you disagree with our opinion of a ricer. We know, you don't believe in "ricers", and that's cool. I'm not trying to sway your opinion, but it seems you are trying to sway our opinion over and over. That is why I think it's getting under your skin. You may think that a ricer is a kitchen utensil, but here at MW, we don't. We've all experienced these ricers in thier civic's, accords, etc... and we are tired of this fad

We believe the term ricer describes an attitude, presented mostly by people in imports. There are plenty of people with this attitude who drive imports, even though thier car is totally stock. They know thier car is stock, but still try to race everything on the road as if they are fast. A ricer isn't merely defined by the car he/ she drives, he/ she's defined by the attitude that they think they are fast and can whoop anyone, when we all know that they are slow. I have nothing against a 5 foot wing on a car, I personally wouldn't do it, but that doesn't mean I can't make fun of it by calling the driver a ricer.

I was not bench racing here by saying my car would do this or do that with this or that. I am merely saying even though I know my car's pretty much stock, I know it'll beat a lot of the car's on the road. That doesn't make me go out and race everything I see, just because I think my car's fast. That's the ricer attitude we don't like. I know my car in it's stock form is fast, and by doing some simple mods, I know I could smoke a vette. Tell me the last time you saw an import that you could dump 2k into to that'll smoke a vette. These ricers read too much into the hype that thier magazines spew, and don't do enough work to their car.

BTW, when I purchased my car it had the cowl hood, and the blackouts were $5 from a friend. Now that it's my car, I am planning a sick combo. I'm actually putting more thought into the performance side of my car, rather than the appearance, like most ricers.

Later, Keith

this is not cbring · 10-03-2002, 05:59 PM

why does it have to be such a we/they, us/them thing?

i don't want to be a "them" or an "us", i want to be a "this is not cbring"

these are cars, its in fun........it isn't war

i used to hate all the dickhead, redneck mustang/camaro drivers when i was 18 and driving a sebring lowered w/rims, stereo, and speedoptions.com windshield banner (my car was actually on their website and i got show and autocross discounts from them, so i wouldn't call it "rice" but you can if you want).................

i gave up on hating, 2 or 3 years ago and it has been a lot more fun............i go both import and domestic shows (my last trip was to the corvette musuem/assembly plant).........

i just ignore the morons and/or beat them when i can

well, there is a 454 chevelle waiting to be driven, have fun "rice-hating".............i'll check in later

Kamaro Killer · 10-03-2002, 06:09 PM

I have pleny of fun rice-hating. It seems about 80% of the people my age (21) have rice burners. i have plenty of fun smoking thier asses.

It's wasn't us vs. you, you made it that way by trying to tell us over and over that our view of ricers is wrong. You prefer VW's for your personal reasons, and most of us prefer mustangs. I have yet to understand why you constanly stick up for ricers, unless you're trying to imply that you are a ricer. Hmm, I wonder, lol. Too bad you're all the way in TN, cause I'd be VW hating too. Later, Keith

The Deuce · 10-03-2002, 06:11 PM

Then just let it go.

I get the feeling you have some qualms about being thought of as rice, and that's why you bring it up. More time discussing smoking Chevelle tires, less talkng about boosting your 1.8.

PKRWUD · 10-03-2002, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by this is not cbring
i am guessing it is because you wanted it.............what is wrong with someone in a 17 second car wanting a wing?

NOTHING!!! Those are the precise morons that put a huge smile on my face. Hell, while we're at it, what's wrong with wearing snow skis at the beach? What's wrong with smoking on airplanes? What's wrong with legalizing all drugs instead of just the ones that are trademarked by pharmaceutical magnates? What's wrong with wearing pink and green plaid pants while shopping at the mall?

Nothing. Whatever blows your skirt up, honey. Just don't be surprised when others are laughing at you.

