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02-14-2001, 03:25 PM | #1 |
Dirk Diggler
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stang vs turbo Si
well my buddy picks me up from work and we go out to lunch..he has his freinds'00 Si with a turbo he put in the day b4..the thing is still not in tune yet and we were only running 10#'s but this things is freakin out..also we are running right off the downpipe so you can really here the turbo spool up and it sounds awsome
so we found a healthy notchback to race and even though we never both got a clean and even start we would rell him in everytime...the kid in the notch slows down and asks how many pounds were running and we tell him 8# cuz he lied and said his car was stock at first then he said he has a blower on it but the belt is off..but i think i bought headers off the kid b4 so i know him and his stangs arnt stock at all..so end of story we couldnt consider it a kill cuz of the traffic but we were faster than it ------------------ 1987 black notch(ex 4 banger) DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one.. |
02-14-2001, 03:49 PM | #2 |
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Tune that civic up and race it against your stang. Then tell us how fast that civic is. (You better not lose )
------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors |
02-14-2001, 04:53 PM | #3 |
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I ran a Civic with a turbo, etc.. and walked him pretty hard. All cars run different though!
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02-14-2001, 05:27 PM | #4 |
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My buddies turbo Si (99) with 8psi ran a 14.7-14.8@100-101 thing can't hook to save its life. The car is still in the process of being tuned also
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02-14-2001, 06:21 PM | #5 |
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sedan man I feel sorry for your friend. After putting so much work of installing a turbo and it only nocking about a second. I think once it's tuned it'll run way better. My friends civic hatchback ran a 12.7 he's running a little of the giggle bottle 70 shot and has a japanese engine dont know anything else he as in there. Not much a rice person
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02-15-2001, 02:17 AM | #6 | |
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02-15-2001, 10:35 AM | #7 |
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Putting on a huge turbo and running with the stock stangs.. hehe Hey EXGMGUY, your cars not exactly stock, I hope you're mopping up civics
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02-15-2001, 05:35 PM | #8 |
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100-101mph in a 2500lb Civic is good for mid 13's w/ traction. He doesn't need that thing tuned, just some Nitto DR's on a 15" rim. I know the Civic's also get some bad wheel hop and I have heard by putting on some good engine and transmision mounts it helps alot (not sure if its true, just what I've heard.)
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02-15-2001, 10:26 PM | #9 |
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He already put the motormounts on it and it stopped the wheel hop now the thing just burn the sh*t out of the tires. He is currently looking at getting some DR's and is hoping to try a few more tricks and get him into the 13's
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02-16-2001, 11:35 AM | #10 |
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Just curious - Exactly how long does a stock transaxel and half shafts last on these front drive turbo things, when launching with some rpm's on sticky tires??
I can hear the sound of snapping metal all the back here in CT. ------------------ 1965 K code coupe - numbers matching - restoration ongoing. 1987 LX notch, stock heads and intake, 3.55's and typical bolt on's 13.89@100.25 |
02-16-2001, 12:17 PM | #11 |
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The stock axles can easily take up to 400hp but after that, you are on borrowed time unless you get aftermarket axles. A Viper or a Cobra R on sticky tires can break axles stock. Wouldn't you rather have done work to your car and have to worry about broken axles than to have a new, factory car you just bought and be afraid to run it on slicks from fear your factory axles will snap?
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02-16-2001, 12:32 PM | #12 | |
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02-16-2001, 02:58 PM | #13 | |
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02-16-2001, 03:38 PM | #14 |
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A Civic's transaxel, half shafts and cv joints can handle 400hp? Obviously are much stronger then they look.
------------------ 1965 K code coupe - numbers matching - restoration ongoing. 1987 LX notch, stock heads and intake, 3.55's and typical bolt on's 13.89@100.25 |
02-17-2001, 03:05 AM | #15 | |
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02-17-2001, 01:53 PM | #16 |
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That wasn't the point. $130 is still more than $0, plus labor if you cannot do it yourself.
Maybe if the vehicle dynamics of front wheel drive were better, the tires would stick a lot harder and get the same weight transfer as a rearwheel drive car, but that simply isn't the case. A 300hp Fwd car and a 300hp Rwd car are going to put far different loads on the axles. The Rwd drive car will have much better weight transfer and therefore a higher amount of stress on the axles! Engineering is great! ------------------ 1991 GT, AOD, Moroso Cold Air, 3.73s, March pulleys, 3-chamber(the left one fell off-NO time+No Money=College), FMS c-springs, and KYBs |
02-17-2001, 04:58 PM | #17 |
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Yeah but ENGINEERING is supposed to Hondas strongpoint! lol
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02-17-2001, 06:48 PM | #18 |
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Yup, there is a limit, by the Laws of Physics, as to how fast a FWD car can go. I believe that the world record for FWD is 8.7 seconds, so don't let those little rice-bitches tell you other wise. There are civics and others that have made faster passes, but they change the cars from FWD to RWD and often put the engine in the back too.....seems like a BIG waste of money to me, when you can do a LOT less work on American car, and go a LOT faster for a LOT less $$$.
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02-17-2001, 06:51 PM | #19 |
GOT TORQUE ????
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Actually its Physics that makes that happen(weight transfer), but I said Engineering is great because that is where I learned the basic Dynamics of Front and Rear wheel drive cars.
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02-17-2001, 06:54 PM | #20 |
GOT TORQUE ????
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Dinomite beat me to responding to Fastang's comment. I have to learn how to type faster.
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