3.27 - 4.10 Gearing ??? - Page 4

xxxBlakexxx · 03-22-2004, 08:15 PM

Thanks 420! Anyone else? I am really open on this issue.

JBeryleC · 03-22-2004, 08:18 PM

Everyone seems to agree.. 4.10's

Let me know when they're done man... gotta know how you like 'em

It'll be great input coming from someone fresh off the stock gears! I wanna know how 1st gear changes for ya.. lol

Make sure to post the results, please

Thanks!

420nitro · 03-22-2004, 08:34 PM

Oh yea....Blake
When you spray it with the new gear...a bit of warning..it will climb faster (through the rpms) then if you revved it in neutral on motor!

You also might hurt those pretty new tires too!

Lizard King · 03-22-2004, 08:38 PM

I'm getting some 3.73 installed in a couple of hours.

Looking forward in having my speedo all fluffed up.

xxxBlakexxx · 03-22-2004, 08:48 PM

420nitro, you crack me up. Those tires are toast! Lets hear it for $116 each for 285/40's from Tire Rack.

I hope I can shift that fast....ya hoo!

TARZAN · 03-22-2004, 10:56 PM

IF it is your first time to spray a mod motor, AND its a standard, be SURE to have a WOT and WINDOW switch. IF you're spraying and you tach out (hit the rev limiter) you will have some MAJOR problems.....

BTW, if you stay N/A, 4.30's are the way to go

-Will

xxxBlakexxx · 03-22-2004, 11:02 PM

Tarzan:

I am planning on using the Venom system. It has a WOT switch, but no window switch. The system is a very safe system as far as nitrous goes.

TARZAN · 03-22-2004, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxBlakexxx
Tarzan:

I am planning on using the Venom system. It has a WOT switch, but no window switch. The system is a very safe system as far as nitrous goes.

If there is not window switch I wouldn't do it man, thats all there is to it. Unless it has some sort of safety mechanism that I don't know about.....

If you hit the rev limiter (could happen for a variety of reasons, slow shift, missed shift, slipping clutch, etc...) and you still have some juice sprayin, you'll be lucky if all that goes is your lil plastic intake.

-Will

420nitro · 03-22-2004, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TARZAN
IF it is your first time to spray a mod motor, AND its a standard, be SURE to have a WOT and WINDOW switch. IF you're spraying and you tach out (hit the rev limiter) you will have some MAJOR problems.....
Will

Very good point!!!!!!
I just assume people have these things when they get nitrous kits but alot of people are unaware of such devices! I couldn't tell you how gratefull I am of mine.
Thanks for pointing this out. Alot of the new people to nitrous should have this in there cars.
IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE KIT!

TARZAN · 03-22-2004, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 420nitro
Very good point!!!!!!
I just assume people have these things when they get nitrous kits but alot of people are unaware of such devices! I couldn't tell you how gratefull I am of mine.
Thanks for pointing this out. Alot of the new people to nitrous should have this in there cars.
IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE KIT!

Glad I brought this up then. And we have a problem that most 5.0 owners don't face. THE PLASTIC INTAKE!!!!

It'll go in a heartbeat w/ a N2O backfire......

not to mention the heads and internal parts have been known to bite the dust

-Will

explicitone · 03-23-2004, 07:19 AM

I say 4.10s and dont look back

and I agree window switch or dont spray

420nitro · 03-23-2004, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TARZAN
Glad I brought this up then. And we have a problem that most 5.0 owners don't face. THE PLASTIC INTAKE!!!!