C-ya

Fox Body · 10-03-2002, 06:37 PM

TINC,

When I first heard the term "ricer", I kinda had a small problem with it also. I am just not one for name calling, I guess, and I specifically don't like to jump on bandwagons and follow popular trends, whether good or bad-- that's just me-- so I can kinda understand where you are coming from, really. But I, just like a lot of other REAL musclecar enthusiasts (notice, I said "car", not "Mustang"--even though I am specifically a Mustang enthusiast, I am also secondarily a "musclecar" enthusiast) get really stinking annoyed with stupidity. It's just the whole "rice" scene that is really annoying. When you are someone that takes pride in hard work and putting a car together and then you get this "poser" come up beside you, it's rather disgusting. I don't need to get into all the details about what is a "ricer" and what is not, that question has already been answered quite well in this thread and especially this one. The mental and physical (well-outlined by 84LX89GT) aspects of riciology have been spelled out.

The only real way I think one can understand why people get SOOOOOO stinking frustrated with ricedom is to get themselves a serious muscle/sports car (Mustang, Supra Turbo, Corvette, Skyline GTR, Camaro, etc, etc), then put tons of HARD WORK into it and then have these stupid little annoying riceboys w/ their rockets talk alot of big talk about what they have and what they can do, and pose, and pose and pose etc etc, and that person will soon understand. Pretending in this case is CHILDISH and stupid. These guys need to abandon this pitiful world of fantasy and wake up!

To me personally it is frustrating, but then again, I have to think, well, even though I think their cars are STUPID childish or whatever, people are different and have different opinions, tastes, etc. One reassuring thing, how would we know what is awesome (eg, well-put-together '69 Camaro) if we don't know what SUCKS (eg, a riced out 'stang)????????

You have to admit, this is a Mustang message board so many opinions and praises will sway primarily towards MUSTANGs and other domestics. Don't expect that you will just come in and change people's minds or perspectives on rice hating (...and I don't suppose that is why you post such threads). Just an observation, but believe it or not, some people here see your questions or remarks, as polite as they may be, as definding rice and that will not go over well here, even if that was not your intention. Just remember where you are. Right? of course if I went over to a strictly import board and started posting the same types of questions there and kept pushing the subject again and again, people are gonna automatically start thinking I'm some domestic guy that has come to start trouble-- well, most likely-- you gotta be honest.

One thing is for sure TINC, you have been very polite asking your questions even though you keep pushing the subject and b/c of that (even in the face of some snide remarks from one or two of our wonderful members

), this thread has not gotten out of hand as it has the potential of doing. I enjoy reading your posts. You seem like an intelligent guy (alright you guys don't laugh). We need a few more like you around here, one not easy to start or encourage a flamewar (but you still need a Mustang, dude

)

....And I must say I am impressed by others who have kept this thread under control (lack or name calling, snide remarks) by utilizing patience with TINC's repeated questions.

All in all, remember, this is a Mustang site (just reminding you) and we have different opinions here. You have to live the life (mentally and physically) a few years as a real Mustanger to properly understand ricedom, posing, whatever, from our perspective.........

But.......

Let's not make this rice hating stuff a religion and start going on crusades and stuff cause then we really got some issues more so than the ricers......

Fox Body · 10-03-2002, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by PKRWUD
NOTHING!!! Those are the precise morons that put a huge smile on my face. Hell, while we're at it, what's wrong with wearing snow skis at the beach? What's wrong with smoking on airplanes? What's wrong with legalizing all drugs instead of just the ones that are trademarked by pharmaceutical magnates? What's wrong with wearing pink and green plaid pants while shopping at the mall?

Nothing. Whatever blows your skirt up, honey. Just don't be surprised when others are laughing at you.

C-ya

Man! LOL, I LOVE that reply PKRWUD. There's a lot of wisdom in that sarcasm...

