Starting Problems - Page 2

PKRWUD · 12-19-2002, 07:32 PM

Sounds like the ignition switch to me.

bigred90gt · 12-19-2002, 07:54 PM

When you say ignition switch, is that actually where you put in the key and all associated wires, or just a part of that system?
Caymon

PKRWUD · 12-19-2002, 09:33 PM

The switch, not the lock and tumbler. It's on the steering column, and is held in place with anti-theft screws.

Take care,
~Chris

bigred90gt · 12-20-2002, 01:52 AM

Is that a dealer item or can I get that at O'reilley's? I'll probably replace it this weekend. I'll let you know the results. I appreciate all your help Chris.

Caymon

PKRWUD · 12-20-2002, 10:18 AM

Should be available everywhere. try calling.

bigred90gt · 12-21-2002, 11:56 PM

OK, so I've replaced everything I can think of except the lock & tumbler assembly, and it is still doing the same thing. I replaced the ignition switch and same thing. I thought about the solenoid and replaced it, same thing. The only other thing I can think of is maybe there is a short somewhere in the wiring between the steering column and the solenoid. If you have any other suggestions, please throw them out there. I'm up for anything now. Thanks for all your help so far.
Caymon

PKRWUD · 12-22-2002, 05:55 AM

It has to be between the ignition switch and the solenoid, the test with the test light determined that. It's time for you to start inspecting the wiring, and look for frayed edges. Not fun, but necessary.

bigred90gt · 12-22-2002, 08:46 AM

There is a wire on a harness under the dash near the ignition switch that is bare at the plug. The wire itself is silver not copper. It goes to a plug that resides about 3" from the switch. I'll try to take a pic on my lunch break at 11:00 and attach it. Let me know what you think after the pic. Thanks man.
Caymon

bigred90gt · 12-22-2002, 12:45 PM

Here's the first one.

bigred90gt · 12-22-2002, 12:46 PM

Here's another.

bigred90gt · 12-22-2002, 12:47 PM

Yet another.

bigred90gt · 12-22-2002, 12:48 PM

This one is to give you a better understanding of exactly where it is. What do ya think. It kind of looks like it is supposed to be like this, but I'm not sure.

PKRWUD · 12-22-2002, 03:53 PM

I don't recognize it, but I don't think it's related. If I were you, I would make sure the tranny was in neutral, disconnect the coil, and while holding the key in the start position, investigate the wiring under the dash. Gently grab and jiggle some wires until it makes a difference, and then investigate. There is a bad connection somewhere between the ignition switch and the red/blue wire at the solenoid, and you're just going to have to try and find it. If you'd rather, you can unplug that wire from the solenoid, and jump it to your test light inside the car so that you don't have to drain the battery while testing by having the starter crank. Either way, you need to jiggle different wires until you find some that directly affect the starter wire when moved. Then go from there.

12-19-2002, 07:32 PM	#21
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Sounds like the ignition switch to me. __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-19-2002, 07:54 PM	#22
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	When you say ignition switch, is that actually where you put in the key and all associated wires, or just a part of that system? Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

12-19-2002, 09:33 PM	#23
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	The switch, not the lock and tumbler. It's on the steering column, and is held in place with anti-theft screws. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-20-2002, 01:52 AM	#24
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	Is that a dealer item or can I get that at O'reilley's? I'll probably replace it this weekend. I'll let you know the results. I appreciate all your help Chris. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

12-20-2002, 10:18 AM	#25
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Should be available everywhere. try calling. __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-21-2002, 11:56 PM	#26
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	OK, so I've replaced everything I can think of except the lock & tumbler assembly, and it is still doing the same thing. I replaced the ignition switch and same thing. I thought about the solenoid and replaced it, same thing. The only other thing I can think of is maybe there is a short somewhere in the wiring between the steering column and the solenoid. If you have any other suggestions, please throw them out there. I'm up for anything now. Thanks for all your help so far. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

12-22-2002, 05:55 AM	#27
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	It has to be between the ignition switch and the solenoid, the test with the test light determined that. It's time for you to start inspecting the wiring, and look for frayed edges. Not fun, but necessary. __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-22-2002, 08:46 AM	#28
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	There is a wire on a harness under the dash near the ignition switch that is bare at the plug. The wire itself is silver not copper. It goes to a plug that resides about 3" from the switch. I'll try to take a pic on my lunch break at 11:00 and attach it. Let me know what you think after the pic. Thanks man. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

12-22-2002, 03:53 PM	#33
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	I don't recognize it, but I don't think it's related. If I were you, I would make sure the tranny was in neutral, disconnect the coil, and while holding the key in the start position, investigate the wiring under the dash. Gently grab and jiggle some wires until it makes a difference, and then investigate. There is a bad connection somewhere between the ignition switch and the red/blue wire at the solenoid, and you're just going to have to try and find it. If you'd rather, you can unplug that wire from the solenoid, and jump it to your test light inside the car so that you don't have to drain the battery while testing by having the starter crank. Either way, you need to jiggle different wires until you find some that directly affect the starter wire when moved. Then go from there. __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

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