It'll go in a heartbeat w/ a N2O backfire......

not to mention the heads and internal parts have been known to bite the dust

-Will

Thats why I always run a NOS dry kit or a plate between the upper and lower. I don't believe they make one for the mod motors but the new fogger is what I would get. I do not favor fuel going threw the upper intake. I know that people don't like the dry kit, but I have never had problems and every car that I put the kit on...never had problems. Everytime I saw someone that messed up there motors with a dry kit..messed it up themselves! YES, IT WAS USSER ERROR!
My experance...I am sure people have seen different. Use what works for you then.
My .02

explicitone · 03-23-2004, 04:43 PM

almost all the nitrous cars I have seen blow were due to usser error in one way or another

both wet and dry can be safe if used right and the right saftey equipment is in place

420nitro · 03-23-2004, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by explicitone
almost all the nitrous cars I have seen blow were due to usser error in one way or another

both wet and dry can be safe if used right and the right saftey equipment is in place

Very true, but how many of them were from a nitrous backfire due to fuel puddling in the intake?

explicitone · 03-23-2004, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 420nitro
Very true, but how many of them were from a nitrous backfire due to fuel puddling in the intake?

I have never seem it happen when they were using a window switch(thats was working right)

xxxBlakexxx · 03-23-2004, 05:36 PM

Good point guys! Yes, I am going with the 4.10's!!! I have 4.10's on the way and my 3.73's are going back.

My chip is still missing in action. I shipped it back over a week ago to get re-burned and it has not turned up. Can you believe that? I insured it. It appears that it may have gone to an old PO Box that the company does not use anymore...they were supposed to hunt it down today, but I have not heard anything.

The Venom N02 system is probably the safest on the market. It ties directly to the TPS and constantly monitors the 02 sensor. Based on lean or rich conditions, it pulses each individual fuel injector. The system is so safe that they sometimes get complaints that it is too conservative and limits spray too often. This si NOT the right system for the experienced driver looking for SERIOUS amounts of boost. With 150 spray, I have been told to expect 75 rwhp gain.

Rev limiter - I understand what you mean...no fuel with lots of n02 is not a good thing. Especially with a driver new to N02....those rpms can climb pretty fast. I am not sure how the Venom system accounts for this, but I will certainly ask. I will not buy unless it has a built-in window switch or if one can be added or if there is some other type of saefty mechanism that does the same thing.

ac97gt · 03-30-2004, 06:35 PM

sorta on the same topic... i have heard from a frew people that its possible to go 90 in second gear in the cobras (i think 01/02 at least) whats the deal with that?

explicitone · 03-30-2004, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ac97gt
sorta on the same topic... i have heard from a frew people that its possible to go 90 in second gear in the cobras (i think 01/02 at least) whats the deal with that?

nope, sorry it wont happen

xxxBlakexxx · 04-08-2004, 10:03 PM

Jess:

I had my 4.10's installed today. Had to drive in the rain 90 miles home, but, they are amazing. What the F was I waiting for? Don't fear the gear! This is the way the car should drive. If I had to do again, I think I would go with 4.30's.

They wake the car right up. 2nd is nice from a start and then all the way past 50+ mph. It feels like I dropped a small turbo in it. Tires loose traction easier too through third. It was a pleasure on the highway.

Tomorrow should be dry and sunny. I will test the car in all gears with my g meter and I am sure I will record higher g forces in all gears especially 1 - 3.

I also got my subframes installed. The car feels brand-new. CJ Pony did the work for me in Harrisburg.

explicitone · 04-08-2004, 10:50 PM

im glad you like them

03-22-2004, 08:15 PM	#61
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	Thanks 420! Anyone else? I am really open on this issue. __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)

03-22-2004, 08:18 PM	#62
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Everyone seems to agree.. 4.10's Let me know when they're done man... gotta know how you like 'em It'll be great input coming from someone fresh off the stock gears! I wanna know how 1st gear changes for ya.. lol Make sure to post the results, please Thanks! __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-22-2004, 08:38 PM	#64
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	I'm getting some 3.73 installed in a couple of hours. Looking forward in having my speedo all fluffed up. __________________ NEW CAR! - 2002 GT TrueBlue - Best Stock ET - 13.77 Old Lizard - 2000GT Electric Green - Best ET STOCK: 13.662 @ 100.2MPH

03-22-2004, 08:48 PM	#65
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	420nitro, you crack me up. Those tires are toast! Lets hear it for $116 each for 285/40's from Tire Rack. I hope I can shift that fast....ya hoo! __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)