Fox Body · 10-03-2002, 06:55 PM

And yeah, many of us DIE HARD MUSTANGERS may have started out a bit ricey. Especially if we didn't grow up around many real car enthusiasts and didn't have direction and the right influence when we were younger. I remember when I had my other V6 stang, I put this shiny exhaust tip on it b/c the other one looked rotten but the new one stuck out too much. But I still liked it b/c it was shiny

. There are a few other things I did that I'm not so proud of, but over time and a little good influence and direction and common sense, I soon grew out of it. There's gotta be a time to grow up. And I don't mean going out and buying yourself a 2003 Cobra, get what you like, import or domestic and try to be honorable in what you do. Don't degrade a decent car WHATEVER IT MAY BE with cheap/stupid/flashy little trinkets and dodads thinking "oh wow, I'm cool now and can hang with the big dogs". Dont' pull up beside stangs and with a nasty attitude like your their daddy.

And stang guys, every once in a while, have a little sympathy on the respectful ricer guys, if you act snobby to them all the time, they're just gonna have the same stinking attitude towards you as you do to them. Hey, maybe you can influence them in a good way, I know I have (from experience). That's converting one ricer at a time.....

1969Mach1 · 10-03-2002, 07:13 PM

I'm quoting this off a site I found....

The term "Rice-Boy" is meant to be a derogatory term. But not racially derogatory. Some people might say that regardless of what this disclaimer says, it makes Asians look bad. Well, I hate to break it to these people but asians are not the only people on this planet who eat rice. Everyone eats rice. White people eat rice. Black people eat rice. Native Americans? They eat rice. Europeans eat rice!! And, if you open your eyes, you might notice that a whole lot of the rice-boys out there aren't even asian! The "rice" really refers to their cars. It's not about their race, it's about their attitude!

If you want to read more of a definition check out his page.

http://www.riceboypage.com/what_is_riceboy/

I think it's a great site and makes some really valid points.

§am.

ultraflo · 10-03-2002, 07:26 PM

I think the whole "rice" thing has gotten way outta hand...

however, PKRWUD..... I nearly fell out of my chair after reading your reply! I'm dyin' over here!!!!

LOL!

That was great!

PKRWUD · 10-03-2002, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Fox Body
And stang guys, every once in a while, have a little sympathy on the respectful ricer guys, if you act snobby to them all the time, they're just gonna have the same stinking attitude towards you as you do to them.

Yeah, but we're right and they're morons.

I'm feeling unusually fiesty. I'm having an overwhelming desire to go to the local mall and let the air out of the tires on every Rabbit, er, GTI I can find.

PKRWUD · 10-03-2002, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by 1969Mach1
Well, I hate to break it to these people but asians are not the only people on this planet who eat rice. Everyone eats rice. White people eat rice. Black people eat rice. Native Americans? They eat rice. Europeans eat rice!! And, if you open your eyes, you might notice that a whole lot of the rice-boys out there aren't even asian!

Sure. You just go right ahead and burst my bubble.

Hey, this is kinda fun, thinking like an idiot. No wonder so many ricers do it.

Dinner time. C-ya

0h n0 5.0 · 10-03-2002, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by this is not cbring
okay, i posted the other thread, i completely understand where you are coming from.........

-i do think all the "rice" jokes are pretty much played out

-i do think that some people don't have a fair definition of rice......if i a guy is building a show car or a stereo car and it is done right and isn't concerned with street racing at all, i don't think his car is rice at all

-i don't like the term "ricer"........it kinda carries racial overtones and doesn't necessarily make the user sound intelligent......i think "poser" would be a more accurate description

okay, back to my question:

would you consider this rice? the guys that run around in the stock or relatively stock (read intake/exhaust only) 5.0's, or 4.6's, or camaro's, or whatever..........often have decals, or cowl hoods, or blackouts and drive around like they are billy badarse and the fastest thing on the road

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yes, even tho I am relatively stock, this is kinda the newbie-teen driver-goin-nuts-with-daddies-credit-card-driver-thing I beleive. i see these kids in my town, tryin to be billy badass, runnin people off the road, drivin like morons... i don't like it even though some of em are stang drivers. you can easily tell when someone has gone too far in the looks dept.. cause ford designed these cars with a killer look, and it takes very little to improve on the looks of a pony car.

