4cyl clutch pedal vs 5.0 pedal?

WADS56 · 02-04-2002, 12:43 AM

I am having a problem with my clutch I think. When I shift through the gears it will grind, but if I push in the clutch and wait for a few seconds it will shift fine.
I put the car up on jackstands and had a friend push the clutch to the floor when it was running while I was under the car. I could see the clutch disk, and it took a few seconds to stop spinning when he pushed the pedal. Is this normal or should it stop right away? If not that would explain my grinding problem. I talked to the people who did my trans and they said my clutch is not disengaging all the way. They assured me that it is not the trans.
I have a proshifted TKO II, with a Ram 900 11" longstyle clutch and pressure plate, a Ram throughout bearing, a lakewood bellhousing, and a adj pivot ball. The clutch pedal that I am using is the origanal one from my 79 4 cilinder.
The 4 cilinder pedal dosn't have a quadrent of any type on it, the cable conects to the pedal directly. I guess what I am asking is... will the 4 cyl pedal, and the 5.0 pedal pull the cable the same distance when the pedal is down to the floor? The reason I ask is because I have checked everething that there is to check and this is the only thing that I can think of.
Please help this is driving me nuts!

LX XLR8R · 02-04-2002, 09:39 AM

tighten up you adjustable cable..where does the clutch feel like its picking up..i know newer style 4cly clutches work..but they have paw and quadrent..all the adj paw and quandentrs say they work with 79-93 mustangs so i would imagin that yours is no diffrent and has the same amount of pull...if you dont have an adjustable cable then get one

whiterod · 02-04-2002, 03:34 PM

i used a 4 cylinder pedal assembly when i converted to a 5 speed and it did come with a plastic quadrant, but i quickly removed it and installed an adjustable one. it does work good though with no problems

andy669 · 02-04-2002, 05:46 PM

I thought some of the early 4 banger cars came with adjustable cables which means that the self-adjusting quadrant on the pedal was eliminated. I would assume that your cable has stretched.

I'd suggest getting an aluminum quadrant, firewall adjuster, and stock cable. Your clutch fork geometry is another thing to check too. On my Mcleod scattershield the cable was rubbing on the opening. A .155 thick washer under the ball-stud set everything straight.

andy

WADS56 · 02-05-2002, 12:20 AM

I bought a new cable (4cyl), quadrent, and a firewall adjuster. The quadrent would not fit the pedal because the holes do not line up

.

andy669, I had the same problem with the cable rubbing on the bellhousing but I took care of that.

I have the cable adjusted so there is very little freeplay hopeing the clutch will disengage all the way. I am lost here.

WADS56 · 02-05-2002, 02:27 AM

Now that I think about it this is my first proshifted trans. Maybe it shifts like this because there is no syncros. It shifts into gear but it sounds like the gears are crashing into each other. I took it to the track once and it shifted through the gears way better then my 3550 did with syncros, but it is just violent sounding. Has anyone ever driven in a car with a proshifted trans before? If so what was it like?

02-04-2002, 12:43 AM	#1
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	4cyl clutch pedal vs 5.0 pedal? I am having a problem with my clutch I think. When I shift through the gears it will grind, but if I push in the clutch and wait for a few seconds it will shift fine. I put the car up on jackstands and had a friend push the clutch to the floor when it was running while I was under the car. I could see the clutch disk, and it took a few seconds to stop spinning when he pushed the pedal. Is this normal or should it stop right away? If not that would explain my grinding problem. I talked to the people who did my trans and they said my clutch is not disengaging all the way. They assured me that it is not the trans. I have a proshifted TKO II, with a Ram 900 11" longstyle clutch and pressure plate, a Ram throughout bearing, a lakewood bellhousing, and a adj pivot ball. The clutch pedal that I am using is the origanal one from my 79 4 cilinder. The 4 cilinder pedal dosn't have a quadrent of any type on it, the cable conects to the pedal directly. I guess what I am asking is... will the 4 cyl pedal, and the 5.0 pedal pull the cable the same distance when the pedal is down to the floor? The reason I ask is because I have checked everething that there is to check and this is the only thing that I can think of. Please help this is driving me nuts! __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

02-04-2002, 09:39 AM	#2
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	tighten up you adjustable cable..where does the clutch feel like its picking up..i know newer style 4cly clutches work..but they have paw and quadrent..all the adj paw and quandentrs say they work with 79-93 mustangs so i would imagin that yours is no diffrent and has the same amount of pull...if you dont have an adjustable cable then get one __________________ 95 undecided cubes, AFR 185s,undecided cam, undecided intake, and a 150 hit 89 "turbonotch" 2.3T You might want to hold on..i saw this on a cartoon once

02-04-2002, 03:34 PM	#3
whiterod Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: zachary, la Posts: 73	i used a 4 cylinder pedal assembly when i converted to a 5 speed and it did come with a plastic quadrant, but i quickly removed it and installed an adjustable one. it does work good though with no problems __________________ GT-40X(58cc)heads, cobra upper&lower, FMS 65mm TB, 75mm Bullet, 24# injectors, 190 lph fuel pump, moroso cold air intake, BBK 1 5/8 equal length headers, flowmaster cat back, 1.7 cobra rockers, crane 2031, T5Z gear box, centerforce dual friction, mcleod bullet proof bellhousing, 3.55 gears, hurst billet shifter with over 193,000 miles. thanks to all who contributed

02-04-2002, 05:46 PM	#4
andy669 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Moline Il Posts: 901	I thought some of the early 4 banger cars came with adjustable cables which means that the self-adjusting quadrant on the pedal was eliminated. I would assume that your cable has stretched. I'd suggest getting an aluminum quadrant, firewall adjuster, and stock cable. Your clutch fork geometry is another thing to check too. On my Mcleod scattershield the cable was rubbing on the opening. A .155 thick washer under the ball-stud set everything straight. andy __________________ 88 coupe 91 LX NMRA Pure Street 5120

02-05-2002, 12:20 AM	#5
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	I bought a new cable (4cyl), quadrent, and a firewall adjuster. The quadrent would not fit the pedal because the holes do not line up . andy669, I had the same problem with the cable rubbing on the bellhousing but I took care of that. I have the cable adjusted so there is very little freeplay hopeing the clutch will disengage all the way. I am lost here. __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

02-05-2002, 02:27 AM	#6
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	Now that I think about it this is my first proshifted trans. Maybe it shifts like this because there is no syncros. It shifts into gear but it sounds like the gears are crashing into each other. I took it to the track once and it shifted through the gears way better then my 3550 did with syncros, but it is just violent sounding. Has anyone ever driven in a car with a proshifted trans before? If so what was it like? __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

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