03-22-2004, 10:56 PM	#66
TARZAN Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philadelphia, MS Posts: 191	IF it is your first time to spray a mod motor, AND its a standard, be SURE to have a WOT and WINDOW switch. IF you're spraying and you tach out (hit the rev limiter) you will have some MAJOR problems..... BTW, if you stay N/A, 4.30's are the way to go -Will __________________ I'm just a guy who has nothing better to do, and loves his stangs. -Will

03-22-2004, 08:34 PM	#63
420nitro Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rockford Posts: 596	Oh yea....Blake When you spray it with the new gear...a bit of warning..it will climb faster (through the rpms) then if you revved it in neutral on motor! You also might hurt those pretty new tires too!

03-22-2004, 11:02 PM	#67
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	Tarzan: I am planning on using the Venom system. It has a WOT switch, but no window switch. The system is a very safe system as far as nitrous goes. __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)

03-23-2004, 07:19 AM	#71
explicitone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: racine ,wi Posts: 691	I say 4.10s and dont look back and I agree window switch or dont spray __________________ RUN IT STAIGHT AND RUN IT HARD ________ Novi 2000 60' 1.46 1/4 10.67 mph 126.5 _________

03-23-2004, 04:43 PM	#73
explicitone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: racine ,wi Posts: 691	almost all the nitrous cars I have seen blow were due to usser error in one way or another both wet and dry can be safe if used right and the right saftey equipment is in place __________________ RUN IT STAIGHT AND RUN IT HARD ________ Novi 2000 60' 1.46 1/4 10.67 mph 126.5 _________

03-23-2004, 05:36 PM	#76
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	Good point guys! Yes, I am going with the 4.10's!!! I have 4.10's on the way and my 3.73's are going back. My chip is still missing in action. I shipped it back over a week ago to get re-burned and it has not turned up. Can you believe that? I insured it. It appears that it may have gone to an old PO Box that the company does not use anymore...they were supposed to hunt it down today, but I have not heard anything. The Venom N02 system is probably the safest on the market. It ties directly to the TPS and constantly monitors the 02 sensor. Based on lean or rich conditions, it pulses each individual fuel injector. The system is so safe that they sometimes get complaints that it is too conservative and limits spray too often. This si NOT the right system for the experienced driver looking for SERIOUS amounts of boost. With 150 spray, I have been told to expect 75 rwhp gain. Rev limiter - I understand what you mean...no fuel with lots of n02 is not a good thing. Especially with a driver new to N02....those rpms can climb pretty fast. I am not sure how the Venom system accounts for this, but I will certainly ask. I will not buy unless it has a built-in window switch or if one can be added or if there is some other type of saefty mechanism that does the same thing. __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)

03-30-2004, 06:35 PM	#77
ac97gt Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia (DC) Posts: 232	sorta on the same topic... i have heard from a frew people that its possible to go 90 in second gear in the cobras (i think 01/02 at least) whats the deal with that? __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "Pacific Green" Flowmasters Bassani X w/cats Steeda Triax K&N and Air Intake Silencer Removed More to come with money! My Ride

04-08-2004, 10:03 PM	#79
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	Jess: I had my 4.10's installed today. Had to drive in the rain 90 miles home, but, they are amazing. What the F was I waiting for? Don't fear the gear! This is the way the car should drive. If I had to do again, I think I would go with 4.30's. They wake the car right up. 2nd is nice from a start and then all the way past 50+ mph. It feels like I dropped a small turbo in it. Tires loose traction easier too through third. It was a pleasure on the highway. Tomorrow should be dry and sunny. I will test the car in all gears with my g meter and I am sure I will record higher g forces in all gears especially 1 - 3. I also got my subframes installed. The car feels brand-new. CJ Pony did the work for me in Harrisburg. __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)

04-08-2004, 10:50 PM	#80
explicitone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: racine ,wi Posts: 691	im glad you like them __________________ RUN IT STAIGHT AND RUN IT HARD ________ Novi 2000 60' 1.46 1/4 10.67 mph 126.5 _________

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