I try to relate rice with this formula:

supercar looks-actual performance+ignorant ******* attitude=rice

rice is kinda racial because its term came mainly from the old days of true "only commuter" car status of imports, before there were any true import sports cars. i'm glad there is a wakeup call to get some serious performing imports on the market, it keeps the ford, chevy guys on there toes and make this game more fun.

rice is more of a mentality IMO, its negating a simple fact that you wanna be respected in the racing world, but don't got the stones to lay down the rubber so they make the car the most interesting car they can with huge wings, foglights, etc. rice is imitation. but to run with the racing pack you better have money under the hood to justify that conning tower rear wing set up. bad atittudes can happen to anybody,
domestic...import.. ford or ferarri, an ****** is an ****** in my opinion, i don't care what you drive.

plus poser is skateboard lexicon, i like the fact cars guys have there own language.

DAN-MAN · 10-03-2002, 08:41 PM

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orginially posted by this is not cbring
you're actually right dan-man, he ran a 15.01 at his only track visit.........so i guess it isn't a 15 second flat car

how you figure i'm tryin' to BS you? don't think civics could possibly run decent times...........magazine guys clocked mid-15's stock and i somewhat doubt that magazine guys know how to extract full potential out of a car with such a narrow powerband..........

i know or know of at least a half dozen 99-00 civic si's (with more mods than that) that have ran a proven better time

How do I think that your bs us? Well, for one you have a problem with the whole rice boy fad. You call us extreme (or something of the sorts). I don't think that you get the whole picture on RHC.

As far as that 15 sec Honda, well, it sounds like a fast car (for a civic.). However, I'm not about to sink a bunch of money into a front wheel drive car like that just to go 15's when I could put half as much into a 5.0 Mustang and go 13's or 12's.

Most of these rice boys don't even know what their cars are pathetic pos's. They think that if they put on a fart can and a wing they're ready to whoop on every domestic that they line up againist. I just don't understand their mentality.

Look, I own a import. You can read my sig and tell that. You own a import. Do I plan to rice it out? Hell no! If anything, it'll get bigger mud tires on it and a lift, but that's it.

My question to you is, do you plan to rice out your car?

Daniel.

this is not cbring · 10-03-2002, 09:12 PM

do i plan to rice my car?

well, dan, i guess it depends who's defining rice. these are my plans (though i seriously doubt they will all come to fruition, and if they do, it'll take several years)

-rear sway bar
-strut tower brace
-aftermarket diverter valve
-intake
-1.1 bar (16 psi) chip
-exhaust
-downpipe
-lowering springs
-beat lots of mustangs at the track and at the autocross

then i'll add 18"s wheels, bigger brakes, color-matched chin spoiler and rear valence, grill insert, some sort of subtle rear spoiler up top

then when i burn up the clutch, ima add:
-short shift kit
-upgraded clutch
-lightened flywheel
-Automatic Torque Biasing Differential

95mustanggt · 10-03-2002, 09:25 PM

Sounds like great mods. Looks like your going to be an auto cross racer. That's great there are some guys like that here too, but they are a little more rare. The Cobra is the good handling car of our breed (stock), but sounds like you'll have fun.

Chris, buddy, where are you coming up with this stuff, LMAO, too funny!

10-03-2002, 05:03 PM	#22
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	Yes there are!! You're telling me you've never had someone pull up next to you in a stock Accord with his hat on sideways with his radio (not even a CD player) on as loud as it goes try to race you. That is the ricer mentality (sp?) we are trying to tell you about. Here's an example. There was this neighbour of mine (about a year ago) who was about 19, (not much younger than me) that would try to race me in his MOM's escort. There wasn't anything done to the car (except a few dents he put in it) that would give him any reason to think he could even keep up with me, but I had to race him a few times before he stopped trying to race me. I don't think a 13 second car is slow, do you? What does your VW run? I'll bet somewhere around mid 15's. All I have to do is throw the normal H/I/C in my car and it'll run in the 12's. I'm just estimating, but it'd only cost around $2000. These ricers pay 12-15K for an economy car, then dump $5000 into it and it still can't keep up with me and my $2000 worth of mods, plus the $3500 I paid for my car. It's kinda strange how this ricer topic gets under your skin so bad. It's actually kind of funny. Take care, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

10-03-2002, 05:15 PM	#23
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	kamaro killer -accord boi isn't a "ricer".........a ricer is a kitchen utensil........he is simply a moron -no, i don't think a 13 second car is slow..........and i think it is fine that you have the hood and wing (though i hate cowl hoods, period), but why did you add those? i am guessing it is because you wanted it.............what is wrong with someone in a 17 second car wanting a wing? -i've never ran at a drag-strip, so i'm not going to even wager a guess. i do know that good drivers in bone stock cars just like mine seem to run 14.9x's or 15.0x's -i thought the "well, if my car had this, this, and this, i'd run this" attitude we one of the things that people didn't like about the "ricers" -what makes you think it is under my skin, i'm just interacting a bit while i'm trying to make some money -tell me about these ricers that don't rice out their car __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

10-03-2002, 05:34 PM	#24
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	Cbring. You are really looking to start some trouble, eh? What Kamaro Killer is talking about is mentioning proven enhancements on his car. It is verifiable, ask any the guy he is going to buy the H/I/C from what the car runs with it. You won't let it die, keep asking these post-modern style questions that you hope we cannot answer with something other than a , "Oh wise VW, you are so right." BS Most ricers do very little to their cars. Stickers and a wing do not mean big mods to me, so the same kid in a car that he hasn't been by Pep Boys to pick up his "Type-R" sticker (yes they sell these) and wing is still a ricer. There is nothing inherently wrong with putting a wing on a car, unless you brag about "the mad downforce" from it. Heck, my car is slower by 2 mph in the top because of the drag assoc with mine, Ford new that, but did it anyway. You want to call them 'morons', we call them 'ricers'. It's like you are protecting them because you are afraid someone might think you aren't PC enough. Grow a spine. Homo, ricer, heck fag even, call it what it is, not "moron" or "alternative lifestyle participant". There are a lot of words for a reason. Get your car to a strip and put up or shut up about ricers. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

10-03-2002, 05:45 PM	#25
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	It think it's getting under your skin... because there have been about 10 different people who explained our view of a ricer, and you don't seem to get it. If you don't agree with us, that's fine, but don't try to reiterate the fact that you disagree with our opinion of a ricer. We know, you don't believe in "ricers", and that's cool. I'm not trying to sway your opinion, but it seems you are trying to sway our opinion over and over. That is why I think it's getting under your skin. You may think that a ricer is a kitchen utensil, but here at MW, we don't. We've all experienced these ricers in thier civic's, accords, etc... and we are tired of this fad We believe the term ricer describes an attitude, presented mostly by people in imports. There are plenty of people with this attitude who drive imports, even though thier car is totally stock. They know thier car is stock, but still try to race everything on the road as if they are fast. A ricer isn't merely defined by the car he/ she drives, he/ she's defined by the attitude that they think they are fast and can whoop anyone, when we all know that they are slow. I have nothing against a 5 foot wing on a car, I personally wouldn't do it, but that doesn't mean I can't make fun of it by calling the driver a ricer. I was not bench racing here by saying my car would do this or do that with this or that. I am merely saying even though I know my car's pretty much stock, I know it'll beat a lot of the car's on the road. That doesn't make me go out and race everything I see, just because I think my car's fast. That's the ricer attitude we don't like. I know my car in it's stock form is fast, and by doing some simple mods, I know I could smoke a vette. Tell me the last time you saw an import that you could dump 2k into to that'll smoke a vette. These ricers read too much into the hype that thier magazines spew, and don't do enough work to their car. BTW, when I purchased my car it had the cowl hood, and the blackouts were $5 from a friend. Now that it's my car, I am planning a sick combo. I'm actually putting more thought into the performance side of my car, rather than the appearance, like most ricers. Later, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

10-03-2002, 05:59 PM	#26
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	why does it have to be such a we/they, us/them thing? i don't want to be a "them" or an "us", i want to be a "this is not cbring" these are cars, its in fun........it isn't war i used to hate all the dickhead, redneck mustang/camaro drivers when i was 18 and driving a sebring lowered w/rims, stereo, and speedoptions.com windshield banner (my car was actually on their website and i got show and autocross discounts from them, so i wouldn't call it "rice" but you can if you want)................. i gave up on hating, 2 or 3 years ago and it has been a lot more fun............i go both import and domestic shows (my last trip was to the corvette musuem/assembly plant)......... i just ignore the morons and/or beat them when i can well, there is a 454 chevelle waiting to be driven, have fun "rice-hating".............i'll check in later __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

10-03-2002, 06:09 PM	#27
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	I will! I have pleny of fun rice-hating. It seems about 80% of the people my age (21) have rice burners. i have plenty of fun smoking thier asses. It's wasn't us vs. you, you made it that way by trying to tell us over and over that our view of ricers is wrong. You prefer VW's for your personal reasons, and most of us prefer mustangs. I have yet to understand why you constanly stick up for ricers, unless you're trying to imply that you are a ricer. Hmm, I wonder, lol. Too bad you're all the way in TN, cause I'd be VW hating too. Later, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

10-03-2002, 06:11 PM	#28
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	Then just let it go. I get the feeling you have some qualms about being thought of as rice, and that's why you bring it up. More time discussing smoking Chevelle tires, less talkng about boosting your 1.8. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

10-03-2002, 06:37 PM	#30
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	I usually try to refrain from replying to these types of posts, but... TINC, When I first heard the term "ricer", I kinda had a small problem with it also. I am just not one for name calling, I guess, and I specifically don't like to jump on bandwagons and follow popular trends, whether good or bad-- that's just me-- so I can kinda understand where you are coming from, really. But I, just like a lot of other REAL musclecar enthusiasts (notice, I said "car", not "Mustang"--even though I am specifically a Mustang enthusiast, I am also secondarily a "musclecar" enthusiast) get really stinking annoyed with stupidity. It's just the whole "rice" scene that is really annoying. When you are someone that takes pride in hard work and putting a car together and then you get this "poser" come up beside you, it's rather disgusting. I don't need to get into all the details about what is a "ricer" and what is not, that question has already been answered quite well in this thread and especially this one. The mental and physical (well-outlined by 84LX89GT) aspects of riciology have been spelled out. The only real way I think one can understand why people get SOOOOOO stinking frustrated with ricedom is to get themselves a serious muscle/sports car (Mustang, Supra Turbo, Corvette, Skyline GTR, Camaro, etc, etc), then put tons of HARD WORK into it and then have these stupid little annoying riceboys w/ their rockets talk alot of big talk about what they have and what they can do, and pose, and pose and pose etc etc, and that person will soon understand. Pretending in this case is CHILDISH and stupid. These guys need to abandon this pitiful world of fantasy and wake up! To me personally it is frustrating, but then again, I have to think, well, even though I think their cars are STUPID childish or whatever, people are different and have different opinions, tastes, etc. One reassuring thing, how would we know what is awesome (eg, well-put-together '69 Camaro) if we don't know what SUCKS (eg, a riced out 'stang)???????? You have to admit, this is a Mustang message board so many opinions and praises will sway primarily towards MUSTANGs and other domestics. Don't expect that you will just come in and change people's minds or perspectives on rice hating (...and I don't suppose that is why you post such threads). Just an observation, but believe it or not, some people here see your questions or remarks, as polite as they may be, as definding rice and that will not go over well here, even if that was not your intention. Just remember where you are. Right? of course if I went over to a strictly import board and started posting the same types of questions there and kept pushing the subject again and again, people are gonna automatically start thinking I'm some domestic guy that has come to start trouble-- well, most likely-- you gotta be honest. One thing is for sure TINC, you have been very polite asking your questions even though you keep pushing the subject and b/c of that (even in the face of some snide remarks from one or two of our wonderful members ), this thread has not gotten out of hand as it has the potential of doing. I enjoy reading your posts. You seem like an intelligent guy (alright you guys don't laugh). We need a few more like you around here, one not easy to start or encourage a flamewar (but you still need a Mustang, dude ) ....And I must say I am impressed by others who have kept this thread under control (lack or name calling, snide remarks) by utilizing patience with TINC's repeated questions. All in all, remember, this is a Mustang site (just reminding you) and we have different opinions here. You have to live the life (mentally and physically) a few years as a real Mustanger to properly understand ricedom, posing, whatever, from our perspective......... But....... Let's not make this rice hating stuff a religion and start going on crusades and stuff cause then we really got some issues more so than the ricers...... __________________ 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

10-03-2002, 06:55 PM	#32
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	And I forgot to say... And yeah, many of us DIE HARD MUSTANGERS may have started out a bit ricey. Especially if we didn't grow up around many real car enthusiasts and didn't have direction and the right influence when we were younger. I remember when I had my other V6 stang, I put this shiny exhaust tip on it b/c the other one looked rotten but the new one stuck out too much. But I still liked it b/c it was shiny . There are a few other things I did that I'm not so proud of, but over time and a little good influence and direction and common sense, I soon grew out of it. There's gotta be a time to grow up. And I don't mean going out and buying yourself a 2003 Cobra, get what you like, import or domestic and try to be honorable in what you do. Don't degrade a decent car WHATEVER IT MAY BE with cheap/stupid/flashy little trinkets and dodads thinking "oh wow, I'm cool now and can hang with the big dogs". Dont' pull up beside stangs and with a nasty attitude like your their daddy. And stang guys, every once in a while, have a little sympathy on the respectful ricer guys, if you act snobby to them all the time, they're just gonna have the same stinking attitude towards you as you do to them. Hey, maybe you can influence them in a good way, I know I have (from experience). That's converting one ricer at a time..... __________________ 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

10-03-2002, 07:13 PM	#33
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	I'm quoting this off a site I found.... The term "Rice-Boy" is meant to be a derogatory term. But not racially derogatory. Some people might say that regardless of what this disclaimer says, it makes Asians look bad. Well, I hate to break it to these people but asians are not the only people on this planet who eat rice. Everyone eats rice. White people eat rice. Black people eat rice. Native Americans? They eat rice. Europeans eat rice!! And, if you open your eyes, you might notice that a whole lot of the rice-boys out there aren't even asian! The "rice" really refers to their cars. It's not about their race, it's about their attitude! If you want to read more of a definition check out his page. http://www.riceboypage.com/what_is_riceboy/ I think it's a great site and makes some really valid points. §am. __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

10-03-2002, 07:26 PM	#34
ultraflo NX dealer-man Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Peoria, Illinois Posts: 977	different strokes for different folks... I think the whole "rice" thing has gotten way outta hand... however, PKRWUD..... I nearly fell out of my chair after reading your reply! I'm dyin' over here!!!! LOL! That was great! __________________ RLS Racing! 93 LX 9.20 @ 147mph 03 Mach 1 12.39 @ 116mph

10-03-2002, 09:12 PM	#39
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	do i plan to rice my car? well, dan, i guess it depends who's defining rice. these are my plans (though i seriously doubt they will all come to fruition, and if they do, it'll take several years) -rear sway bar -strut tower brace -aftermarket diverter valve -intake -1.1 bar (16 psi) chip -exhaust -downpipe -lowering springs -beat lots of mustangs at the track and at the autocross then i'll add 18"s wheels, bigger brakes, color-matched chin spoiler and rear valence, grill insert, some sort of subtle rear spoiler up top then when i burn up the clutch, ima add: -short shift kit -upgraded clutch -lightened flywheel -Automatic Torque Biasing Differential __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

10-03-2002, 09:25 PM	#40
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Sounds like great mods. Looks like your going to be an auto cross racer. That's great there are some guys like that here too, but they are a little more rare. The Cobra is the good handling car of our breed (stock), but sounds like you'll have fun. Chris, buddy, where are you coming up with this stuff, LMAO, too funny! __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

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